#wordpress 2018-05-17
2018-05-17 UTC
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[jgmac1106] hey @gwg
# [jgmac1106] yeah awful but if it holds through the weekend I might get two Saturdays in a row
# [jgmac1106] @gwg can I look at your .htaccess file? I know I can't copy and paste that but just want to see more examples
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[xavierroy] [wiobyrne] try https://wordpress.org/plugins/external-media/
# [xavierroy] This saves the image onto your Media gallery so that you have a copy even if the original one goes down
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[wiobyrne] Thanks a ton [xavierroy]. I'll check it out in the AM. :)
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# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] Are your webmentions working based on my curl test you have the same header issue I do so i am wondering it is a Reclaim hosting problem
# [jgmac1106] If your webmentions I want to peak at your .htaccess file to see if it is different than mine
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# [jgmac1106] I meant publishing with MicroPub not webmentions, mixing up my Known and Wordapress problems
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# [wiobyrne] Not sure if my webmentions are working. In my initial tests of my two sites, I can send out posts...and get comments/notifications to come back to my site when posted out in the socials. How do I test to see if the webmentions are working?
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[pfefferle] you can test it with webmention.rocks
# [wiobyrne] On it. Begin testing now. 💥
# [jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] after that please go to https://quill.p3k.io and let me know if you can publish to your WordPress site
# [jgmac1106] and [aaronpk] [tantek] spent a long time thinking about how webmentions.rocks could actually be modified to be a badging platform where a badge is nothing more than a webmention with a permalink back to criteria and submitted evidence.....I really think theoretically it could work.
# [wiobyrne] Okay, stupid question. I RSVP'ed using post kinds to the Virtual Homebrew meetup using my site. The original post from [chrisaldrich] is showing that I like his post because of Twitter. But, how do I have that RSVP show up on the original site?
# [jgmac1106] do you have the rsvp post-kind active
# [jgmac1106] [gwg] [chrisaldrich] I just noticed that even though I have "Show a Webmention form at the comment section, to allow anyone to notify you of a mention." checked this box doesn't show up on notes.
# [jgmac1106] is that normal for SemPress? Anyone know
# [wiobyrne] I think I'm getting it. I copy/pasted my URL to Chris's post. It gave me an error, but said that the webmention worked. I'm showing up as attending on the post...but my image/avatar is now showing.
# [pfefferle] [jgmac1106] no it is not normal… do you use the JetPack comment feature?
# [jgmac1106] no, but I can uninstall jetpack and see if that fixes
# [jgmac1106] @wibyrne you have webmentions plug-in and rsvp post-kind
# [jgmac1106] you din't need to use that box. You got an error because the webmention was already there
# [jgmac1106] I have been trying to think about the wording on that box, it is a common issue. People don't know when their webmentions will work or when they have to add a webmention in the comment box. Need to tweak the language a bit
# [pfefferle] what is the URL of your page?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "URL of your page" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "URL of your page is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [pfefferle] ok, it is no css problem
# [pfefferle] do you have a caching plugin on your site?
# [pfefferle] hmmm… will have a look later today
# [pfefferle] hmmm, works good on my test page https://ichmagdiesen.link/2017/08/29/matt-mullenweg-we-called-it-gutenberg-for-a-reason/#respond
# [pfefferle] do you also use the webmention-forms plugin?
# [pfefferle] ok
# [pfefferle] hmmm
# jgmac1106 @wiobyrne I think what you needed this to say If you don’t use indieweb technologies you can still send me a webmention. Write and post soemthing on your blog, website, or social media. Then paste the link below. Your webmention will show up as a comment. Want to update or remove your webmention? First Update or delete your post. Then repost the link below. To learn how to bring the indieweb to your blog check out th
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# jgmac1106 [pfereffele] has this: To respond on your own website, enter the URL of your response which should contain a link to this post's permalink URL. Your response will then appear (possibly after moderation) on this page. Want to update or remove your response? Update or delete your post and re-enter your post's URL again. (Learn More)
# [wiobyrne] Yeah, I think my RSVP is showing up now. I didn't know that I needed to copy/paste it over. I thought it happened automagically like some other things here. 🙂
# [wiobyrne] It appears to be working...my avatar isn't showing up appropriately...but still learning.
# [pfefferle] [jgmac1106] to be sure… is the box not working (technically) or do you think it is not a good feature?
# [pfefferle] no
# [pfefferle] no
# [pfefferle] the only thing you need is the webmention plugin
# [pfefferle] nothing more
# [pfefferle] that is a point
# [pfefferle] but everything else is really simple
# jgmac1106 Okay then I would say: If you would like to send a <a href=“#”>webmention> to me but do not have an inidieweb powered site you still can. rite and post soemthing on your blog, website, or social media. Then paste the link below. Your webmention will show up as a comment. Want to update or remove your webmention? First Update or delete your post. Then repost the link below. To learn how to bring the indieweb to you
