#wordpress 2017-07-30

2017-07-30 UTC
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[acegiak_net] I'm thinking about creating myself a plugin to queue posts so they get published in the future
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[acegiak_net] actually there's got to be a plugin for that already...
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prtksxna [acegiak_net]: Like buffer for wordpress?
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prtksxna [acegiak_net]: Do tell which plugin you end up using :)
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[miklb] WordPress has scheduled posts I thought
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[miklb] yep https://cdn.miklb.com/Add_New_Post__Miklbs_Mindless_Ramblings__WordPress_2017-07-30_06-41-58.png
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[acegiak_net] yeeah, but I want a queue I can just put posts and it works out the schedule for me
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[miklb] ah
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[acegiak_net] which apparently there are a couple of plugins for
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[acegiak_net] specifically, I'm learning to use a DSLR and have a lot of photos to share and so I want to break them up into groups of photos so they're not just one massive dump at once
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[miklb] that makes sense
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[jemostrom] @gwg sorry for the delay in commenting. Thanks - I made a faulty assumption when I asked the question … that I had two main sites, of course one site is the main site and the other one is like any other site
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GWG What are they for?
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[jemostrom] One is my main site, the other is going to be my short comments/silly stuff/experiment site (I find it easier to separate them than trying to making one site)
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GWG What goes on your main site?
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[jemostrom] Usually longer stuff, photos that are “good enough”, work stuff, etc
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GWG So, they are both representations of you.
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GWG I assume you'd put your h-card on the main site?
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[jemostrom] Yep, yesterday I thought of them being equals but today I consider the “other one” (I have no idea what I meant when I wrote “the other one is like any other site”) to be more like instagram, twitter, micro.blog and being a “secondary citizen”. Well, I’m slowly adding stuff when I think I’ve understood what the different things do (I never been fond of adding stuff before I understand them) … so I haven’t added that
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GWG Something has to represent your identity. You can have multiple sites, but it makes sense to have one that ties them all together.
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GWG So, how can I help you?
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Zegnat Just scrolling by: lots of people have such a set-up [jemostrom]! Chris (http://boffosocko.com/) keeps tweets on http://stream.boffosocko.com/, Kevin (http://www.kevinmarks.com/) has non-long-form content on http://known.kevinmarks.com/, Jeremy (https://www.jeremycherfas.net/) follows Kevin’s example https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/
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Loqi Chris Aldrich
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[jemostrom] Yep, my problem yesterday was that I thought I had two main sites (I don’t). So my question today is slightly different, when I’ve added the IndieWeb plugin to my main site and set it up (which I understand will create the h-card stuff), how should I configure the other site?
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GWG Set your author URL to the main site.
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[jemostrom] Thanks
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[jemostrom] One more question: To add a hcard it’s suggested that I use the “H-card widget”. I tried that but it adds visual elements that I prefer not to have have visible - I don’t like how it looks and some elements are already visible in the theme I use. Is there some other recommended way of doing this or should I just manually go in and change my child theme to include the hcard tags?
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GWG I wrote the h-card widget and I don't recommend it.
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[jemostrom] ?
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GWG I would say design something for yourself
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GWG We really need a better design
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[jemostrom] OK
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GWG I just bumped it up and would like to replace it
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GWG It doesn't belong where it is anyway.
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[jemostrom] Being a newbie I’m mostly surprised that this info is visible elements … I first thought that this would be something that would be invisible for the user (like a json file that contained the info and was referenced in the header … or something like that, I’m pretty sure it has to be more complex).
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GWG I really have to find someone with some ideas on a new one, to be honest
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[jemostrom] When I use https://indiewebify.me/send-webmentions/ to test webmentions, what should happen. I just get a blank page and nothing seem to happen on my site.
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aaronpk hrm that's odd
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aaronpk are you trying to test receiiving webmentions on your site?
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[jemostrom] I’m basically running through these tests to see if everything works - officially so to speak. A couple of days ago I tested between two of my sites and then things seemed to work OK.
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[jemostrom] So yes.
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aaronpk i think that tool sends webmentions *from* your site to things it links to, so sounds like that's not what you want anyway
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aaronpk the webmention.rocks test suite will generate comments and send you webmentions so you can use that https://webmention.rocks/receive/1
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Receiver Test #1
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[jemostrom] OK, thanks
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[miklb] GWG did you say your solution for photo posts from OYG was to offload the image and be able to load post_thumbnails? I want to start using responsive images for my photo posts.
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GWG Micropub already sideloads the image
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[miklb] I guess I need re-read difference between featured images and post_thumbnail
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tantek BTW this seems like a nice opportunity to improve h-recipe support in the wild: https://github.com/Automattic/jetpack/issues/4470 (per [chrisaldrich])
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] #4470 [Recipe] shortcode: add additional microformats support (v1 and v2)
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tantek also really appreciate this explanation in particular from [chrisaldrich] https://github.com/Automattic/jetpack/issues/4470#issuecomment-236025515
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] <a href="https://github.com/Automattic/jetpack/issues/4470#issuecomment-234266930" class="u-in-reply-to"></a>tl;dr: It's easy enough to support microformats v2 (and even backcompat for v1) and they don't/shouldn't create any conflicts so why not supp...
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[miklb] might want to ping kraft on that, though I think he’s still on holiday.
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tantek yeah, hence an opportunity to write an h-recipe support patch / pull request for that
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GWG [miklb]: There isn't one.
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GWG [miklb]: I thought he was back.
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[miklb] he might be, I’ve lost track of time.
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[miklb] Micropub doesn’t add an image as the featured image of a post,does it? I thought it just inserted it into the media gallery & inserted it into the post.
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GWG It doesn't, no. But I should check if it honors u-featured and sets that as the featured image/post thumbnail
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[miklb] yeah, I think that’s what I’m going to look at doing
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GWG https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/issues/24
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] #24 Support Featured Image (and other common WordPress functionality)
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GWG Not implemented
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[miklb] looks like you filter the content and convert an attachment to featured image
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