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# [tantek]2 since we were chatting code of conduct, I figure it may be worth exploring an adjacent topic, which is just how much handholding / patience / answering questions / coaching / nudging should we expect or be ok with for any particular new person that shows up? and how much is too much labor for the volunteers here?
# [tantek]2 I am thinking in particular of the instances in the past month or so of highly technical folks that are more on the OSS / Free Software side of things, who tend to speak abruptly, often (over)confidently, and tend to quickly become arrogant, entitled, or just don't bother listening to answers and guidance given
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capjamesg[d] I think we should embrace the idea that we're here for talking about personal websites.
# [tantek]2 IMO we want to be welcoming to as many (different kinds of) people we can, however when the labor of being /welcoming exceeds the positivity (if any) that a new person is bringing to the community (or worse, if their participation is anti-social, or otherwise unfriendly to others), I think there is an important judgment call to be made
# capjamesg[d] There are other places on the web for tech talk (HN, Lobsters, probably countless Discords, YouTubes, etc.)
# [tantek]2 capjamesg[d], agreed, *personal* *web* sites
# [tantek]2 so far that matter, I think we should discourage non-web discussions in general or nudge them towards random, however technically adjacent they are
# [tantek]2 as an example, Gemini protocol is borderline IMO. I'm not sure what value there is in discussing it in indieweb-* channels but I'm also not convinced it has zero value. curious what other folks think. should Gemini protocol discussion be on topic for indieweb-dev or is there a better place we can direct such discussion?
# [tantek]2 also it's been pointed out to me that gemini: links are unfriendly to the vast majority of folks here, so should we ask people to not share them in indieweb-* channels?
# [tantek]2 ^ aaronpk [mattl] gRegor [Joe_Crawford] would be interested in at least your input on the above
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