#wordpress 2018-04-25

2018-04-25 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Hey @gwg I was trying to go through each program and realized something broke for me with Indieauth still trying to figure out what changed
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[jgmac1106] You are hopefully long in bed and we can catch up in the morning
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Long in bed?
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GWG Why would you think that?
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jgmac1106 In a momentary loss of thought I oplaced you east of the Prime Meridian., but its NYC correct?
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jgmac1106 Not like you keep some kind of cool card on your website that would let me find out
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jgmac1106 brb going to go chat with Matt
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jgmac1106 Matt: here is the protocol…I just typed this up. Thanks for letting me test out the questions. Want to make this as painless as possible for participants
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jgmac1106 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/04/25/possible-interview-questions
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[matthilt] Sure that sounds great.
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[matthilt] Do you want me just to type out the answers or do you want to do a call still?
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[matthilt] I just realized I took out my location from the contact card I think.
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jgmac1106 @matthilt I was talking to @gwg. I had a brain fart and mixed up his 1020
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GWG I'm in NY. I was just up early this morning
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GWG jgmac1106: I work with a company in Europe.
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GWG That's why things get confusing.
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jgmac1106 GWG: You and Europe are the only one’s up with me sometimes
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jgmac1106 thx @matthilt for joining me
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GWG My insomnia is not something I should brag about.
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[matthilt] No problem [jgmac1106]. I appreciate your time.
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jgmac1106 of course I forgot to ask about ideas you had that could make thigns better, feel free to add them to the wiki page where I am collecting and posting data and thoughts
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[matthilt] Ok. Is that the onboarding link you posted before?
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[matthilt] I just want everyone to know that [jgmac1106] said I could ask questions so if I'm annoying you its really his fault.
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[miklb] ask away. and if you start your question with “what is…” Loqi may have a wiki link for you
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[miklb] what is wordpress
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[matthilt] what is post kinds plugin
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Loqi The Post Kinds Plugin is a WordPress plugin that adds support for responding and interacting with other sites to WordPress https://indieweb.org/Post_Kinds_Plugin
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Loqi WordPress is open source CMS software used by many on the Indieweb as well as a blog hosting service https://indieweb.org/WordPress
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[matthilt] The Post Kinds Plugin's Reply function. Is it meant for replying to blogs or other silos like Twitter or both?
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /WordPress/Onboarding (+1062) "Adding first user interview" (view diff)
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jgmac1106 @matthilt I meant to ask after you learned you needed an h-card how did you go about installing one?
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jgmac1106 Did you use the widget? Another method?
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[matthilt] I ended up hard coding it to the footer on the child theme.
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jgmac1106 thank you. I will add that to here: https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Onboarding If you feel my summary doesn’t reflect our conversation feel free to add
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[matthilt] As of today I use the widget. Just saw that today.
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jgmac1106 also feel free to just add any recommended changes you would make to either the onboarding process or to getting started documentation
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[miklb] [matthilt] yes, the reply can be to any URL.
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[matthilt] [miklb] For Twitter though I'd still have to have something like Bridgy post it to Twitter correct?
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[miklb] correct
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[matthilt] [jgmac1106] OK thanks. I'm heading for bed soon, but I'll look at it tomorrow. I'm sure I wasn't misquoted 🙂
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /WordPress/Onboarding (+148) (view diff)
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[matthilt] Bridgy ended up posting both the original message and the reply. So the format was weird.
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[matthilt] So it looks great on the blog, but bad on twitter.
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[jgmac1106] just always offer my interviewees a chance at a member check, thanks it was fun
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[matthilt] I understand Gary. I enjoyed my time as well.
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[miklb] Im
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[miklb] I’m about to turn in myself, but will need to look at what theme and the mf2 used.
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[matthilt] No worries. I'll play with it tomorrow some.
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[miklb] might need the modification I made to my reply kind templates to work with the Twitter embed. I don’t recall if that made it into the latest version or not. the `u-url` needs to be on the embed Twitter url.
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jgmac1106 Can not figure out why I am getting “Did Not Receive a Valid Authorization Endpoint” using IndieAuth
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sknebel what gives you that error when?
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GWG What sknebel said.
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jgmac1106 @gwg @skenbel When I try to log into https://jgregorymcverry.com/wp-admin
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GWG jgmac1106: Are you trying to use the 'login via domain' option?
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jgmac1106 Yes, and it must be a WP issie use a different blog to log into indigienous @skenbel (that works) and I can use jgregorymcverry.com to log into indigenous
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GWG Why would you use a site to log into itself.
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sknebel with what site are you trying to log in?
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jgmac1106 @gwg not sure, it has always worked for me. I logged into my domain with my domain. I would authenticate with Twitter
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GWG jgmac1106: Did you set up the built-in IndieAuth endpoint?
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jgmac1106 @gwg yes I tried buth the indieauth endpoint and the local endpoint
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GWG The IndieAuth endpoint would log in via Twitter. The local one logs in via WordPress
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sknebel IndieAuth.com
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jgmac1106 currently using the indieauth endpoints
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jgmac1106 have to head to campus, will try to figure it out later. Its just a log in and I have five other ways to do it
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sknebel if I go to that login page, click "sign in with your domain", put in "https://jgregorymcverry.com" it sends me to Indieauth.com like it should. does it fail after that?
