#social 2015-03-04

2015-03-04 UTC
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stevenroose is any interoperability between pump and diaspora possible at the moment?
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elf-pavlik i don't think so
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elf-pavlik but once both implement specs we develop here then it will work
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Loqi Pelf made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/Social syntax]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82630&oldid=82561
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Loqi Pelf made 2 edits to [[Socialwg/Social syntax]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82632&oldid=82630
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elf-pavlik melvster, https://github.com/okTurtles/blockchainid | https://twitter.com/lightcoin/status/573055781630685184
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Loqi @lightcoin :: @elfpavlik have you seen @blockchainid? https://github.com/okTurtles/blockchainid @fkooman @scorlosquet @bblfish @therealdeiu
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melvster lol
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melvster elf-pavlik: how is this related to the w3c social wg work?
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melvster seem block chain is the buzz word du jour
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melvster what I really need to understand right now is how social networks determine presence
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melvster online / offline / away
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elf-pavlik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Presence_Ontology
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melvster elf-pavlik: thanks! but the site seems down?
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melvster for a year?
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melvster elf-pavlik: has it ever been used?
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melvster "OPO is mentioned in W3C Social Web Incubator Group final report[1] as one of the vocabularies that support the publishing of Social Web data on the Semantic Web, along with FOAF and SIOC."
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elf-pavlik https://twitter.com/elfpavlik/status/518303163540328448
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melvster my chat system is now an android app too ... but you really need presence these days
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Loqi @elfpavlik :: @milstan also http://online-presence.net/opo/ns down :( i can help with getting it back up and running on https://pages.github.com/ !
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melvster thx
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melvster elf-pavlik: do you have a webid?
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melvster i guess now
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melvster not
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melvster Error: Not Acceptable
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melvster at ServerResponse.res.format (/var/www/clients/client4/web40/private/wwelves.org/node_modules/express/lib/response.js:501:15)
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melvster should really return something else
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elf-pavlik https://indiecert.net/welcome
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elf-pavlik do you remember https://twitter.com/fkooman
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melvster yes or course
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melvster LOL
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melvster https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/blog/img/keep-calm-and-use-certificates.png
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melvster oh boy ... fkooman, I thought he knew better ...
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melvster mailed him
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melvster they could just use webid+tls of course, which is specced *sigh*
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elf-pavlik i sit next to him right now :D
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melvster tell him not to use di:
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melvster this is nice tho: application/x-x509-user-cert
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elf-pavlik melvster, pleae write him another email :)
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melvster already mailed him ... di: was obsolete years ago, use ni: and also you should really put something in .well-known/ni/
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elf-pavlik ni ?
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stevenroose melvster, what's ni?
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melvster a uri scheme
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elf-pavlik melvster, http://www.sioc-project.org/
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elf-pavlik facepalm
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melvster elf-pavlik: what am I looking for?
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elf-pavlik http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/terms?vocab=tsioc
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elf-pavlik SIOC website down
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elf-pavlik do you use http://rdfs.org/sioc/types#InstantMessage ?
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elf-pavlik http://rdfs.org/sioc/types#ChatChannel
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melvster elf-pavlik++
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Loqi elf-pavlik has 8 karma
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melvster not yet, but that works for me
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elf-pavlik BTW you can get this channel as microformats from http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-03-04
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melvster sioc : comment is also useful for me
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melvster can use it to create facebook style posts
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melvster which is just a skin on what i already have
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elf-pavlik melvster, do you keep your data as turtle or rdfa? which one gets generated from which?
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elf-pavlik curl http://melvincarvalho.com/ -H "Accept: text/turtle"
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melvster i support turtle mainly yes
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melvster i used to do rdfa
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elf-pavlik ➜ curl http://melvincarvalho.com/ -I
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melvster but the webid spec changed to mandate turtle
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elf-pavlik Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml
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melvster so i changed it ... took like 30 minutes
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elf-pavlik do you render RDFa from data in turtle?
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elf-pavlik ATM i use data in JSON-LD to render my RDFa version of it
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melvster yes
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melvster if the webid spec decides to support json ld ill just add it
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melvster not a priority for me right now as I dont gain much
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melvster more interested in app building
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melvster using my app on android now
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melvster it's quickly becoming my most useful app!
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elf-pavlik i try to ask if you render RDFa version of you webpage from data in Trutle or you duplicate data and update it by editing both files?
