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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-13) "dedupe necessary" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /granary (+179) "expand definition, more IndieWeb relevance" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /next-iwc (-2) "next Berlin (hopefull!)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin (+354) "emojicons, stub Planning, Participating" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+3) "Berlin is coming up (assuming we can get a venue)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Berlin (+106) "Upcoming 2024" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-186) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /Template:next-hwc (+0) "update next date from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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pcarrier [tantek] Every time you resubmit your posts they show up as a new feed entry in stream.indieweb.org
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aaronpk what does "resubmit" mean here?
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pcarrier He was experimenting with making changes and posting updates through the fed.brid.gy, IDK what the implications were for the feeds consumed by stream.indieweb.org. I'll let him answer 🙂
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aaronpk hmm, it's using the rss feed from mastodon, but as long as the post URL doesn't change between updates it shouldn't be duplicating it
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[tantek] pcarrier, what you're seeing in #indieweb-stream is a bit weird and a side-effect of stream picking up both posts directly from my h-feed and from Mastodon tags feeds.
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[tantek] I need to add rel canonical or maybe a uid
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[tantek] I have to change the slug in order to get Bridgy Fed to retry federating a post that failed in Masto
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aaronpk ah that makes sense
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[tantek] That may also be causing it to show up as "new" in feed consumers
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aaronpk i don't have a good way to dedupe those either
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[tantek] I may need to do more work on my end aaronpk to make that more easily possible
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aaronpk well even if you did, i just don't have that kind of cross-source deduping capability right now
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[tantek] Right. There's multiple de-duping problems here
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aaronpk there's also the question of verifying the links, since it shouldn't be possible for a site to just claim that it's a copy of another site
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aaronpk so really it needs bidirectional links between the two sources
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[tantek] or redirects
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[tantek] which I believe already works, e.g. the fed.bridgy URLs of my posts all redirect when you do an accept text/html to my tantek .com permalinks
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aaronpk yeah that would work
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pcarrier [tantek] "what you're seeing in #indieweb-stream is a bit weird and a side-effect of stream picking up both posts directly from my h-feed and from Mastodon tags feeds"
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pcarrier right, but did you add to your h-feed, or did you update in place? if you update in-place, should it appear in the stream today instead of a few days ago when initially posted?
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[tantek] update in place
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[tantek] noting that when you update the slug of a post "in place", most feed file consumers / consuming code will interpret that as "new post"
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[tantek] which is likely why you're seeing the "appear in the stream today"
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pcarrier aaronpk: were you saying https://nothing.pcarrier.com/feed.json is aggregated? posted today 🙂
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aaronpk no you weren't added yet. i'm getting some sort of parsing error with the jsonfeed, i don't know why
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aaronpk oh there it goes
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pcarrier is my JSON no good?
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aaronpk i think it's fine. not sure what the glitch on my end was
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loqi.me created /protected_post (+22) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /protected (+122) "/* Examples */ mv me to past examples" (view diff)
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Loqi [[Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking&diff=1244220752&oldid=prev Baldemoto: Updated atproto information
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gregorlove.com edited /rsvp (+30) "explicit p-summary" (view diff)
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pcarrier aaronpk: still not picking up I think
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loqi.me created /rvsp (+17) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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mat.tl edited /web_hosting (-88) "/* IndieWeb community members using this approach */" (view diff)
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mat.tl edited /web_hosting (+88) "/* Virtual Private Server */" (view diff)
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gRegor welp, guess we can remove "and via Bridgy Publish to Facebook events as well!" on /rsvp, heh
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mat.tl edited /web_hosting (+19) "/* Shared Hosting */" (view diff)
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mat.tl created /Nearly_Free_Speech (+457) "Created page with "Nearly Free Speech is a hosting provider with servers in the NYC region. For hosting static websites, they charge as little as $0.01 per day, making them ideally suited for very small sites. PHP and other languages are supported, MySQL databases are also supported. * They have a pricing estimator on their website: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/estimate * {{mat.tl}} is using them to host a static copy of a defunct local newspaper's WordPress website"" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /rsvp (-55) "/* Why */ RIP Bridgy Publish to FB" (view diff)
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gRegor Thoughts on updating "it also makes sense to POSSE all your RSVPs as you would any other reply or note (e.g. to Twitter etc.)" to "Fediverse, Bluesky" instead of Twitter?
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[mattl]2 gregor++
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Loqi gregor has 55 karma in this channel over the last year (131 in all channels)
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[mattl]2 Not sure anything should advocating using Twitter anymore
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ben true that^
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gregorlove.com edited /rsvp (+82) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ mv kylewm to past examples" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /rsvp (+123) "IA links for a couple zombie URLs" (view diff)
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[tantek] yeah, that's going to need some cleanup 😕
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[tantek] or at least moving to personal opinions instead of general guidance
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loqi.me created /communication_protocol (+38) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)