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catgirlin.space edited /User:Catgirlin.space (-78) "remove fedi" (view diff)
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lucien.nogues.ca created /Template:nostr-link (+255) "Created page with "<includeonly><img src="https://nostrweb.xyz/images/logo-64x64.jpg" alt="Nostr" style="height: 1.2em; vertical-align:bottom;" />  [https://snort.social/{{{username}}} @{{{username}}}] <nowiki /></includeonly><noinclude> {{nostr-link/doc}} </noinclude>"" (view diff)
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lucien.nogues.ca created /Template:nostr-link/doc (+751) "Created page with "This template is used to generate a Nostr profile link with a Nostr icon to the left of the username. == Blank Template == Copy, paste, and fill in your username. <pre style="line-height: 1.4em; padding: 1em; border: 1px solid #ddd; color: black; background-color: #f9f9f9; white-space: pre-wrap;">{{nostr-link| username = }}</pre> == Example == Including this template code: <pre style="line-height: 1.4em; padding: 1em; border: 1px solid #ddd; color: black; background-..."" (view diff)
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pcarrier would be nice to get https://stream.indieweb.org/ in the fediverse. I often wish I could reply to stuff but do not have access to the toot on my server :(
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lucien.nogues.ca edited /Template:nostr-link (+59) (view diff)
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lucien.nogues.ca edited /User:Lucien.nogues.ca (+208) (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ hah maybe it's time for a Nostr page?
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[tantek] What is Nostr?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Nostr" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Nostr is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] [snarfed] you're working on Bridgy Fed support right? Or already shipped?
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[snarfed] [tantek] yeah granary already supports it and BF hopefully will eventually
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[tantek] yeah that's enough to stub a page
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gRegor Is nostr only a one-instance thing like Bluesky? Noticed that template link is snort.social/[username]?
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[mattl]2 is bluesky only one instance? i thought there were at least a couple (one used by most people, one for staff, one for dev stuff)
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gRegor Hm, yeah, looks like the nostr-link template should let you paste in a full link, not only the username
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] I thought nostr was distributed
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gRegor I think it is, just confirming
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[sebbu] I confirm it, the identifying part is your key, not the site you're using
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[sebbu] I can see my nostr account on both https://primal.net/p/npub14yct5d2heclcc3cmmurk4gu7pvluz8k2rc2l5rx4a44eav5aww9qpxe4fj and https://coracle.social/people/nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3uamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwp6kytnhv4kxcmmjv3jhytnwv46z7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcqyz5npw342l8rlrz8r00sw64rnc9nlsg7eg0pt7sv6hkkh84jn4ec5qe9tul and
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[sebbu] https://snort.social/nprofile1qqs2jv96x4tuu0uvguda7pm25w0qk07prm9pu906pn2766u7k2wh8zspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx6mmddaehgu3wwp5ku6e0qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnzd96xxmmfdejhytnnda3kjctv9um9ppy5
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[sebbu] (i'm not even sure why i get different nprofile, while it's the same npub or nip-05 or 07)
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trainedmonkey.com edited /personal-domain (+13) "Add myself to Porkbun users" (view diff)
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tantek.com moved /indieweb-carnival to /IndieWeb_carnival "canonical casing from the dfn"
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tantek.com moved /indieweb-movie-club to /IndieWeb_Movie_Club "canonical casing from the dfn"
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+280) "try adding the carnivals to the home page, collapsing pop-ups into camps" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+125) "drop standards from the summary description at the top because it's unsuitable for most of our audience today! Move open standards link / blurb to Beyond Blogging and Decentralization" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ [schmarty] gRegor [KevinMarks] capjamesg[d] and everyone else who has worked on or has an opinion about the home page, please review! Small changes but hopefully big impacts.
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-8) "more welcoming language tweak suggested by marksuth, lazcorp" (view diff)
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gRegor looks good
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[schmarty] tantek++ great incremental improvements!
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Loqi tantek has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (123 in all channels)
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[tantek] [schmarty] your back/forth with star**** inspired some of this. People repeatedly obsessing about the early mention of "open standards" made me finally realize we are long past that being the core audience we have
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gRegor While you're updating, IWC Portland can be removed from upcoming IWCs on the homepage
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[tantek] was going to try to get a venue for Berlin
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tantek.com moved /IndieWeb_carnival to /IndieWeb_Carnival "proper noun caps per creator Sara"
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tantek.com edited /indieweb-carnival (+0) "r--" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+0) "r--" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /blog_carnival (-18) "proper noun caps IndieWeb Carnival" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /blog_carnival (+2) "A" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ in the context of the home page edits I made, worth reading: https://www.mmmx.cloud/after-xoxo
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Loqi "Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2024/09/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-GalzvIDpEF88
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artlung.com edited /Front_End_Study_Hall (+37) "/* To-Study List! add link checker per Tantek suggestion! */" (view diff)
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Loqi [New Event] artlung.com created "Sep 12, 2024 6:00pm Front End Study Hall #010" https://events.indieweb.org/OgBuZxphjMHb
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[tantek] btw credit for Main_Page edits inspo goes to Marksuth who wondered out loud during HWC EU if we could somehow feature or make more visible the blog carnival and IndieWeb Movie Club collaborative blogging efforts. made sense to me as an onramp so I added that mini new section https://indieweb.org/#📝_Blog_With_Us_Monthly and bumped/rotated colors a bit (and merged the Popups section into IndieWebCamp because there are usually zero or one
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[tantek] popups and that didn't seem like it needed its own section and was close enough IWCs)
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[tantek] then the top level dfn edit thanks to [schmarty]'s back/forth posts
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[tantek] and then the rewording/reframing from "It is " to "We are" also from marksuth to be more inviting, and frankly, a more people-centric framing ("we") rather than amorphous organizational entity ("it")
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capjamesg[d] Looks great!
