#meta 2023-12-18

2023-12-18 UTC
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beesbuzz.biz
created /Bandcrash (+2322) "Created page about Bandcrash"
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[tantek]
We are chatting about providing guidance to explicitly make IndieWebCamps dry events. Do folks have opinions one way or the other?
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[tantek]
There's not (really?)) any alcohol at IWC events in general anyway. This is more about communicating that up front and setting expectations, creating more safety for more people
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[tantek]
And then maybe providing guidance about how to organize (or not) pre-camp or post-camp gatherings
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gregorlove.com
edited /December (+106) "SF 2015 and 2019 examples"
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gRegor
what is indieweb rocks
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb rocks" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieweb rocks is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor
what is indieweb.rocks
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb.rocks" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieweb.rocks is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor
Huh I thought there was a page
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gregorlove.com
created /2023/SD/Demos (+5264) "archive from chat"
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gRegor
!tell angelo want to set up the wiki page https://indieweb.org/indieweb.rocks ?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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www.ciccarello.me
edited /2023/SD/Demos (+57) "/* Anthony Ciccarello */ add issue link"
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[tantek]
IWC SD went by so quickly! And still have lots of tabs open to go through, do something about them
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www.svenknebel.de
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boffosocko.com
edited /IndieNews (+94) "see also; linky"
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boffosocko.com
edited /2023-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+349) "IndieWebCamp San Diego; typecast page; linky; gift for 25th (create day); removed extra set of ''' for proper bolding of dates;"
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich]++ oh yes, lots of updating to do for the Gift Calendar! Thanks for the reminder
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Loqi
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[chrisaldrich]
You know it's a good camp when you have more tabs open at the end than when you started. Now we can spend the holidays reading, documenting, and closing all those tabs before the newww year. 📑
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[tantek]
lol so many new tabs open after IWC
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tantek.com
edited /browser_extension (+30) "separate links for devs / history"
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loqi.me
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loqi.me
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gRegor
[tantek], I'm guessing the from: community gifts sat/sun were IWC SD?
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capjamesg
What is slim?
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Loqi
Slim is a lightweight PHP framework for developing web applications and is used by several IndieWeb services and projects https://indieweb.org/Slim
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gRegor
Much more overcast day in SD so far, glad the weather was great this weekend!
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GWG
Sunny here, but I'm still feeling tired from the overnight
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[tw2113]
I like Slim, but i haven’t touched it in years
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[Joe_Crawford]
San Diego has weather: rain specifically headed our way. Gotta get in the ocean before it starts.
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gRegor
[tw2113], I dig it, use it on a few work projects in addition to indiebookclub. v4 support for php-di is quite nice.
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[Joe_Crawford]
Also plans for our flight were scuttled after the people we were going to go quick to visit both tested + for Covid.
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gRegor
😬 oh no! hope they recover quickly
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boffosocko.com
edited /typecast (+426) "potential issues with replies (and webmentions)"
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[Joe_Crawford]
me too :crossed_fingers:
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capjamesg
Hope they get well soon!
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[tw2113]
I even still have an older shirt with their elephant on it, if I recall right
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[tw2113]
anyways, i’m off topic for meta
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gRegor
what is OCR
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Loqi
OCR or optical character recognition is the way in which technology can recognize individual characters and words that are written out or present in a physical document https://indieweb.org/OCR
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gRegor
what is Google Docs
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Loqi
Google Docs is a free and fairly user-friendly document creating, collaborative editing, and sharing silo from Google that sometimes fails inexplicably https://indieweb.org/Google_Docs
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gRegor
[chrisaldrich], I'm interested in the steps with Docs to OCR the photos, do you have a post describing the steps?
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://artlung.com/blog/2023/12/17/handwriting-to-my-website/" to the "See Also" section of /handwriting https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=91427&oldid=84933
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Loqi
[preview] [Chris Aldrich] Typecasting with IndieWeb Building Blocks      #blogging #IndieWebCampSanDiego #typecasts #typewritershttps://boffosocko.com/2023/12/17/typecasting-with-indieweb-building-blocks/ https://i0.wp.com/boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/wp-1702846219602330492002970121503.jpg?fit=1912%2C2000&ssl=1
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gRegor
Cool, I'll try it out
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[Joe_Crawford]
I was doing some playing with it, and the OCR in Google Docs involves opening an uploaded photo _as Google Doc._ And I started a bit last night with IFTTT with adding Google Drive and Google Docs permissions and a folder it can watch but I don't have all the steps.
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[chrisaldrich]
broadly any photo opened in Google Docs will automatically do OCR on the photo and include the text into the document. I then use IFTTT to create a micropub post to my website described here: https://boffosocko.com/2020/01/21/using-ifttt-to-syndicate-pesos-content-from-social-services-to-wordpress-using-micropub/ (this is probably the most involved step, which might be solved in other ways).
