#wordpress 2018-02-24

2018-02-24 UTC
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j12t
Is there a situation where I might NOT want to install the IndieWeb plus Webmention + Semantic Linkback plugins all at the same time?
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tantek
install all the plugins!
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tantek
gives Loqi a nudge.
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Loqi
eyes the nudge.
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j12t
I'm basically wondering why there are so many. User has to install them separately, update them separately, and can make mistakes such as mistakenly turn one off.
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[asuh]
j12t: My understanding is that the plugins will slowly be combined where possible and hopefully removed once WordPress devs enter more of the mf2 classes into core. It’s been a battle of explaining why and how from my my reading. That said, I think even with so many plugins, there’s room for a better UX for this process
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j12t
asuh: that makes sense. For UBOS purposes, I wonder whether I should just declare a mandatory dependency between the indieweb plugin and a few others, and then the user will always get all and needs to do less work.
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[asuh]
j12t: I wouldn’t recommend this because, depending on the theme, you won’t need to activate all the plugins. You can find some Indieweb compatible themes that others have built and it would make at least one or two of the plugins redundant, such as the mf2 plugin.
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j12t
asuh: I understand. I meant to only ask about indieweb, webmention and semantic linkbacks
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[asuh]
Ah, that makes sense.
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[mrkrndvs]
GWG I tested 3.0.0 and photos are all good, also like how elements within response properties disappear when not in use. Is there anything else in particular that you would like me to test?
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GWG
[mrkrndvs]: No, I want to wrap up this version and release it and possibly work on new features in a second release."
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GWG
Anything else you want to propose?
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[mrkrndvs]
I was wondering, maybe dreaming, of a Bookmark / Like Bookmarklet that would allow me to select a piece of text and have this populated in the Summary / Quotation field. Just a thought ...
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[mrkrndvs]
Not sure that is anything to do with the plugin though ...
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GWG
It could be done
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[mrkrndvs]
[mikecaulfield] developed something similar for his Wikity theme
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GWG
People are split on bookmarklets nowadays
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[miklb]
j12t the IndieWeb plugin isn’t required, it is meant as a starting point and plugin installer for the other community plugins. It does offer some h-card support, but a user could create that themselves.
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[miklb]
Also keep in mind, except for the IndieWeb plugin and mf2 theme helper plugin, all of the IW plugins are personal projects, not community. So finding consensus on how to keep them working together but still be individually developed plugins is an ongoing conversation
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[miklb]
Unless someone were to take on the responsibility of merging all of the plugins and maintaining it, there will never be “one IW plugin to rule them all.”
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[miklb]
is [pfefferle]’s ZenPress making a child theme.
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[mrkrndvs]
Miklb I'm hoping so because nothing [chrisaldrich])
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[mrkrndvs]
And I have done can get a child theme working with ZenPress
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[mrkrndvs]
GWG I just used URL Forwarder to create a new post using the following link https://collect.readwriterespond.com/wp-admin/post-new.php?kind=bookmark&kindurl=@url and all that it gave me was the Post Kinds post properties box
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GWG
Yes? That's what it is supposed do, fill out those boxes automatically
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GWG
You want to make the post that way?
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GWG
I have a way to do that which is a bit tricky
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[mrkrndvs]
I thought it might be a mobile issue so clicked desktop site in the settings but still nothing. When I start a new post from scratch on phone it works fine
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[mrkrndvs]
There is no option to select kind
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[mrkrndvs]
I want it to fill out the boxes, but I can't even save a draft. I can't do anything
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GWG
Must have broken something in the redesign
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GWG
Opened an issue to remind me. Expect a fix within a day or two.
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[mrkrndvs]
No stress, just letting you know 👍 Thank you as always for your work
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GWG
[mrkrndvs]: I just tried ?kind=like&kindurl=URL and it worked exactly as it should
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GWG
So stumped
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[miklb]
I didn’t seem to have any problems with the latest code in the GitHub repo for creating a child theme with ZenPress. I am however going to build my stylesheet from the Sass files and modify that way, just use the existing markup/templates as much as possible.
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GWG
Hi, [miklb]
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GWG
[miklb]: Anything new?
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GWG
I'm finishing up Version 3.0 of Post Kinds.
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GWG
Pushing some things to a 3.1 release
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[miklb]
I really want to get my food blog up, thus why I decided to do a ZenPress child theme. Plus, it seems a lot cleaner looking than I remember it, so fits my aesthetic a lot more, so won’t need to tweak too much to get started. Then I’ll just keep tweaking the template & start working on a redesign of miklb.com
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[miklb]
that will probably all be custom code, cribbed from what I’ve already got & Zenpress/mf2 plugin
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[miklb]
I still want a stripped down mf2 theme as a starting point for other projects, so will complete that as part of my redesign.
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[miklb]
Then I’m going to tackle micropub.
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[miklb]
GWG what is your timeline of adding GitHub to the bridgy plugin? That’s also high on my itch list.
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GWG
[miklb]: After I finish this, I intend to look at an update to Bridgy
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GWG
That's why I'm not going as far as I wanted to.
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GWG
I think I'm ready to release 3.0
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GWG
Okay. Released
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GWG
Waiting for check before Wordpress.org release
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GWG
Then possible flood of angry emails
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Loqi
gwg has 43 karma in this channel (310 overall)
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GWG
++ on possible flood of angry emails?
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[miklb]
on a major release!
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GWG
"You changed the UI. How dare you? We'll sign a petition to put it back."
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GWG
Didn't some company just end up in that situation?
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[miklb]
you can point them to the last release of the plugin and suggest they fork it 🙂
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[miklb]
last release with the old UI
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GWG
Found a problem on upload
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[miklb]
did you break automatic updates?
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GWG
[miklb]: No, forgot to include a JS dependency
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GWG
Fixing it now
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[miklb]
lol I was joking about 4.9.3 WP release
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GWG
Still broken
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GWG
I think I know why
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GWG
It is still blocking the files in the ignore file
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GWG
This is my own fault for switching to dependency management
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GWG
I guess I have to bump the version number again
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GWG
Okay. Refreshed 3.0.1
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GWG
Hopefully that will do it