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# 18:28 FlavioOliveira is some one there?
# 18:42 FlavioOliveira i has replying to your email now
# 18:47 FlavioOliveira as i was telling on email
# 18:47 FlavioOliveira one of my main goals to that specification proposal
# 18:48 FlavioOliveira is to have the possibility of
# 18:48 FlavioOliveira define a hierarquical relation on places
# 18:49 FlavioOliveira and have the possibility to define how is it composed with other sub places
# 18:50 FlavioOliveira existing specs are the way to "richify" the place definition
# 18:51 FlavioOliveira it could be interesting to have a way to define how a place is composed
# 18:54 FlavioOliveira do you have a skype?
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# 20:27 neuro` FlavioOliveira: do you have a real life example of that place / subplace hierarchy?
# 20:43 mkowens neuro`: I've not seen a specific document, but I would suspect that there are a few reasonable examples: 1) Shopping Mall with a number of shops inside of it
# 20:43 mkowens 2) Food Court with a number of restaurants inside of it
# 20:43 mkowens 3) Airport with a number of Gates, Shops, and Restaurants inside it
# 20:43 mkowens 4) University with a number of buildings, offices, and areas within it
# 20:43 mkowens and, 5) Office Building with individual businesses/offices inside of it.
# 20:44 FlavioOliveira hi mkowens
# 20:44 FlavioOliveira thats my goal
# 20:44 mkowens In fact, one thing that seems weird to me is that every time I go to the SoMa StrEat Food Park here in SF that I can't check-in to that and a specific food truck in a single check-in
# 20:44 mkowens I have to perform two separate check-ins to accomplish that even though one is a superset of the other.
# 20:45 mkowens It's the whole concept of Place Resolution.
# 20:45 FlavioOliveira OK, that's my point!
# 20:46 FlavioOliveira what do you feel about create a spec for this?
# 20:46 mkowens For Example, the Place Resolution Chain for the Bacon Bacon Food Truck here in SF would be: "World > North America > United States of America > California > San Francisco > SoMa > SoMa StrEat Food Park > Bacon Bacon"
# 20:46 FlavioOliveira exactlly
# 20:47 mkowens FlavioOliveira: I'm not sure there's necessarily a spec required to achieve this, but exploring it as an concept seems reasonable.
# 20:47 Loqi mkowens meant to say: FlavioOliveira: I'm not sure there's necessarily a spec required to achieve this, but exploring it a an concept seems reaonable.
# 20:48 mkowens Typo'd in my search/replace.
# 20:49 FlavioOliveira i've a website project where it seems to be a great way to define the place hierarchy
# 20:49 FlavioOliveira where you can find events for a different kind of filters!
# 20:50 FlavioOliveira and one filter is just the place where events are pointed to exist
# 20:59 neuro` mkowens: oh, yeah, I see, didn't thought about it that way
# 21:10 tantek A good way to further explore it as an concept would be to analyze a real world publishing example of such space/place/location hierarchy.
# 21:11 tantek FlavioOliveria, mkowens, do you know of any sites/pages where physical locations/venues are discussed hierarchically?
# 21:12 neuro` Shall we consider multiple levels, or would a dl be enough?
# 21:12 neuro` I'd rather see a visual implementation, like a map, but then we need a textual fallback
# 21:18 neuro` The geonames API definitely makes me want to use a dl
# 21:19 FlavioOliveira OK, take a look to my project:
# 21:19 FlavioOliveira (sorry if it is not on english :S:S:S)
# 21:19 tantek first step is to gather real-world examples of publishing content
# 21:20 FlavioOliveira it shows a plist of venues for a 2 level of apacial hierarchy
# 21:20 FlavioOliveira first step is to gather real-world examples of publishing content
# 21:21 FlavioOliveira list of velues with 2 levels of hierarchy
# 21:22 tantek then we can share both collections of research for further analysis (and attempts to "just" use nested hCards etc.)
# 21:23 tantek also I wonder how much this might overlap or relate to the effort to define a "breadcrumb" microformat
# 21:23 tantek which is often used to convey nested page hierarchy in navigation
# 21:25 tantek FlavioOliveira - are you able to create an account on the wiki? http://microformats.org/wiki - once you do that and log in, you can create/edit pages to list the examples you (and others have come up with)
# 21:25 tantek (feel free to copy past them from IRC into a discrete list)
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# 23:51 tantek huh I wonder what happened to have krijnh drop off the channel