#wordpress 2018-06-01

2018-06-01 UTC
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jgmac1106
hey @gwg noticed the strikethrough puts a datetime stamp? Will that mess up h-entry? Just curious
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sknebel
only if it has microformats classes on it, and it probably hasn't?
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GWG
Noticed what?
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jgmac1106
<del datetime="2018-06-01T11:13:42+00:00">Plagiarism</del> nvm
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jgmac1106
I mixed up the datetime with the mf2
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jgmac1106
ignore my clock issues
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[Vanessa]
Hmm, looks like Omnibear has had a token issued now, but I get “error authenticating to Micropub endpoint” when I try to post anything. Does it not work, or am I doing something wrong?
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[keithjgrant]
You can enable logging in omnibear if you're on the latest version and see if they provides any more information
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[keithjgrant]
Though it looks like that error happens if the micropuncture endpoint returns a 4xx http response
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[jgmac1106]
Vanessa just open another tab. Works for me then.... Until micropub... But that has nothing to do with OmniBear
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[keithjgrant]
Nice, autocorrect
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[jgmac1106]
[keithjgrant] same happens to me. Stuck on token page but then if I open new tab I am signed and can use it.
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[keithjgrant]
So it authenticates ok, but doesn't automatically close the auth page?
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[keithjgrant]
It you can create an issue and paste the logs from this, I'd be happy to take a look https://github.com/keithjgrant/omnibear/issues
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[Vanessa]
It doesn’t close the auth page, no, hangs on retrieving token, but my site shows one has been generated. Then when I fire it up it says it can’t authenticate the micropub endpoint. I’m just a user, I’m afraid, with very limited expertise, so don’t know where to find logs, or even how to use GitHub (I have an account, but nothing has happened on it!).
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[Vanessa]
Ah, just catching up on the conversation. So micropub itself doesn’t work then? OK, 😞 I never know whether it’s me or “the system”. As you say [jgmac1106] opening a new tab works fine on the Omnibear side.
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[jgmac1106]
No [Vanessa] it does not work for me on my main blog but I did get it working on an instance of another WordPress install set up exactly same way.
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[jgmac1106]
@gwg and [aaronpk] can probably provide better context but it is something with some WordPress blogs that use a specific header authentication with Apache but not all.
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[jgmac1106]
Yes and I was able to replicate error in both Chrome and FF. Will figure post issue and logs
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[Vanessa]
It’s very weird - and far beyond my level of understanding! I thought Apache was a Shadows’ hit! Shame, I like the idea of micropub, so was hoping to make use of it.
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jgmac1106
[vanessa] you might be able to, do not equate what happens on my blog to what happens on yours
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jgmac1106
I was able to micropub from one website and not the other and they were set up exactly the same way
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jgmac1106
from my understanding the word apache refers to server software used by your shared hosting provider for softaer that is built on php (like wordpress) there is a special file called htaccess that micropub uses for authorization. For some reason some people get an error and others do not
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm on my way to a meeing, does anyone have resources to help David with his question? https://twitter.com/DavidWolfpaw/status/1002630753035935744 GWG, aaronpk perhaps?
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@DavidWolfpaw
@ChrisAldrich Do you know of any exports of test or demo micropub/webmention content that could be used for WordPress theme and plugin development? I don't have enough action yet on my live site to cover a variety of cases.
(twtr.io/1eVQGfWZ294)
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aaronpk
good idea
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aaronpk
I don't know of anything like that tho
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sknebel
there was a collection of webmention examples somewhere...
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[chrisaldrich]
Or perhaps snarfed, the king of unit tests, has something?
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GWG
Evening
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GWG
We need to release an IndieAuth update this weekend with fixes
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jgmac1106
[chrisaldrich] [gwg] [aaronpk] the answer is everyone of of our blogs
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jgmac1106
as a proof of concept and to compare. You need to hold your theme up to another theme. Really the first step has to be native microformats. Yes?
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GWG
I am missing context
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tantek
me too
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jgmac1106
I read David’s post as he is looking for post he could import, or a developer preview to help in the development and testing of WordPress themes
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jgmac1106
In moving between different themes and then trying themes developed by you folks the first major break point is microformats
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jgmac1106
I don’t want to give wrong advice but focus on h-card on homepage (either hardcoded or using iwc plugin ) and set up the templates with h-entry
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jgmac1106
in my neophyte experience that is first step
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jgmac1106
then rel=me but I guess just gitHib for now?
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jgmac1106
GitHub for now? Stupid ass Twitter. that severley limits audience if rel=me can only be from GitHub, though they could just use their WP account to sign into a micropub client so that is okay, but later in process.
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aaronpk
Twitter still works from indielogin.com so when I switch the wiki over to that it'll be back again
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tantek
jgmac1106: it sounds like you need tools to help validate, suggest fixes for, and otherwise maintain good microformats markup in WP Themes
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jgmac1106
yeah but until then just comparing your post to the wiki page, a working theme, and how your post types work is a solution for folks who can’t build validation tools
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jgmac1106
we recommended indiewebify.me I really want to work on a guide for theme mantainers but I will follow lead of the WP veterans in supporting them first.
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tantek
jgmac1106: indeed any hints at incremental tools would be good
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jgmac1106
was working on it but my son wanted to work on his blog instead
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jgmac1106
learnign about opacity and css now
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tantek
that sounds like a much more worthy pursuit :)
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jgmac1106
[tantek] I wonder if this could cause confusion. The Getting started page on WordPress https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress not for theme developers but [gwg] I want really bring this page into agreement with the current plugins