#meta 2022-12-13

2022-12-13 UTC
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/SF/webactions (-24) "direct wiki links, typo fix" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /webactions (+146) "/* Sessions */ reverse chronlogical, some cleanup" (view diff)
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gRegor On https://indieweb.org/webactions#Sessions "2011-09-18 WordCampPDX" do we have a link for presentation or notes?
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gregorlove.com edited /webactions (+52) "/* Sessions */ switch archived lanyrd.com link" (view diff)
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gRegor Props to them for keeping this site online so long: https://portland.wordcamp.org/2011/attendees/
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[tantek] what happened to all the W3C stage banners on webmention, micropub etc.? (but still on the top of e.g. /ActivityPub) I can't see where they were removed so I'm going to add them back in
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[tantek] if we decided when to remove such things, the reasons why should be documented somewhere ( /wikify at least) - i.e. when to add or remove or change such a banner
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tantek.com edited /Micropub (+26) "add W3C REC SVG banner back (when did it disappear? and why?)" (view diff)
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aaronpk didn't they get moved to the spec pages?
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aaronpk trying to make the main pages more user friendly, which the spec progress is really not that relevant to
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tantek.com edited /Webmention (+165) "add W3C REC SVG banner back (when did it disappear? and why?), note W3C REC in dfn like Micropub, move blockquote to why" (view diff)
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aaronpk hmm it was schmarty! https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Webmention&diff=56667&oldid=56559
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tantek.com edited /Micropub (+8) "dfn copy edit" (view diff)
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aaronpk chat log, no context https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2019-02-11#t1549925350890800
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tantek.com edited /WebSub (+187) "add W3C REC SVG banner back (when did it disappear? and why?), note W3C REC in dfn like Micropub, link SocialWG, copy edit dfn, move previously to end" (view diff)
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aaronpk WebSub was removed by [tantek] https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=WebSub&diff=56857&oldid=54270
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aaronpk similar timeframe
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tantek.com edited /ActivityPub (+414) "add AP logo, published & latest draft links" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_Share_API (+365) "W3C CR graphic, latest published & draft links, see webactions for specific user actions IndieWeb Examples stub," (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_Share_API (+148) "w3c logo like other w3c specs" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_Share_API (-18) "rm neg m-t" (view diff)
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[tantek] since we have other pages of W3C specs in progress now (e.g. Web Share), I think it makes sense to have a consistent progress banner across them
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[tantek] also the audience for W3C specs should be presumed to be primarily web developers
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tantek.com edited /WebSub (-18) "rm neg m-t" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micropub (-18) "rm neg m-t" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Webmention (-18) "rm neg m-t" (view diff)
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[tantek] [aaronpk] I have no recollection of why we removed them at the time. Maybe because we thought we were "done" and there was no longer any reason to indicate "progress"? [schmarty] do you have any recollection of our reasoning? or was it just "clean-up"?
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tantek.com edited /ActivityPub (-18) "rm neg m-t" (view diff)
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[tantek] we really need a separate page for AS2 since it's an actual W3C REC
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[schmarty] Yeah I dont recall the reasoning for this. Hopefully logged in Megan
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[schmarty] Ugh, typing while walking. In *meta
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[tantek] if anyone who is interested in ActivityPub / ActivityStreams wants to help out here, we could use a drafting of an actual "Activity Streams 2.0" sub page similar to /ActivityPub, and you can likely borrow some content from /ActivityStreams
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[tantek] what is Activity Streams 2.0
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Activity Streams 2.0" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Activity Streams 2.0 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] lol ok then
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[tantek] Activity Streams 2.0 is (AKA <dfn>Activity Streams Core</dfn>) an open web standard ([[W3C]] Recommendation) and format for communicating a series of user activities across websites, based on prior [[ActivityStreams]] community proposals & specifications. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-core/
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Activity_Streams_2.0 (+327) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] there you go, new page for the day
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Loqi [preview] [James M Snell] Activity Streams 2.0
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[tantek] jack, [benatwork] I feel you two may be interested in helping flesh out that page
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tantek.com edited /AS2 (+5) "update redirect" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Activity_Streams_2.0 (+330) "add w3c logo, REC SVG, links to published & latest, see also" (view diff)
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[tantek] ActivityStreams << Activity Streams 2.0
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Activity Streams 2.0]]" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityStreams https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=85011&oldid=84913
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tantek.com edited /Activity_Streams_2.0 (+733) "software support, move a few AS2 specific links here from the AS page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /ActivityStreams () "(-550) move a few specific see alsos to AS2 page, move a few see alsos to history/origins, simplify See Also section" (view diff)
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[tantek] both /AS and /AS2 could use some more work & clean-up, but that's a start ^
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tantek.com edited /Activity_Streams_2.0 (+54) "developed in SocialWG" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Social_Web_Working_Group (+31) "link to separate spec pages for AS2/AV" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Social_Web_Working_Group (+132) "w3c logo" (view diff)
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[jacky] is there more we can add to https://indieweb.org/link_rel_parser?
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[jacky] like the registry of rel values? or should it link to the page on the mf wiki?
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[jacky] is asking b/c I'm cleaning up some libraries and want to point to the right place
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jacky.wtf edited /link_rel_parser (+78) "/* See Also */ add rust to list, combine JS options" (view diff)
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[jacky] what is rel=link
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rel=link" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rel=link is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jacky] well technically, that's not a thing
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[jacky] eh
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gRegor yeah I would link to https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values
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[jacky] also interesting find of https://microformats.org/wiki/rel-directory
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[jacky] would that be a way to do the inverse of something like news.indieweb.org or indieweb.xyz?
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gRegor I think it's more when you're linked to from a directory like https://indieseek.xyz/, vs syndicating your post to somewhere like those.
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Loqi [preview] Home
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[tantek] the registry should have nothing to do with the parsing algorithm
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[tantek] or parsing libraries for it
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[tantek] jacky, not sure that "inverse of" is a good way to reason about it
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[tantek] from the spec: "a page indicates that the destination of the hyperlink is a directory listing containing an entry for the current page."
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[tantek] if that's not clear, ask questions about it and we can attempt to improve it accordingly
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tantek.com edited /link_rel_parser (+58) "move libraries to examples, see also disco algos" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discovery-algorithms (+25) "/* Link rel discovery */ main" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /discovery_algorithm (+34) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /link_rel_parser (+121) "dfn copy edit from other section" (view diff)
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[tantek] jacky, gRegor, probably worth comparing https://indieweb.org/discovery-algorithms#Link_rel_discovery vs https://indieweb.org/link_rel_parser and coming up with a canonical update merging information from both of those sections.
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[tantek] for https://indieweb.org/discovery-algorithms#Link_rel_discovery in particular, it would be ok to link to only one for each language
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[tantek] and leave the thorough "list of all libraries for all languages" on the https://indieweb.org/link_rel_parser page
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tantek.com edited /Activity_Streams_2.0 (+84) "software OSS, Service support" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Web_Share_API (+25) "profile or home page" (view diff)
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[jacky] good point
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tantek.com edited /2022-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+35) "stubbed a new Activity Streams 2.0 page for today" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /AS_2.0 (+34) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2022-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+49) "abbr" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf edited /Micropub-extensions (-1) "/* Pagination */ fixed linking" (view diff)