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Loqi [[Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking&diff=1163279581&oldid=prev P37307: /* Projects */ added updated Misskey stats, removed dead source
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omz13.com edited /pop-up (+11) "/* Interest */" (view diff)
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omz13 tantek, for "figuring out a process for reviewing Micropub extensions for level of implementation support" I think this should be extended a bit, not just for Micropub but for the IndieWeb specs and how they are treated, i.e. a (emphasis on singular) way to discover a spec, its extensions, and implementations, and ancillary information. At the moment it feels like there is no one place where you can go to get a list of all the specs, and for
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omz13 each the requisite information.
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omz13 At present there's information scattershot across the specifications, buried in GitHub issues, in GitHub PRs, in the Wiki, in IRC, etc. A bit of a reorganization is needed (even it is simply signposting to where things are at).
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[tantek] omz13 the specs are listed at http://spec.indieweb.org, and then each spec has a header which links to its requisite information. If some of that info is missing from a spec's header, please file a GH issue on that spec
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omz13 [tantek] thanks for the link... that's new to me... but standards live on a spec subdomain, which is inconsistent; and also in the wiki standards is the NPT for specifications, which itself don't link to that subdomain; and that subdomain is anyway not easily signposted (how about at least adding it to the sidebar in the wiki). And, the links on the spec subdomain are to a mixture of the underlying spec, or a page in the wiki, so again,
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omz13 inconsistent.
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[tantek] Sidebar link to spec.indieweb is a very good suggestion
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[tantek] The latter point is not really true. Links from spec.indieweb are always to a specification.
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[tantek] Whether that spec lives on GitHub or the indieweb or microformats wiki or http://w3.org or some other domain is mostly historical. web standards living in different domains, with different CSS is a reality. That doesn't make them semantically inconsistent
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[tantek] to-do << add a link to spec.indieweb to the [[Sidebar]]
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Loqi ok, I added "add a link to spec.indieweb to the [[Sidebar]]" to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=88535&oldid=88460
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[tantek] Standards living on or linked from a spec.etc subdomain is a patter adopted from WHATWG. See for example the HTML and URL standards
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[tantek] pattern*
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omz13 If the link is to a wiki page, rather than a specification, its more of a draft specification that something more concrete, and I think that's a distinction worth noting (lifecycle status being mildly interesting).
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omz13 sidebar++
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Loqi sidebar has 1 karma over the last year
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omz13 historical reasons has a lot to answer for; that doesn't mean a bit of gardening/tidying up can't be done. e.g. the microformats site itself does't make it clear who the "owner" is (IndieWeb, W3C, etc.) or how the spec is managed/changed (on the wiki? GitHub?)
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bkil [schmarty] sknebel (2023-07-03T15:31:34) Thanks for the info. If you ran Matterbridge instead of your own bot, it could relay between IRC, Matrix, Slack and Discord by itself at the same time. You don't need to run your own Matrix HS for this, only this single light go executable running as a daemon service. But I'd wait a bit for the response of EMS, as they might operate such a public relay bot in response. https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
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Loqi [preview] [42wim] matterbridge: bridge between mattermost, IRC, gitter, xmpp, slack, discord, telegram, rocketchat, twitch, ssh-chat, zulip, whatsapp, keybase, matrix, microsoft teams, nextcloud, mumble, vk and more with REST API (mattermost not required!)
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c​apjamesg We should have that link in the sidebar.
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c​apjamesg It took me a long time to learn we had a subdomain on which standards are listed.
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sarajaksa.eu edited /indieweb-carnival (+118) "Adding the roundup post for June" (view diff)
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