# [pfefferle] I would not use the word webmention
# [pfefferle] and you also do not have to know anything about the indieweb
# [pfefferle] no it is not
# [pfefferle] i think it is a simple form
# [pfefferle] you do not have to
# [pfefferle] I have merged the plugin into the webmention plugin
# [pfefferle] Understood, perhaps you can file a bug where we can brainstorm about a good wording...
# [pfefferle] And/or we can make the wording editable... so that site admins can change the text to fit their needs
# jgmac1106 this is a crap message can it be changed: Warning: trim() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in /homepages/32/d491429024/htdocs/boffoblog/wp-content/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/includes/class-linkbacks-mf2-handler.php on line 164
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[chrisaldrich] [xavierroy]++ for the recommendation about the External Media plugin yesterday. A slick and useful little tool. https://wordpress.org/plugins/external-media/
# [chrisaldrich] Another thing that [wiobyrne] may have run into with his RSVP is that I do use a caching plugin, so the page may not have updated immediately.
# [chrisaldrich] I used to moderate all comments, but so many people had issues wondering if their webmentions were sending properly, I quit moderating.
# [chrisaldrich] [wiobyrne] It looks like your RSVP didn't have an avatar on it because the h-card on your site is missing a nested image with a u-photo.
# [chrisaldrich] The easiest way to remedy it may be to add the h-card widget to your page if you're using the IndieWeb Plugin.
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# [chrisaldrich] also, if one can "guess" someone's email address (that was used for their gravatar account), one can enter that address into the email field and gravatar will pull the correct image; which I've done in your instance.
# [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] If you're still having webmention backfeed issues from brid.gy and it's not a webmention specific problem with your host, you might try refreshing your brid.gy account(s)
# [chrisaldrich] I also remember there used to be an issue with Brid.gy finding your feed if it didn't appear on your homepage, so at one point I remember putting <link rel="feed" type="text/html" href="http://boffosocko.com/blog/" /> into my header so that brid.gy could find my feed page.
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# [wiobyrne] Absolutely. Thanks again [xavierroy] ++
# [wiobyrne] I think it's an issue with the h-card widget. I assumed it was working...thanks to my theme, but I think that is not the case.
# [wiobyrne] I've been playing a bit more with my newsletter/wordpress issues. MailPoet is nice, and still playing with The Newsletter Plugin. These two will allow me to create posts in WordPress and distribute, but the URL is a jumble even worse than what Mailchimp sends out. And, the "archives" page is the same list of links on a page.
# [wiobyrne] What I want is a blog post that contains all of the content that I had in the newsletter issue...and this post/content is sent out each week like a newsletter to subscribers.
# [wiobyrne] All links would track back to my blog post and URL.
# [wiobyrne] I could type up all of the content in one post, and use newsletter tool to distribute, but the URL will still be messy, and the display of the newsletter content is truncated.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been experimenting lately with MailChimp and looked at setting up fliprss to provide some additional flexibility. Still have a lot to explore after some initial hiccups with mailchimp as it looks like I'd gotten a lot of spam signups.
# [wiobyrne] Let me know how it goes with FlipRSS. It looks interesting. Spam signups are always an issue.
# [chrisaldrich] fliprss seems overly onerous in terms of getting things set up and then has a monthly fee thereafter. I'm more tempted to write up something myself over their solution.
# [wiobyrne] I've thought about adding in a "cleaning" every year to cull the herd. Another issue is emails automatically going to spam/clutter/all mail folders.
# [chrisaldrich] If I was more reliant on a newsletter and had income from it I wouldn't mind a monthly fee so much, but I'm not sure if it's going to be worth the cost in the end.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm adding it as an alternate for friends/family as I wean myself away from so much syndication to silos...
# [chrisaldrich] But I'd like to offer something with flexibility for filtering out a lot of the extraneous social stuff that's in my main feed.
# [wiobyrne] My thinking is that the blog post of newsletter content would create an archive that people can actually use...and possibly follow on my blog. Finding the archive link in Mailchimp is almost impossible. And, if you don't subscribe, or don't see it come through the socials when I send it out once a week...it's gone.
# [wiobyrne] But, if I have the content living as a blog post...there is some serendipity in the model as people can come across my site, peruse content, etc.
# [wiobyrne] I agree about the extraneous feed and noise. My breadcrumbs site is "everything" I'm reading or thinking about. The newsletter is focused for a specific audience.
# [wiobyrne] I'd even be happy with a simple copy/paste from the newsletter to a WordPress post if the formatting wasn't such a mess. Even then...I'd lose any feedback through my IndieWeb tools.
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# [jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] will try thanks
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[jeremycherfas] [wiobyrne] I do it the manual till it hurts way. Copy and paste to Mailchimp and my WP site, so the site contains a complete archive of all newsletters.
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# [wiobyrne] [jeremycherfas] do you have issues with the frames and excess content/code garbling up everything?
# [jeremycherfas] No. But I literally copy and paste. I originate as Markdown and then paste the html into WP and my newsletter template.
# [wiobyrne] So, you start everything in markdown and then copy over from each?
# [wiobyrne] I think that might be my option. Any preferred tools for markdown?
# [jeremycherfas] Byword and Marked2 and take the html from Marked2
# [jeremycherfas] Bedtime now. I’ll be around tomorrow.
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