#wordpress 2018-05-31

2018-05-31 UTC
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GWG Finished a PR during quiet writing hour
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GWG I know it wasn't the point
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tantek nice work GWG
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tantek I think a PR counts as "writing" :)
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GWG tantek: I made someone unhappy by removing gravatar dependence from webmentions without avatars. I had to fix that
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GWG WordPress and Gravatar really annoys me
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[chrisaldrich] oops... i updated SL and it looks like instead of being too aggressive, it made all my avatars disappear! Now they're just names with hyperlinks.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Did you update webmentions?
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GWG If you didn't, they will vanish.
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tantek GWG just got a new user here HWC SF of WP Webmentions!
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GWG tantek: Any way I can help?
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tantek we'll find out!
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It's all the privacy based changes.
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[chrisaldrich] yeah, I updated all the things....
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[chrisaldrich] lemme doublecheck though...
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Go look at the webmention settings page and make sure show avatars is checked, and check your default avatar as well
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[chrisaldrich] I'd tried that too... maybe I'll uninstall webmentions and then reinstall...
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jgmac1106 [chrisalrdich] go put your database back to default maybe that is tripping it up
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jgmac1106 [tantek] post a link to their blog. we will send a webmention
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] what do you mean by that?
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jgmac1106 [chrisaldrich] gonna go to dev just as their maybe new wordpress people tonight
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[chrisaldrich] okay... deleting/reinstalling, changing settings, clearing caches didn't work so far... hmmm.
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[chrisaldrich] oops.. accidentally updated post kinds and made all kinds of breaking changes... there goes the night... but I suppose I need to update all of that stuff anyway.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Sorry.
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jgmac1106 The joys of WordPress what works today will break tommorow and what we fix today will break what worked yesterday
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GWG jgmac1106: I keep breaking people's sites.
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jgmac1106 again why I think let’s take inventory of all plug-ins and decide what should live in a theme (microformats, semantic linkbacks, post kinds) anything that does not need an outside shoudl be kept inside.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, the problem with post kinds wasn't your fault, it was mine for running a slightly forked version that really needs to be brought back into general alignment.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I meant the avatar thing
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GWG Gravatar being nested so deeply into WordPress annoys me
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[chrisaldrich] I meant to port over some templates that I hardcoded directly into code.
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[chrisaldrich] I just need to finish some tweaks to them and put them in the correct spot so they don't get overwritten on update.
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[chrisaldrich] and there are one or two small changes that I always do manually.
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jgmac1106 yeah its the jetpack hooks automatic wants to be your reader and publisher
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[chrisaldrich] Though I do notice that some of my read posts are missing some data now too... perhaps the change from read to 'read-of' which I can deal with manually
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jgmac1106 you [chrisaldrich] doesn’t run a child theme or he means forks of plugins
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: That is certainly correct.
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[chrisaldrich] Post Kinds has a separate place it looks for customized versions of the templates for kinds to override the built in ones.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'm hoping the -of vs not -of...
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GWG kind_views in the theme.
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[chrisaldrich] back in a few....
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[chrisaldrich] I need to eventually add a chicken icon and do a PR for the /chicken kind so I don't need to manually update that one either. 😉
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Why don't you do that as a homebrew plugin?
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[chrisaldrich] is there precedent for doing that? where should all the moving chicken parts go?
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[chrisaldrich] it would be nice to have a sidefile for settings so I don't need to re-enable the handful of experimental kinds either...
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[chrisaldrich] though it's honestly not that much work to do manually every couple of months
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jgmac1106 @chrisaldrich why not fork the plug-ins or submit a PR if you do it many more may like it
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GWG What is chicken?
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Loqi chicken is a type of post supported by idno https://indieweb.org/chicken
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[chrisaldrich] I have almost all of the code except for the chicken icon piece... not sure where/how I'd go about adding that part.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, can you remind me the alternate path that Post Kinds looks for custom template views? i thought it was in the documentation, but I'm not seeing it now
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[chrisaldrich] is it a kind_views folder within the theme? I think I'm losing my mind tonight.
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GWG Yes
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jgmac1106 weirdest thing my re==me links keep getting stripped every time I put them back.