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gRegor
Yep, was just reading https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692 which says to right click the image in Drive and open as a Google Doc
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[Joe_Crawford]
I think in theory once created the whole thing can be turned into a recipe others can use too - and configure using a folder to watch and an endpoint to post a draft to. That may exist but I was more playing last night
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[Joe_Crawford]
Well there it ius
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Loqi
[preview] [Chris Aldrich] Using IFTTT to syndicate (PESOS) content from social services to WordPress using MicropubIntroductionWhat follows may tend toward the jargon-y end of programming, but I’ll endeavor to explain it all and go step-by-step to allow those with little or... https://i0.wp.com/boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/IFTTTMicropub-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C600&ssl=1
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gRegor
That's the step I wasn't sure on
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[chrisaldrich]
I think I'm using variations of that IFTTT set up to watch a dozen services now (many via RSS) to port data posted elsewhere back to my own website so that I own archived copies of all of it. It's been incredibly useful.
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich] I'm also curious if a fully mobile solution would work, since most mobile OSs have built-in OCR of photos and ability to select the text there!
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[tantek]
(without having to share the information with Google Docs)
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[chrisaldrich]
I've always thought that social silos micropub PESOS as a Service would be a great IndieWeb tool for someone to build. You could take RSS feeds from someone's social media sites, suck in the relevant data, massage it a bit and push back Micropub posts to their personal site (with authentication) to allow them to use almost any social posting service a s micropub client for their site.
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[chrisaldrich]
tantek, I haven't looked closely at some of the options on Android in a while, but many have mentioned that iOS has some really good OCR for photos that could be used to jump a few steps (and skip over Google, which I'd like to do myself).
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[chrisaldrich]
It's likely that one could do photo -> OCR -> share functionality into a mobile micropub client -> post on you site pretty quickly too.
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gregorlove.com
edited /OCR (+486) "How To section, OCR using Google Docs"
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[tantek]
exactly that
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gRegor
Yeah, I'm curious about Android. I'll try to do some experiments.
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capjamesg
GPT-4 with Vision is good at OCR.
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capjamesg
Including handwriting OCR.
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gRegor
If I don't want Google in the loop, I definitely don't want GPT-4 in the loop :)
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[tantek]
capjamesg, not sure sending to OpenAI is any better (worse?) than sending to Google Docs
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gRegor
(this is getting more dev)
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[tantek]
lol gRegor++
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Loqi
gRegor has 35 karma in this channel over the last year (87 in all channels)
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capjamesg
And to #dev I venture.
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capjamesg
goes back in his Pokéball.
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gregorlove.com
edited /Google_Drive (+192) "OCR feature, note in dfn for more relevance"
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gRegor
what is google drive
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Loqi
Google Drive is a file storage service from Google that has also been used for its OCR support by some IndieWeb community members https://indieweb.org/Google_Drive
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gRegor
oops, that should probably be on Docs
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gRegor
what is google docs
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Loqi
Google Docs is a free and fairly user-friendly document creating, collaborative editing, and sharing silo from Google that sometimes fails inexplicably https://indieweb.org/Google_Docs
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gregorlove.com
edited /Google_Docs (+162) "mv OCR feature from Drive, dfn"
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gRegor
what is google docs
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Loqi
Google Docs is a free and fairly user-friendly document creating, collaborative editing, and sharing silo from Google that has also been used for its OCR support by some IndieWeb community members https://indieweb.org/Google_Docs
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gRegor
what is typecast
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Loqi
Typecast is a method for syndicating/broadcasting content to the internet by posting to one's personal website by typing up a post using a typewriter https://indieweb.org/typecast
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gRegor
what is typecasting
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Loqi
Typecast is a method for syndicating/broadcasting content to the internet by posting to one's personal website by typing up a post using a typewriter https://indieweb.org/typecasting
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gRegor
what is typosphere
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Loqi
Typecast is a method for syndicating/broadcasting content to the internet by posting to one's personal website by typing up a post using a typewriter https://indieweb.org/typosphere
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gRegor
well done [chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich] has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (14 in all channels)
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capjamesg
typosphere sounds like a sphere of typos.
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gRegor
typospere
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sknebel
careful, you might get typecast as the weird typewriter person if you typecast to much :P
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capjamesg
Can I podcast about that?
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gRegor
You could screencast your podcast about typecasting
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sknebel
should be a papercast surely, no screen involved
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capjamesg
Now I just need someone to explain to me the difference between podcasting and netcasting.
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[tantek]
overhead-projector-cast
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capjamesg
Is the latter when I cast a net?
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sknebel
(I think netcasting wasnt specific to audio? but might be wrong on that)
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[KevinMarks]
The iPod Video came out in 2005
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boffosocko.com
edited /2023/SD (+124) "/* Posts */ Joe Crawford day two with photo"
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gregorlove.com
edited /Ghost (+540) "/* IndieWeb Friendly */ update current Webmention support, link docs/forum"
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[tantek]
"does yet"? missing a "not" gRegor?
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gregorlove.com
edited /Ghost (+4) "/* IndieWeb Friendly */ +yet"
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gRegor
Yep, thanks!
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[aciccarello]
Who has the official group photos from this weekend? Are they posted anywhere?
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gRegor
lol, correct update, wrong summary xD
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gRegor
Loqi?
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gRegor
what is datetime
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Loqi
datetime refers to an expression of the date (year, month, day), time (hours, minutes, optionally seconds), and optionally timezone https://indieweb.org/datetime
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boffosocko.com
edited /typecast (+162) "more examples"
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[tantek]
welp perhaps that's why iCalendar has DTSTART, DTEND, and DURATION properties
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[tantek]
aciccarello I have to official photos and need to upload
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[tantek]
have the* official photos
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