#microformats 2017-06-11

2017-06-11 UTC
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@viennahtml @kevinmarks @microformats Thanks for the comments. Good point. The idea is to try out alternative ways / formats. T… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/873806580378107904 (twitter.com/_/status/873806580378107904)
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@viennahtml @dissolve333 @microformats Thanks for your comments. Good point. The idea is that if published is an attribute of <… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/873806969630543872 (twitter.com/_/status/873806969630543872)
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@yamlfeed @manuscriptsnews Idea would be to keep it parsable from html with microformats like you can do now with jf2. (twitter.com/_/status/873855850934415360)
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@dissolve333 @viennahtml @microformats The problem is it now heavily influences html layout, can be very limiting too design. U… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/873857422091333632 (twitter.com/_/status/873857422091333632)
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@expertoseoperu Obtén gran visibilidad de tu sitio web con Author Hreview - https://expertoenseo.pe/obten-gran-visibilidad-de-tu-sitio-web-con-author-hreview/ https://twitter.com/expertoseoperu/status/873955900209250305/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/873955900209250305)
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@KatiaMendez20 Obtén gran visibilidad de tu sitio web con Author Hreview - https://expertoenseo.pe/obten-gran-visibilidad-de-tu-sitio-web-con-author-hreview/ https://twitter.com/KatiaMendez20/status/873955909092823040/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/873955909092823040)
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@OhMujer1 Obtén gran visibilidad de tu sitio web con Author Hreview - https://expertoenseo.pe/obten-gran-visibilidad-de-tu-sitio-web-con-author-hreview/ https://twitter.com/OhMujer1/status/873955918362234881/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/873955918362234881)
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sknebel can anyone think of a scenario where you'd try to set an implied property (other than URL) to empty?
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Zegnat For a feed’s sake you might want to set name to empty and only have content filled? Although name===content is something a lot of indie readers check for
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sknebel (I'm primarily thinking about how important fixing https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/130 and similar issues for non-URLs)
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Loqi [sknebel] #130 empty attributes are not handled in implied properties
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Zegnat The example microformats.io link has timed out
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Zegnat I don’t think a fix is important, though it should be done at some point, imho
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sknebel it was the same example as in the linked test case
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sknebel (which tested URLs only)
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sknebel reviewing http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_for_implied_properties again, title mostly explicitly excludes empty strings, and photo-urls that are empty also don't really make much sense, so it's unlikely to actually come up
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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Zegnat “if no explicit "name" property,” could still be explicitly empty though, right? Do parsers handle those right?
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sknebel think so
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sknebel (haven't tested it comprehensively though, and still have no idea what the testsuite covers and doesn't cover
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sknebel I personally find its structure by h-type quite frustrating for mf2
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Zegnat True, parsers should be mostly agnostic to whatever comes after h- or after any other parser hint. On the other hand, as mf2 is always documented based on from-the-wild examples, it makes sense to have the testsuite written around actual examples too.
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sknebel makes it hard to figure out if something is in it or not
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