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melvster oic
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melvster no
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melvster other way round
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melvster i get the turtle from the rdfa
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melvster my home page is not complicated
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melvster so i just add things by hand when i need to
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melvster say once a month
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elf-pavlik ok, this way you don't need any templating
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melvster havent had a need for it yet, maybe one day
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melvster i use templating in my chat app tho
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melvster 2 way data binding and web components
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melvster with a linked data back end
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melvster i think there's a good case for this group to standardize on linked data back ends before it goes to REC
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melvster first time in my life ... my android phone is actually useful! :D
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melvster elf-pavlik: https://linkeddata.github.io/profile-editor/?webid=http://melvincarvalho.com/%23me#/view
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melvster ill mainly use this profile editor to change things
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elf-pavlik cool!
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Loqi Benthatmustbeme made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/Social API/More user stories]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82641&oldid=82609
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elf-pavlik rhiaro, would you like to help with extracting vocabulary requirements from user stories? https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Vocabulary_TF#Mapping_API_User_Stories_to_Vocabulary_terms
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rhiaro elf-pavlik: yes, I can probably help with that!
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rhiaro Not today though
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elf-pavlik rhiaro, thanks! we have 90 stories - we can take some days for that
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rhiaro Also, if anyone happens to brainstorm about moving IG meetings from wednesday evenings, I would be able to attend them and maybe be more useful to the IG
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elf-pavlik rhiaro, when it would work for you?
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rhiaro Any evening but wednesday
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rhiaro Everything seems to be on wednesdays..
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Loqi Benthatmustbeme made 2 edits to [[Socialwg/Social API/Sorting user stories]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82655&oldid=82642
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melvster elf-pavlik: mailed fkooman
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tantek good morning #social
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elf-pavlik jaywink, hi
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jaywink hey elf-pavlik
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elf-pavlik would you like to join IG call starting in 7 min? IRC #socialig
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elf-pavlik we will speak shortly about coordinating with Diaspora and Friendica
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elf-pavlik https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig#Telecons
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jaywink sorry not possible atm, this is always a bad time of day for me, have to feed the kids etc
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jaywink so not this time :(
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elf-pavlik ok, we can catch up on IRC later on or just have 1on1 call some other daytime
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tantek it's too bad that socialIG isn't just using #social - I thought that was resolved a while ago
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elf-pavlik harry, #socialig?
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elf-pavlik tantek, trackers don't work this way!
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tantek elf-pavlik: then fix the tracker!
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cwebber2 hey, sorry for missing the call yesterday
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cwebber2 I was traveling to a family funeral :\
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cwebber2 well, from
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tantek sorry to hear that cwebber2. my condolensces.
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cwebber2 thanks tantek
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cwebber2 it was a good memorial at least, lots of good memories shared.
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Loqi Benthatmustbeme made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/Social API/Sorting user stories]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82657&oldid=82655
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ben_thatmustbeme categorizing these is getting to be more difficult than i though
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ben_thatmustbeme t*
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tantek hey nice work on https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Social_API/Sorting_user_stories
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elf-pavlik ben_thatmustbeme++
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme++ indeed!
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elf-pavlik tilgovi, will you attend face 2 face at MIT ?
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tilgovi Affirmative.
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elf-pavlik harry, tantek ^
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elf-pavlik action-40
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trackbot is looking up action-40.
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trackbot action-40 -- Harry Halpin to Invite annotations wg -- due 2015-03-03 -- OPEN
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trackbot http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/40
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tantek \o/
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tantek tilgovi: can you add yourself to https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-03-17#Participation with perhaps in parens (observer, Annotations WG) ?
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tilgovi sure
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elf-pavlik tantek, we need something like https://indiewebcamp.com/Template:Attendee
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tantek and add any food requirements / preferences
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elf-pavlik can you do some MediaWiki magic? :)
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tantek elf-pavlik: hah! let's go with simple parens for info-about until we see a pattern :)
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elf-pavlik could try http://vocab.deri.ie/rdforms/ :)
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elf-pavlik makes sense! tantek++
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elf-pavlik back on dev sprint on https://github.com/hackers4peace/plp-docs
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tantek coding++
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tantek implementing++
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elf-pavlik BTW we'll add rel="me" and IndieAuth for Portable Linked Profiles :)
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tantek great! then please add to http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists#Services_with_XFN_rel.3D.22me.22_to_multiple_external_sites
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tantek especially good if you permit users to have multiple rel="me" other profiles
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tantek bbiab
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ben_thatmustbeme Woo!
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ben_thatmustbeme done an initial pass. I ended up creating more buckets than originally planned
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