#microformats 2018-10-28
2018-10-28 UTC
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@tmcw ✨ google finally started parsing my site's microformats and now my book reviews have lil stars next to the results! the dream of web 2.0 is alive. (twitter.com/_/status/1056359137271996416)
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KartikPrabhu is there any use-case for separately marking up the currency?
# KartikPrabhu the example in the wiki page uses value-class pattern but you can skip that entirely to have the price parsed as "$20.00"
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rockman37 The potential use-case is so that search engines etc. know what currency is being represented; of course, this relies on them actually doing that.
# KartikPrabhu or parsing microformats in the first place
# rockman37 That they apparently do, according to the Wiki.
# rockman37 It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me to do anything with price information unless you know what currency is being represented.
# KartikPrabhu using <span class="p-price">$20.00</span> looks fine to me
# rockman37 (Other than blindly show it to the user.)
# rockman37 That's fine, but I don't know from that what currency that is (other than some kind of dollar, obviously).
# KartikPrabhu "20.00 USD" or "20.00 US dollars" also works
# KartikPrabhu this all depends on what you want to do with the parsed information other than show it to the user
# KartikPrabhu if you have a use-case for actually using the parsed currency that would be great
# rockman37 Mhm, I guess that works.
# rockman37 My main reason for including it at this point is just so it's available in a machine-readable format if so needed; I'm not (yet) writing any code that parses and uses the data.
# KartikPrabhu right. without any actual consuming use-case for the parsed data there is no real reason to add another property
# KartikPrabhu there is some related brainstorming on "measures" in general http://microformats.org/wiki/measure
# KartikPrabhu but again not enough actual usage to justify a new micorformat
# rockman37 I'll take a look at that, thanks.
# rockman37 A related question: In classic microformats, is it actually valid to include HTML markup within an element marked up as a microformat property? E.g., <div class="price"><abbr class="currency" title="NZD">NZD</abbr> $50</div>
# KartikPrabhu I don't think that will be parsed correctly
# rockman37 Okay.
# rockman37 But in microformats2, that is allowed, right?
# KartikPrabhu you probably get: price = "NZD $50"
# KartikPrabhu in both mf1 and mf2
# rockman37 That is the desired output, actually.
# KartikPrabhu if that is your desired parsed result then go for it
# rockman37 Thanks.
# KartikPrabhu rockman37: you can test your markup on various parsers here https://microformats.io/#parsers
# rockman37 I'll try it out.
# rockman37 https://pin13.net/mf2/ Doesn't like HTML within p-x elements.
# KartikPrabhu the p-* prefix is to parse it as plaintext
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Loqi aaronpk: gRegorLove left you a message 5 days, 1 hour ago: Can you update this plugin on the wiki? Should fix the Special:Version page https://github.com/gRegorLove/mediawiki-entry-title-override/commit/953d33d75c524c7624a9148925af50f08fe2fe50
# rockman37 aaronpk: Can I arbitrarily switch prefixes on standard properties?
# KartikPrabhu rockman37: from the parsers point of view yes
# KartikPrabhu mf2 parsing is very flexible. but not so if you are using mf1
# rockman37 KartikPrabhu: Good to know.
# KartikPrabhu the backwards compatible parsing for mf1 is pretty rigid
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@jackyalcine ↩️ It looks like you're using the http://schema.org stuff that Google pushes, not microformats :/
http://microformats.org/wiki/review vs https://schema.org/Review (twitter.com/_/status/1056399600116879360)
# rockman37 Loqi: Is that comment addressed at me?
# rockman37 aaronpk: Cool, thanks.
# KartikPrabhu rockman37: no that comment is a tweet that our helpful bot Loqi transmitted to IRC :)
# rockman37 KartikPrabhu: Ah, okay :)
# rockman37 looks at Schema.org anyway.
# KartikPrabhu rockman37: be careful, volcanoes have fax numbers on Schema!!
# rockman37 KartikPrabhu: Useful!
# KartikPrabhu aaronpk: will you location track your trek with mf2 ;)
# rockman37 My local volcano only has a phone number :(
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@ohashimasaki ↩️ 海外では職務経歴書のXML形式がたくさんあるようだ。
http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats (twitter.com/_/status/1056546456788594688)
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@jgmac1106 Connection between microformats and #IndieWeb: https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2011-12-07#t1323275434000000 (twitter.com/_/status/1056581475464810498)
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