#meta 2024-06-10

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alabut.com
edited /discuss (+296) "/* off the record channel */"
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[tantek]
haha indieweb-cafe is winning even more now 😄
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[tantek]
time to make an espresso
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gRegor
Hm, is some of the text extra wide on this page for anyone else? I'm getting horizontal scroll, not sure why the text doesn't wrap: https://indieweb.org/discuss#off_the_record_channel
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gRegor
See JL Gatewood's comment under #indieweb-cafe
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aaronpk
yeah, weird
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aaronpk
what the heck
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aaronpk
something weird with the template
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[Joe_Crawford]
a <span> with an explicit style=white-space:nowrap
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aaronpk
the text of the line is getting added inside the template
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[Joe_Crawford]
class h-card
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capjamesg[d]
Fixed, I think.
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capjamesg[d]
There was a missing closing tag on the span.
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gRegor
thanks!
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gRegor
I was to the point of trying to manually retype it in case there was some Unicode non-breaking space or something, haha
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capjamesg[d]
I removed the sparkline in preview and everything worked, so I knew the problem was in the sparkline.
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aaronpk
that would explain it
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[tantek]
gotta love binary search to find problems in changes
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tantek.com
edited /webring (+78) "indieweb relevance in dfn, link to indiewebring"
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tantek.com
edited /webring (+1) ","
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[tantek]
what is a webring
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Loqi
A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure; check out the indiewebring, a webring across IndieWeb sites and blogs https://indieweb.org/webring
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[tantek]
Slack-- for being poor at search and even worse and select / copy / paste
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Loqi
Slack has -2 karma in this channel over the last year (-3 in all channels)
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[tantek]
drat. our http://chat.indieweb.org search does not index the #indieweb-stream channel, which it really should
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[tantek]
until then, going to drop this here for future findability: describing or otherwise framing something as "non-technical" or for "non-developers" is harmful and you (everyone) should avoid that framing/dichotomy in all writing, communication, blog posts, etc. See https://chat.indieweb.org/stream/2024-06-10#t1718052809683000 for reasons and expansions why
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[tantek]
weird, still not showing up. I wonder what the latency is for IndieWeb chat search
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gRegor
It was entirely broken for a while there as far as indexing new logs
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capjamesg[d]
(Since May 16th)
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aaronpk
again lol
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aaronpk
that git repo is too big
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[tantek]
it's "just" text right? what am I missing? are we really that chatty?!?
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tantek.com
edited /Category:jargon (+34) "+SSH, protocol, Gemini"
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aaronpk
it's a ton of commits
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aaronpk
ok i added some logging so we'll see what the actual problem is next time it happens
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aaronpk
what happens is .git/index.lock doesn't get deleted for some reason
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[tantek]
oh is this the weird git-is-a-database design flaw?
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[tantek]
"ton of commits" — does using squash & merge help with that?
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[tantek]
or rebasing or whatever the heck that's called
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aaronpk
dunno, will have to wait until it happens again to find out the actual error message
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[tantek]
this kind of stuff is what cracks me up everytime people suggest github instead of a wiki
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aaronpk
158,434 commits
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[tantek]
so what I'm hearing is that databases don't actually scale to lots of commits
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[Joe_Crawford]
I suspect other folks have run into issues along these lines - curious as to how they addressed it. I have an intuition that creating remote branches in some automated way and then automatically squash merging them at some interval - so that each day/week/2 weeks/1 month would be a single commit might create less git "overhead" (metadata, roughly?) but that's merely intuition, not something I'd bet money and time on.
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[tantek]
also some good reasons to avoid using git for long term storage for a personal site
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aaronpk
the good news is it will take me a long time for my personal site to get this many files/commits
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aaronpk
or maybe not, already at 49,698 commits 😬
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[tantek]
and when did you start the current version of your personal site? (how many years ago)