2018-04-21 UTC
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# 00:05 [unoabraham] Who can I ask for help with the Microformats 2 WordPress plug-in? [chrisaldrich] joined the channel
# 00:14 [unoabraham] Genesis Framework. # 00:14 [unoabraham] Dynamik Website Builder child theme. # 00:16 [unoabraham] Microformats 2 breaks the site, specifically the meta data. However, without it being enabled I cannot get backfeed working. # 00:16 [unoabraham] <span class='p-author h-card'>Rajiv Abraham</span> is the error. # 00:18 [unoabraham] That I can fix, however, when I enable the plug-in, it is also removing the permalink to the post. I kind of need the permalink as I'm not using titles for status Post formats. # 00:18 GWG It's a common issue, because of escaping filter output # 00:22 GWG I don't remember us doing anything to hide the permalink # 00:22 [unoabraham] Pugin enabled and it disappears. # 00:24 [unoabraham] Not a major issue, I have contacted the developer as I need some solution for permanent links to be created and shown in place of titles. This is for the WordPress Post formats that I'm not using titles for. # 00:24 [unoabraham] I've seen folks using date based permanent links. # 00:25 [unoabraham] So the above permanent link is actually Post ID/Post ID. # 00:30 [unoabraham] I thought I did the h-card correct, so I am not sure what the span class error is all about. # 00:30 GWG If you feel comfortable, remove the filters one by one # 00:31 GWG Basically, where ever it says add_filter, comment it out to determine which one # 00:31 GWG I may look into a better solution # 00:38 [unoabraham] How about the span class error? I'd prefer to get backfeed and hCards working. # 00:39 GWG We need to find a better solution # 00:47 GWG I wonder if the plugin needs a settings page # 00:51 [unoabraham] Would be easier for us non-developers, and folks like me who don't know how to use Git and GitHub. # 00:51 [unoabraham] The only reason I created an ID was for IndieAuth. # 00:52 [unoabraham] HTML and CSS is something I can get by with. PHP and code I'm totally out of my depth. # 00:53 GWG [unoabraham]: I'm going to see what ideas I have. I haven't looked at it in a while. # 00:53 GWG [unoabraham]: With the new IndieAuth plugin, you don't need Github # 00:55 [unoabraham] Yes, got that. I follow your blog and podcast. # 00:56 [unoabraham] Kind of a good thing for folks like me with multiple domains. Now just install the plugin for each website and no silo or GitHub verification is needed. # 00:57 GWG [unoabraham]: We've wanted it since 2014. tantek, [kevinmarks] and [stefp] joined the channel
# 10:33 [stefp] IndieAuth is not working for me because it’s looking for …/wp-json/indieauth/1.0/token and I don’t have a folder called wp-json # 10:33 [stefp] and good morning/afternoon [unoabraham] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 11:26 GWG [stefp]: That's the rest API, not a real folder [stefp] joined the channel
# 11:36 [stefp] Is there a step I’m missing? I get this error: {“error”:“invalid_request”,“error_description”:“Invalid code provided”} # 11:38 [stefp] Log into sites using IndieAuth plugin # 11:39 GWG What site are you trying to log into? # 11:39 [stefp] I’ve tried Quill and OwnYourGram # 11:40 GWG And you are using the default settings for the plugin? # 11:42 [stefp] I just activated it. Didn’t change anything. # 11:43 GWG And you are using your site url to log in? # 11:48 [stefp] just noticed the settings # 11:48 GWG Set them for the built in endpoint. # 11:48 [stefp] Local endpoint? # 11:50 [stefp] that’s giving the error # 11:50 GWG By the way, that error message is not in the plugin # 11:54 GWG In your user profile, what URL did you put in as your website? [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 11:55 GWG Also how comfortable are you with troubleshooting? # 11:56 [stefp] same as the one I’m trying to log in with # 11:56 [stefp] what sort of troubleshooting? # 11:57 GWG Welk, there is a way to log the requests in the server error log so we