Loqi[Christopher Allan Webber] @ghost @davidsgallant @polymerwitch Aside from blocking, a flag on a user's profile might be a good approach. (A site could default to one or another setting and maybe also let users set the option.) Def understand some might not want to be searchab...
Loqi[Sandro Hawke] @Gargron and in practice, how can you stop broader search from being implemented by someone in an open system? If users want it, someone will provide it.
ajordanoffhand this discussion seems ridiculous to me. if you don't want things to be searchable you *have* to have some notion of privacy. can't just make them public
ajordanone is that the tool doesn't seem to have a way to opt-out of being searched or in other words, it doesn't have/respect something like robots.txt
ajordanwhat I meant was: the first one strikes me as a real problem. people should be able to control whether they're in search engines, even if there's no technical restriction to back up that control
ajordan*that's* what I meant when I said "there needs to be some notion of privacy" if that's the expectation. "privacy" here might mean "disallow in robots.txt is on by default" but like... idk
cwebberit's a tricky space. one instance pointed to "I don't want my posts to be indexed because I've tagged a lot of my stuff with trans stuff, and I don't want to be targeted for harassment"
cwebberthough, I think that maybe users should also be made more clearly aware that these systems are defaulting to "your stuff *is* out there and public"
cwebbertantek: I worked for 16 hours on monday and so after the call I got almost nothing done because I was pretty burnt out. I'll try to get up the wiki page
tanteke.g. one example was posting publicly to humans who would be reading my "feed" about people / personal things that people were ok with discussing publicly, but I didn't want to unintentionally affect their public "googling" search results
tantekajordan, I started my blog in 2002, blocking robots.txt for I think 2-3 years. It was a conscious decision at the time because I wanted more perceived freedom to experiment with what I felt comfortable posting, without immediately exposing everything to search results.
tantekI do remember when I flipped on robots I think it was either in 2004 or 2005, then eventually retroactive back to 2004; at the time I remember explicitly thinking that I would trade search engine surfacing of some technical posts for stopping posting some more personal posts
cwebberlooks like toot.cat is going whitelist-only on the nodes it's federating with, probably not the best route for me since I'm trying to spread information about federation amongst the fediverse
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@TT_SemWeb Linked Data Notifications https://www.w3.org/TR/ldn/, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/topic/RWW/semantic-web?s=tnp (twitter.com/_/status/859705201149825024)
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cwebber so an interesting thing has happened in the ostatusphere, esp on mastodon instances
ajordan sandro said exactly what I was thinking: https://mastodon.social/@sandhawke/4948160
tantek ajordan, cwebber well that was fast. Looks like https://cler.ical.ist/ is down. "404 page not found"
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