#wordpress 2018-05-16
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[chrisaldrich] That u-photo thing pops up once a month. There are so many wp related things that can go wrong to cause it.
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jgmac1106 Except it didn’t work. The like post-kind came put as an article: https://jgregorymcverry.com/txti-fast-web-pages-for-everybody/
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[wiobyrne] I'm slowly getting better at using my breadcrumbs site to share out links/bookmarks with a little bit of commentary and a pull quote. I like how the comments/discussion come back to the post.
# [wiobyrne] The post kinds bookmark bar works for me. I also set up IFTTT to create drafts when I bookmark something in Pinboard or Pocket. But, when that system requires some monkeying with the URLS.
# [wiobyrne] I wish I could use the image URL that WordPress pulls in the details as the featured image for my post. Or, at least share/upload the featured image using the URL. For now, I'm opening the post/image in a new tab, downloading and re-uploading. It's time...but, it's time.
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[xavierroy] [wiobyrne] I use Zapier to pull images
# [xavierroy] I use that to PESOS to my site for my book data and movie data. Some info here: https://zapier.com/blog/updates/662/wordpress-integrations
# [wiobyrne] @gwg I get a URL in that details box in post kinds.
# [wiobyrne] Thanks [xavierroy] I'll check it out.
# [wiobyrne] For now, I'm sharing bookmarks and include an image from the original as the featured image on my post.
# [wiobyrne] If there was a way to copy/paste that link over to the featured image it would save some time. But, as of now, I'm still thoroughly enjoying the experience. It forces me to reopen the source, read/skim, pull quote and image, and post.
# [wiobyrne] Absolutely. Totally understand.
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# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] I added an exclude feature image to most post_kinds. Have you tried a MicroPub client like Quill yet?
# [jgmac1106] My post kind bookmark bar doesn't publish to the correct post_kind
# [jgmac1106] @gwg if you install press this plug in it includes indieweb bookmarklets for post kinds
# [jgmac1106] Has a bookmarklet for most post kinds. Think [schmarty] built them
# [jgmac1106] I did not know that. That clears up the confusion. Is he is using them as categories?
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# [jgmac1106] Do you know what MicroPub clients best support post-kinds?
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[mrkrndvs] [jgmac1106] have you read this post from [chrisaldrich] https://boffosocko.com/2017/01/10/browser-bookmarklets-and-mobile-sharing-with-post-kinds-plugin-for-wordpress/ it helped me
# [jgmac1106] I haven't and this is great. I will go through all the bookmarklets tomorrow and update (grades due today)
# [jgmac1106] Though Indigenous will be [chrisaldrich] go to Android solution rather than his work around
# [jgmac1106] Thx, @gwg once I get my endpoints sorted I will try a few [wiobyrne] you may prefer them over press this
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# [chrisaldrich] [wiobyrne] You might also try a simple plugin like https://wordpress.org/plugins/external-url-featured-image/ which you can use as a stopgap until the post kinds plugin handles featured images natively
# [chrisaldrich] When it does, you should then be able to disable the plugin and, without any loss of continuity, the post kinds will handle the image instead of the stopgap plugin. Then you'll only need to copy/paste the image URL (unless you wire up something separately).
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# [wiobyrne] Agreed. I tried a different plugin, and it didn't work correctly. I'll test this one out. I could just copy/paste the URL that is getting scooped up by the post kinds plugin.
# [chrisaldrich] It'll also cut down drastically on the amount of data/storage on your install (if you're self-hosting) though it does make you more reliant on the original page staying up.
# [wiobyrne] That was one of the challenges that I saw. There were complaints online about the original going down, and then you lose the image.
# [wiobyrne] Too bad there isn't a way to save it with the Internet Archive using Amber.
# [wiobyrne] It looks like Amber hasn't been updated in some time. https://wordpress.org/plugins/amberlink/
# [chrisaldrich] What is archive?
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Loqi archive in the context of the indieweb refers to date-grouped (often monthly) sets of posts (AKA personal historical archives, a common form of navigation), but can sometimes mean archival copy, a copy of a web page made (often by someone other than the author) at a particular point in time https://indieweb.org/archive
# [chrisaldrich] what is archival copy?
# Loqi An archival copy is a copy of a web page made (often by someone other than the author) at a particular point in time, that can be used as a reference if the original disappears or is temporarily unavailable https://indieweb.org/archival_copy
# [wiobyrne] Having the image URL pull from an archived copy of the website on the Internet Archive...as opposed to the original.
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe I documented it somewhere else... I use https://wordpress.org/plugins/post-archival/ to send URLs of things I post to the Internet Archive
# [wiobyrne] I was using Amber. Will switch over.
# [chrisaldrich] Then I rely on https://wordpress.org/plugins/broken-link-checker/ to find broken ones and it has a mechanism for fixing/replacing.
# [chrisaldrich] I've tried to get broken link checker to integrate the first part so they can control the entire loop, but still waiting....
# [wiobyrne] Do you have a post in which you document all of the plugins you use with Wordpress?
# [wiobyrne] ..and how you use them? 🙂
# [chrisaldrich] I should do that one day, but the next closest thing I've got is a collection of posts: https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/
# [wiobyrne] Thanks. I'll keep stalking, skimming, and learning.
# [chrisaldrich] [wiobyrne] for your breadcrumb site you might appreciate: http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/31/pressforward-as-an-indieweb-wordpress-based-rss-feed-reader-pocketinstapaper-replacement/
# [wiobyrne] I would love to pull some of you on a YouTube video and have you do a behind the scenes tour of your website...and the processes/tools you use to make things happen.