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capjamesg[d] tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (124 in all channels)
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[tantek] (capturing the thinking so it's at least in the logs as deliberate with reasoning/methodology rather than capricious / "vibes")
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (+164) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /omg.lol (+79) "split Features into IndieWeb Friendly up top" (view diff)
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mat.tl edited /omg.lol (+5) "/* IndieWeb Friendly */" (view diff)
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mat.tl edited /omg.lol (+129) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /planet (+86) "highlight the IndieWeb Planet at the top" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-36) "update old IRC links to chat links, drop dupe link" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] My blog isn't on Stream, and hasn't been for a while IIRC.
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[tantek] I'm confused, I thought Stream got its list from chat-names
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pcarrier just to be contrarian, my blog is a subdomain of my website
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pcarrier so unless it traverses rel=me…
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aaronpk i don't think i ever automated that 😬
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aaronpk now you're there
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[mattl]2 pcarrier: mine is too. i like to have lots of subdomains.
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[mattl]2 https://blog.mat.tl/feed/ if you’re adding things Aaron 🙂
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aaronpk ✅
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[tantek] pcarrier, there's plenty of folks that use a subdomain of their own domain for their website, like GWG
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pcarrier dang I'm not the rebel I thought I was
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adam.omg.lol edited /omg.lol (+210) "/* IndieWeb Friendly */ + weblog.lol microformats info" (view diff)
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[mattl]2 nice to see i’m keeping up with the one blog post per xoxofest tradition so far 😕
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[tantek] 👀 Welcome Adam!
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capjamesg[d] That is to say that Stream isn't presently representative of the community 😄
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gRegor what is stream.indieweb.org
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Loqi stream.indieweb.org is a web view of a stream of public posts with relevant hashtags across various services, that are also shown in the #stream chat channel https://indieweb.org/stream.indieweb.org
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pcarrier I read it and I didn't realize it was meant to be planet-like, I really thought it was matching keywords
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gRegor Huh I thought we'd captured it on that page, guess not
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aaronpk the wiki page description is pretty explicit about it matching keywords. there's no indication on stream.indieweb.org itself tho
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[mattl]2 should we add some other words to that search? bluesky, atproto, open social web, etc?
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gRegor stream.indieweb.org << [https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-02-15#t1707956226403000 Chat discussion about how indieweb sites are included]
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2024-02-15#t1707956226403000 Chat discussion about how indieweb sites are included]" to the "See Also" section of /stream.indieweb.org https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=96779&oldid=95841
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[tantek] depends on how user-welcoming vs dev-heavy you want
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[tantek] http://dev.stream.indieweb.org 😛
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aaronpk oh no
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aaronpk well there's a bunch of dev terms already, but only from blog search not from mastodon search
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[tantek] 👍
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[tantek] and the dev terms we have are from IndieWeb building blocks, probably better that way
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mat.tl edited /IndieWeb_Movie_Club (+11) "/* The List of Future Hosts */" (view diff)
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[mattl]2 hope you all like movies about monkeys 😉
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cascading.space created /User:Cascading.space (+1045) "Cascade is an alien from Xerox VII that likes making things." (view diff)
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[Joe_Crawford] "where all you need to do to get elected is to make monkey movies / just ask Clint and Ronnie"
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[mattl]2 damn, can’t even get elected 😕
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cascading.space edited /User:Cascading.space (-11) (view diff)
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GWG I also have a top level
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[Joe_Crawford] astoundingly, if I put that string that ends with "Clint and Ronnie" no search engine comes up with this page - https://genius.com/The-beatnigs-welcome-television-lyrics - unless I also add the artist name.
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[Joe_Crawford] altavista was better.
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[Joe_Crawford] old-man-yells-at-cloud dot gif
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[mattl]2 “Clint and Ronnie” lyrics comes up with stuff for me
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[Joe_Crawford] it seems to force the appearance of Clint and Ronnie Howard, notable Hollywood brothers.
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[mattl]2 but he goes by Ron Howard AFAIK
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[mattl]2 surely they weren’t… named for the actors?
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[Joe_Crawford] the actors alluded to in those lyrics are Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel at the time of the song) and Ronald Reagan (US President at the time)
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[Joe_Crawford] astoundingly not annotated on that Genius page. 😐