can see what they are # 11:58 GWG One thing, when it gives that message, what is the URL in the browser? # 12:00 [stefp] This is Quill h ttps://quill.p3k.io/auth/callback?code=r3rsfPJPVcSY20lLfYN9j5PRNULFxl8on5DlYtFqSG81YQOfQRfeHG60e0LfXyDYcDamTL4LGhjzXxMHi3Q3ZMhNGGm7pHCFh1DBiAKaDlMZffdBOdf9J2Knk6ck7xdq&state=1fae18ecc29f34ac # 12:11 GWG Let me check on mine for a second # 12:13 GWG It worked for me on my site using Quill. # 12:14 GWG Oddly, invalid_request is not a return error in either Quill or the WordPress IndieAuth plugin [unoabraham] joined the channel
# 12:17 [stefp] is the Local Endpoint part of the plugin? # 12:18 GWG [stefp]: You have two endpoints in your site. # 12:18 GWG One in the header, one in the footer. # 12:19 GWG Did you ever manually add <link rel="authorization_endpoint" href="https://indieauth.com/auth"> to things? # 12:22 [stefp] I have two links but in the footer # 12:22 [stefp] both work without the IndieAuth plugin # 12:24 GWG You are not using the Indieauth.com server. You are trying to use the built-in one # 12:24 GWG So it looks like it's confusing things # 12:26 GWG aaronpk: What should happen with multiple endpoints declared? # 12:27 [stefp] thanks for going through that again # 12:29 sknebel GWG: current spec says that the first rel encountered should be used # 12:30 GWG Which isn't what Quill did, it seemed to have used the last # 12:30 GWG Mine was in the header, his in the footer # 12:33 Loqi gwg has 53 karma in this channel (330 overall) # 12:35 sknebel seems so. I proposed failing when encountering multiple ones. might bring that back up. # 12:49 GWG Quill predated the spec, might just be unimplemented # 12:50 GWG That's why I mentioned aaronpk, so he might comment on that when he wakes # 13:41 aaronpk Sounds like I might need to update Quill and some of my older Micropub/IndieAuth clients # 13:56 GWG aaronpk, that's why I mentioned you. [snarfed], [kevinmarks] and [miklb] joined the channel
# 18:11 [miklb] hmm. I used Quill to reply to the Twitter URL of a POSSE’ed note and attach image and it didn’t work. The image isn’t in the reply note, but is in my media library. Is it because the micropub plugin doesn’t recognize images in replies, only photo posts? # 18:11 [miklb] I should test a regular note with an image to rule anything else I suppose. # 18:12 GWG It should, but let's see what you find. I haven't done much file testing # 18:14 [miklb] This is a good example of the fragility indieweb still posses. Not an indictment on anyone, just the nature. Should be kept in mind as we try to broaden the user base. # 18:19 [miklb] photo posted just fine as a note. So definitely in the reply side of the equation, and probably an edge case. # 18:19 GWG snarfed doesn't use the plugin much and I don't upload much, but I tested ownyourgram, which sideloads. # 18:20 [miklb] again, by no means do I hold anyone responsible. Just nature of the beast. # 18:23 GWG I have the scope PR for Micropub and might as well check this for possible repair before pushing 1.5 # 18:24 [miklb] I’m glad. I worry sometimes my kvetching at the cloud doesn’t come across as such. <insert Simpsons joke here> # 18:26 GWG [miklb]: I just took a walk, thought about privacy, and opened a bunch of issues for ideas in that vein to turn off things I built. # 19:00 GWG [miklb]: If someone doesn't want something for privacy reasons. And tools around deleting data # 19:03 [miklb] you could take the Facebook approach and let people know the deal and offer to delete the data with the plugin and not deal with all of the settings. # 19:10 GWG But who is asking for deletion? The site owner or the person who the data is about? The person who sent the mention? # 19:11 [miklb] ah. I still don’t get that. If someone sends me a letter in the mail replying to something I have written, they can’t come back later & ask for me to destroy the letter. Why should a comment be any different? # 19:12 GWG But you can send a webmention update that should honor a deletion request # 19:13 [miklb] meh. You