#microformats 2014-07-10

2014-07-10 UTC
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tantek KartikPrabhu: URL?
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KevinMarks what do parsers do with a u-* not inside an h-* now?
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KartikPrabhu tantek: http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4WjHpC/
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tantek KevinMarks: they never see it
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tantek aka they ignore it
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: yes. properties are parsed only inside the root microformat i.e. h-*
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KevinMarks that's what I thought
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KevinMarks there was some bug with one of the parsers and h-* on html, did that get fixed?
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KartikPrabhu we monkey-patched that in mf2py
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KartikPrabhu the trouble was with beautiful soup and html5lib
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KartikPrabhu documented here: https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py/issues/41
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: do you know if "ignoring everything inside <noscript>" is the right behaviour for HTML parsers?
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tantek edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+1654) "/* link elements and u- parsing */ expand issue description with IRC discussion, links to real world examples, more specific markup" (view diff)
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tantek KartikPrabhu, KevinMarks ok expanded issue with what we discussed here - does that read ok? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#link_elements_and_u-_parsing
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KartikPrabhu tantek: reads well. examples are a nice addition
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tantek thanks. I like to strengthen these things like a proof.
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tantek so that by the time we have a resolution the answer seems obvious.
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KartikPrabhu approves :P
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tantek edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+594) "bump link elements and u- parsing to top of list since it has documented real world examples, move extraciton issue and Parsing properties from rel issue to resolved since it has a proposed resolution" (view diff)
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tantek edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+18) "Issue raised by" (view diff)
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mko Out of curiosity, does know the format for directly linking to an IRC nick (i.e. "Send a message to X on freenode.net" with a link like "irc://chat.freenode.net/nick" similar to the IRC room URL format)?
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tantek mko no one supports it
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mko That's a shame.
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mko @tantek: Thanks.
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tantek and it's really difficult to find - the spec really sucks
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tantek let's see there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_scheme#irc:
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tantek yeah ,isuser
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tantek here you go: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-butcher-irc-url-04#page-8
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tantek <irc://irc.alien.net.au/pickle,isuser> for opening a message to user/nickname "pickle"
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tantek mko - if you find *any* IRC client in which that works, please let me know
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tantek all my testing revealed zero success
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tantek and all kinds of broken silent failure behavior
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tantek e.g. joining a room "pickle" instead
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mko Yeah. Joining a room was pretty much the only thing I could figure out how to reliably do when I tried to figure it out a few days ago.
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mko Thanks for the update and confirmation of the bad spec.
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tantek it's so bad I didn't bother to document it on any wiki (pretty sure)
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mko Yeah. I actually went looking on your wiki's communication preferences as a primary source when I couldn't find it via typical searching.
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tantek mko - here's a list of URLs that *do* work in various degress for comm services/apps: http://tantek.com/2014/084/b1/urls-people-focused-mobile-communication
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mko Excellent!
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mko @tantek +1
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mko Oh. Loqi isn't in this room anymore.
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Loqi :)
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mko Or is . . .
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mko @tantek ++
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mko @tantek++
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mko Alright. Screw it, Loqi. I don't know how to give @tantek karma, but clearly, he's got a lot.
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tantek hah - I don't think Loqi listens to @-names. try dropping the @
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mko tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 49 karma
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mko Oh. Well, there you go.
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KartikPrabhu mko: strangely tantek on has 49 karma
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mko Right?
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mko I expected much more.
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