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jgmac1106 <div style="text-align: center;"><i class="fab fa-twitter fa-4x"></i><i class="fab fa-google-plus fa-4x"></i><i class="fab fa-github fa-4x"></i><br />
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jgmac1106 I put in the links all the time, strange
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jgmac1106 hey [gwg] the way that [swentel] set up bridgy and Drupal is cool. There is an exclude p-name feature and the p class for Twitter, This way you can have a ttile on your page but play nice with parsers
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GWG Got a screenshot?
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[jgmac1106] I can take one after kids at school, but it's a neat format that might work perfectly without incorrectly adding p-name
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[jgmac1106] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FAZ2C6G68/screenshot_2018-05-31_08.01.07.png?pub_secret=452d2f296d&name=Screenshot 2018-05-31 08.01.07.png @gwgthis is the entire micoformats set up page but look at how the Twitter stuff gets handled. Its pretty cool. Something like that in Bridgy plug-in
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GWG I suppory that feature
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GWG You can use the excerpt box in WordPress for Twitter
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[jgmac1106] Okay I meant the different class than p-name for Twitter so you can do a note with wordpress and still give it a title but mess up parsers and twitter
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sknebel I think that's what GWG means. I'd guess excerpt gets marked up as p-summary, same as in Drupal, which bridgy prefers to name and content
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[jgmac1106] @sknebel Okay thx. I have just been looking at the markup differences between a status update on Known (no title field) and a not post kind in WP (blank title field) What iwas saying I think your set up allows for a title on Drupal but no p-name class for parsers but a name class Twitter recongnizes
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[jgmac1106] I could be wrong since I didn't get to test
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GWG The excerpt gets marked up as Bridgy Twitter content
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[jgmac1106] ooh okay, now I understand
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[mrkrndvs] I know I have probably missed this in conversation here somewhere, but did GDPR kill facepiles?
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Loqi [mrkrndvs]: chrisaldrich left you a message 1 week ago: it looks like you're missing an open quote and a close anchor tag on https://collect.readwriterespond.com/greg-mcverry-and-posting-on-twitter/
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jgmac1106 [mrkndvs] there were some changes to semantic linkbacks you need to toggle on facepiles I think in the comment section of settings
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jgmac1106 [gwg] and [chrisaldrich] were talking about this last noght
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[jgmac1106] how dare I doubt @gwg I find the h-entry in the body class of a note though. Is that how it should work? Do you want to keep the rest of the page, all of the footers and javascript in the h-entry
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106 typically the h-entry mf2 is handled (or not) by your theme, more often than not they include more of the page than they really should.
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chrisaldrich Though I think that GWG's fork of teh 2016 theme moves the div(?) with h-entry so it doesn't include a lot of extraneous cruft.
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jgmac1106 Yeah I may go in and throw a div around it
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jgmac1106 maybe I am doing notes wrong then: view-source:https://jgregorymcverry.com/3017-2/
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Loqi Hello #doo #digped #edtechchat #ds106 #clmooc #engchat #literacies @scsu #ctu friends I am going to be hosting weekly #IndieWeb Blogging 101 session every Wednesday night starting at 8:30 (or closest to bedtime for kids what ever comes last) for the... https://media2.giphy.com/media/3otO6xQxvlzQAAyhLG/giphy.gif
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jgmac1106 I see it on the body class
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sknebel it's not strictly wrong to have it on the body class
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jgmac1106 no, but in this case should the h-entry also carry everything else on a WP page? I guess technically it is part of entry
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sknebel nothing of it appears in the properties if it isn't marked up, so is it "carried" by the h-entry?
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jgmac1106 just trying to learn how it all worked and since I used Kapowski I need to remove u-photo or change it to u-featured
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jgmac1106 [sknebel] I am glad you told me that. I am working on a box metaphor post and good to know parsers will leave useless stuff in the box
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sknebel you had an issue a few days ago where it happened on twitter, but that was something that shouldn't have happened
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jgmac1106 that was with an rsvp and me not knwoing what post should get titles and what shouldn't
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jgmac1106 thx all
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jgmac1106 I usually use a div in case I want to style an element or because WP puts so much already into it. Guess I just feel safer that way due to limites knowledge
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