can ask, but that doesn’t mean I have to delete it. # 19:13 GWG [miklb]: I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep trying to solve this problem. # 19:14 GWG But I want to be fair to those who do # 19:14 GWG It seems very important to some people # 19:15 [miklb] I’m all for privacy. I just don’t get why all of a sudden people are clamoring over whether a public response sent to someone is somehow “their data”. # 19:15 GWG I wake up, and I have 5 WordPress themed GPDR emails. # 19:16 GWG I go to work and have to sit in IT security workshops about GPDR # 19:16 GWG I come home...and webmentions are declared a privacy issue # 19:16 sknebel have people been mailing you about the indieweb plugins specifically? # 19:31 GWG It isn't at the top of my list, except I am brainstorming. # 19:31 GWG My next thing is the Indieweb plugin. I want to add a micro.blog field, as so many people are trying to do rel=me to Micro.blog [snarfed] and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
# 20:04 aaronpk Why not just provide a generic link field? Why do you have to add support specifically for micro.blog? # 20:05 GWG aaronpk: I have a generic link field. They can't find it. [miklb] joined the channel
# 20:20 [miklb] maybe instead of a new field, can some of the less used fields be collapsed? # 20:21 [miklb] oh, I see, it’s in a different section than the other profile fields. # 20:21 [miklb] I bet most people are looking for the field to add the URL near where they are setting their social media profiles. # 20:22 GWG I could always get rid of some of the other ones. # 20:22 [miklb] well, what about just moving that other URL field closer to where you add Twitter/FB/GitHub/etc # 20:23 GWG I don't why we have some of the ones that don't accept rel-me # 20:23 GWG The plugin adds github, googleplus, twitter, facebook, lastm, instagram, and flickr # 20:23 GWG I think that's the list petermolnar put in originally. He did the first push # 20:25 [miklb] I don’t see a problem linking ot other popular social profiles accepting rel=me or not. I’d just move that additional URL field into that same group rather than create a special field for micro.blog. Maybe add it as an example for the description “Sites not listed in the profile to add to rel-me (One URL per line) Example micro.blog” # 20:26 GWG You can't. That URL field is a textbox. The ones higher up are added to contact methods. # 20:26 GWG I could move the other stuff down, but not the extra field up # 20:27 GWG But, I would include anything that Bridgy or another Indieweb service supports. # 20:27 [miklb] what about the About Yourself section, does that have hook # 20:27 GWG Which is why I would consider removing last.fm # 20:28 GWG So, if someone builds a last.fm service used by Indieweb people... # 20:28 GWG Also, there is a filter to add your own. # 20:31 [miklb] I someday want my scrobbled music from last.fm displayed on my site again. I don’t necessarily want “listened to” posts for every song. [kevinmarks], tantek and [asuh] joined the channel
# 23:22 Loqi [web-scrobbler] web-scrobbler: Scrobble music all around the web! tantek, [tantek] and [snarfed] joined the channel
# 23:46 GWG [asuh]: There is still the ability to add any arbitrary URL. It just isn't at the top anymore tantek joined the channel
[unoabraham] Hi,
[chrisaldrich] Ask away. Which theme are you using with it?
GWG Comment this line out for now. https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-uf2/blob/master/includes/class-uf2-author.php#L13
[miklb] I don’t see a problem linking ot other popular social profiles accepting rel=me or not. I’d just move that additional URL field into that same group rather than create a special field for micro.blog. Maybe add it as an example for the description “Sites not listed in the profile to add to rel-me (One URL per line) Example micro.blog”
[asuh] I don’t know if this would do for last.fm but I use this to scrobble everything in my various browsers https://github.com/web-scrobbler/web-scrobbler