# [chrisaldrich] It's got a lot of moving parts, but it's also incredibly interesting and powerful.
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe it's time for a new virtual Homebrew Website Club meeting? We could do just that?
# [wiobyrne] That would be awesome.
# [chrisaldrich] Which timezone are you in [wiobyrne]?
# [wiobyrne] I've done "guided tours" for others (and my students) where I show them how I use Google Docs, Slides, etc. I've also had that where I bring in other experts.
# [wiobyrne] I'm east coast. Charleston, SC.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been meaning to do something similar to an online office hours after I saw https://knight.domains/thinkdeeper/open-domains-lab/ a few weeks back.
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# [jgmac1106] I will be your Huckleberry. [wiobyrne] if you also want to contribute we need to chop up [chrisaldrich] awesome video into segments for each plug in
# [jgmac1106] Though @gwg suggested we wait as big changes coming
# [wiobyrne] I think there is value in pulling in individuals to "show how they work."
# [jgmac1106] Massive value
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] don't chop too heavily... I'll try to do some new shorter segment ones sometime this week.
# [wiobyrne] What are the tools, processes, etc. What is the thinking, purpose, etc,
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tools, processes, etc. What is the thinking, purpose, etc," yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "tools, processes, etc. What is the thinking, purpose, etc, is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] haven't gotten there. Figured we could haw onboarding pow wow at Summit
# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] if you can do airfare I can cover room
# [chrisaldrich] maybe time to make some more posts in my What I Use series.... https://boffosocko.com/tag/what-im-using/
# [jgmac1106] @gwg also suggested big changes down the pipe
# [wiobyrne] I always find value in those...but I spend too much time building, breaking, and trying to find a better way.
# [jgmac1106] I stole [wiobyrne] Four question format that he stole from someone else
# [chrisaldrich] what is hwc?
# Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a bi-weekly meetup of people passionate about or interested in creating, improving, building, designing their own website, in the same structure as the classic Homebrew Computer Club meetings https://indieweb.org/hwc
# [wiobyrne] Also guide students and believe that I need to fully understand before I teach them. My motto is, "what would this look like if it was simple?"
# [jgmac1106] We could set up a virtual HWC be awesome
# [wiobyrne] I saw that there was a WordPress meetup in Charleston a couple of weeks ago. I've been meaning to reach out to the local coding camps/clubs to see what others are doing.
# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] what is your time zone?
# [wiobyrne] But, a virtual HWC would be cool.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm in Los Angeles.
# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] I am working with my Chamber of Commerce to start up a HWC for small business but has to wait until after July
# [jgmac1106] You get up early then
# [jgmac1106] Yes a virtual HWC with week one being a tour under each of our hoods
# [chrisaldrich] How does Wed 5/30 look like for everyone? I can do something after 3:30pm Pacific through the evening.
# [jgmac1106] Would have to be after 8:30 edt for me and dependant on baseball schedule
# [wiobyrne] My issue is always dinner/bedtime and the kids.
# [chrisaldrich] children can certainly impinge on one's Indieweb /itches....
# [wiobyrne] They just don't get it. 😉
# [chrisaldrich] "papa, why are you always on your computer?"
# [chrisaldrich] of course we could do something earlier during the day too, I've got some flexibility.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm also a night owl, so I don't mind staying up later either.
# [wiobyrne] Yeah, my son wants to be a YouTube star and create Minecraft videos. I think I might just let him.
# [jgmac1106] F that make him sit and unwrap toys or eggs
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# [chrisaldrich] I still remember Vi Hart giving it all up and she had a nice cottage industry as a teen: https://twitter.com/vihartvihart/status/597497587113951232
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@vihartvihart I am so glad I decided not to pursue cultivating a fandom, "growing my channel", monetization, branding, etc. I like my current job better. (twitter.com/_/status/597497587113951232)
# [wiobyrne] I'll be back. Off to another research meeting. 🙂
# [jgmac1106] Okay let's shoot for 5/30 after our kids in bed 8:30-9:00 edt
# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] trying to make #indieweb my research agenda. We will see
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# [chrisaldrich] I'm off for a bit too. I'll put together an event post for that day/time.
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# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] Here's the event/details: https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/16/virtual-homebrew-website-club-meetup-on-may-30-2018/
# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] Can you post that to LRA listserv
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# [chrisaldrich] post kinds plugin adds microformats to the stuff it handles directly. Those like h-entry and h-feed are typically handled by either WP core or the particular theme.
# [chrisaldrich] each of the templates will give you an idea of some of what is included: https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/tree/master/views
# [chrisaldrich] As an example, likes add the correct p- or u-like-of as well as the correct h-card data for the author and u-photo u-url pieces for the author of the post one has interacted with
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# [jgmac1106] thx [chrisaldrich] using your post to try and update press this plug ins for post-kinds
# [jgmac1106] and I foget what platform I am typing into again
# [chrisaldrich] reminds me that I need to update my bookmarklets to support my new https set up....