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Loqi Greg McVerry
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GWG It shouldn't.
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[jgmac1106] Yes. I don't get the message about missing endpoints until it goes back to WP from authorizing using what ever third party I am using to authenticate (usually Twitter, all my other choices went away
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[jgmac1106] Will record a gif when I get to campus. Sitting in my kids school parking lot now
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[matthilt] @GWG I tried a webmention, but I don't know if I've botched something on my site. I just wanted to say thank you for the update to how you set your blog up. Its helpful.
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[jgmac1106] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAC7Z5H8Q/indieauth.gif?pub_secret=6e76cbda56&name=indieauth.gif Here is what happens
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[jgmac1106] Here are my settings https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAC80PCSC/screen_shot_2018-04-25_at_10.25.32_am.png?pub_secret=c22dad31df&name=Screen Shot 2018-04-25 at 10.25.32 AM.png
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[matthilt] Indeweb Plugin H-Card Widget is it only for posts or for the home page as well? I can only get it onto posts.
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jgmac1106_ @matthilt stick the hcard widget in a sidebar (which you don't use I recall) or the header and the footer. Given that you already hard coded your h-card into your child theme's footer means you should be all set.
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jgmac1106_ @unoabraham I was able to gather a user interview from @matthilt and filled the new to WP and indieweb box. Would be willing to do an interview as a skilled WP user new to some indieweb stuff?
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[matthilt] [jgmac1106] It apparently only shows on the individual article pages not the home page when I do that.
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[matthilt] I may just use the hcard creator and do a custom HTML widget.
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[matthilt] Nevermind. Somehow I have two Author H-Card Widgets and one will only go on article pages.
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jgmac1106_ I just checked your page looks like you put in a right sidebar and dropped an h-card widget there
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tantek jgmac1106++ for doing https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Onboarding !
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GWG By the way, you can use the h-card function in a theme if you wanted to.
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[matthilt] I just ended up using a Custom HTML widget so I could format it like I wanted to.
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[matthilt] I’m still not comfortable editing themes yet.
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GWG [matthilt]: The goal of the h-card widget was to make it easy. Plenty of people like to code their own
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GWG Now that I'm in for the evening....how may I help?
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[matthilt] @GWG How would I edit the spacing of the widget? That's part of the problem. The other part is it only shows my name and location, nothing else.
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GWG [matthilt]: What do you want it to show?
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GWG I'd like to enhance it
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[matthilt] actually just my email address.
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[matthilt] that's all I'd like to currently add.
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GWG [matthilt]: https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/issues/101
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Loqi [dshanske] #101 Optional email for h-card
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GWG I've noted that
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[matthilt] Thanks
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[matthilt] If I were to be crazy and wanted to edit the code of the widgit, which file would that be?
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GWG [matthilt]: If it is on the list in Github...whenever I'm looking to do something, I tend to review
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[miklb] I assume that’s the widget you are referring to
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[miklb] [matthilt] https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/blob/master/includes/class-hcard-author-widget.php
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[matthilt] That would be correct. Thanks.
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[miklb] you should be able to pull the email address from the existing user profile field
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GWG [miklb]: You can. I just never added that feature
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[matthilt] And its over my head. I'll let you guys continue to be the programmers.
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk Loqi you're the best
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[matthilt] Loqi is a bot correct?
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[matthilt] That was amazing
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GWG [matthilt]: I will try to do that for you. Not everyone wants it
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[matthilt] I get it. Its not a big deal. The custom HTML does it for me.
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[matthilt] At some point if there was a way to just let us check mark the info we wanted included in the H card, that might be cool. But if I'm the only one that's said anything, it should be fine as it is.
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GWG [matthilt]: I wanted to do that
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[matthilt] ok
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GWG [matthilt]: what else are you looking for?
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[matthilt] Maybe the bio from a user's profile?
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[matthilt] Basically to make the indiewebify.me h-card validation come back without something else to fill in.
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GWG [matthilt]: A lot of that stuff is optional. You don't need an email
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GWG But I should allow any of the details.
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[matthilt] I know. I just looked at it as an easy way to display that info for contact info. However I just figured out how to add my email it to the rel=me widget so, that may prove unnecessary for me.
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GWG [matthilt]: But if it is a feature people want...
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[matthilt] I just wouldn't want to be the only example of the people you speak of.
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[matthilt] Especially if you are doing other work which I imagine you are.
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GWG [matthilt]: I put everything on the list for future
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[matthilt] OK, well I do appreciate the work you put in on this.
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[matthilt] I hope others do as well
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aaronpk I like to think that every person who speaks up about a problem represents at least 10 others who had the same problem but didn't say anything
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GWG aaronpk: Exactly.
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GWG [matthilt]: I appreciate that people enjoy the work.
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[unoabraham] Yeah sure.
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GWG [unoabraham]: Sure what?
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[unoabraham] jgmac1106 wanted me to answer some questions on WP and IndieWeb.
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GWG [unoabraham]: Any time
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GWG [unoabraham]: Did the update to Microformats 2 help you?
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[unoabraham] I did not check it. Update to the plugin or on GitHub?