#meta 2022-10-30

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[tantek] yeah they're a distributed tech spammer that essentially keeps repeating themselves and doesn't have their own site
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[tantek] !spam @DecentralEvery
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[tantek] !block @DecentralEvery
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Loqi Okay, I blocked "DecentralEvery" from all IndieWeb Twitter searches
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[tantek] huh
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@molly0xFFF ↩️ you can also follow @web3isgreat on fedi at https://indieweb.social/@web3isgreat (twitter.com/_/status/1586514296976117760)
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@katerroberts Hoping it won’t be necessary but getting properly set up on mastodon after leaving the account sitting for a bit @krra@indieweb.social if anyone else is over there (twitter.com/_/status/1586531710564302848)
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@davemillar ↩️ Owning your own content is easier than you think! Go to https://indieweb.org to learn more. Embrace your local nerds. Buy a domain name and hosting if you can afford to. #indieweb #freespeech (twitter.com/_/status/1586545368581513222)
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@dozymoe ↩️ Do I have to open two tabs (mastodon and indieweb) or is there an aggregator? (twitter.com/_/status/1586599964527890433)
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[snarfed] there's an indieweb tab you all have been hiding from me all this time?!
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@sebaker ↩️ I’m @sebaker@indieweb.social on Mastodon fwiw … enough Cory Doctorow content there to keep me diverted (twitter.com/_/status/1586726355068239876)
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@randulo ↩️ I just fllowed you from http://indieweb.social (twitter.com/_/status/1586771269114122240)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Sounds a lot like the social reader model https://indieweb.org/social_reader (twitter.com/_/status/1586786206964240384)
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[tantek] ^ interesting way to show public replies to friends-only tweets
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jmtd.net about edited /comments (-102) "rm comments.network - dead site, domain parking page" (view diff)
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@JuurdEijsvoogel Afgelopen maanden was het lekker rustig op Mastodon, mijn volger en ik hielden elkaar eigenlijk nooit van het werk. Maar misschien is wat meer leven in de brouwerij toch ook wel aardig, ik zit daar als @juurd@indieweb.social (twitter.com/_/status/1586824436740759561)
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@ttaskett ↩️ She is @web3isgreat@indieweb.social You might like other peeps in my follow list: https://mastodon.social/@tasket/following ...which includes Matt Green, Micah Lee, Lesley Carhart, Naomi Wu (twitter.com/_/status/1586841298413158400)
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[tantek] !tell [timothy_chambe] now that I have @/tantek.com@/tantek.com working (without the slashes obv), do I qualify for the "IndieWeb Voices" list on https://indieweb.social/about/more 👀?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com uploaded /File:2022-10-28-mastodon-follow-tantekcom.png "Screenshot by aaronpk, permission given in chat to upload https://indieweb.org/File:2022-10-28-mastodon-follow-tantekcom.png"
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vanderven.se martijn edited /JSON (+1783) "/* See Also */ Add SPA JSON, a "relaxed JSON variant" with no documentation ?! One of these days this rabbit hole will absorb me whole." (view diff)
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[tantek] lol that's quite the See Also
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@joindiaspora ↩️ An even smaller group of people is interconnecting their personal websites and blogs using a bunch of protocols like Webmention (see https://indieweb.org/Webmention). They aren't "compatible" with either diaspora* or Mastodon, and they're still all really cool projects. (twitter.com/_/status/1586863067161587712)
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barnaby huh
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barnaby I wonder who’s tweeting from @joindiaspora
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[denschub] (me)
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[denschub] (partially. that post was me.)
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barnaby oh cool, good to know, hi [denschub]!
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[denschub] I occasionally get a bit tired about people acting like “everything has to talk to everything” is the only right thing to do
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[tantek] [denschub]++ :pleading_face:
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Loqi [denschub] has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] plurality++
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Loqi plurality has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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barnaby I must admit that if what you tweeted is the official line, I’m surprised that there isn’t more interest in getting some degree of interop between diaspora and mastodon working, as (I assume?) the two largest federated social projects
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barnaby but I can imagine there are plenty of difficulties, especially if partial interoperability isn’t viable
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[tantek] [denschub] the exception is that there are bridges! E.g. https://fed.brid.gy/
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[tantek] barnaby, I think a good first "proof of concept" step is the building of bridges, before trying to get protocol level interop
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[tantek] bridges can help shakeout the UX issues which are often the key thing to solve
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[tantek] e.g. this could use some contributions: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/7
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Loqi [snarfed] #7 support Diaspora
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barnaby sure, and using a bridge comes with the expectation that some things might not work perfectly, rather than building incomplete support into the existing UX and having loose ends
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[tantek] "the expectation that some things might not work perfectly" <- this is the expectation for most protocol interop work too!
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[tantek] barnaby, the point is the with a bridge, you get *something* working much faster than agonizing over years of protocol debates before you can even post a "hello world" from one system to the other
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[tantek] point is that* with a bridge
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barnaby oh absolutely, I’m entirely in favour of bridges
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[denschub] partial interoperability is fine for nerds. diaspora has a lot of users who use diaspora because they don’t want to care about tech. diaspora also has lots of users who once used mastodon or friendica or whatever and came back to diaspora, not because diaspora has lots of flashy features or has a super large audience, but because we try our best to make sure that the stuff we offer actually works.
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[denschub] i’ve talked to a lot of our users who said that they actively disliked mastodon because they ran into interop issues several times and they just stopped using it because not having confidence in your messages arriving at their target ruined the fun for them