#wordpress 2018-07-31

2018-07-31 UTC
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dougbeal
GWG: I'm getting some errors running tests on micropub: https://gist.github.com/dougbeal/a0df1e4f43a94511283e219f7a8c3c15
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dougbeal
GWG: Should the theme matter for running tests?
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GWG
dougbeal, I am reworking the entire suite of tests.
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GWG
No, as unit tests aren't theme related
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dougbeal
GWG: ok, will ignore until next release
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GWG
I am working on the file upload code right now.
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dougbeal
GWG: I have a test failing in semantic linkback because it wants it called Article, but the actualy string is Post
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dougbeal
GWG: it passes on Travis :(
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donblanco
so using the WP micropub plugin, what is my resulting media endpoint?
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dougbeal
donblanco: looks like its in master, but a release hasn't been created
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donblanco
hmmm - so I have a script asking for it. Guess I can't run it? Or maybe just use the one supposedly coming from micro.blog?
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dougbeal
Unless you want to install from github
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dougbeal
What is media endpoint
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Loqi
micropub media endpoint is a Micropub endpoint that exclusively handles file uploads and returns a URL that can be used in a subsequent Micropub request https://indieweb.org/Media_endpoint
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donblanco
script is having other errors, I'll wait till those are resolved I guess
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[xavierroy]
[Khurt_Williams] have you seen this? https://github.com/kraftbj/beer-slurper
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Loqi
[kraftbj] beer-slurper: Slurp data from Untappd into your site!
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[chrisaldrich]
[kraft]++ for beer slurper
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Loqi
kraft has 1 karma
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jgmac1106
[xavierroy] do you still have the gist of the code you used to display tags under posts?
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[xavierroy]
[jgmac1106] Let me get that for you
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[xavierroy]
I added that to one of the post kinds template
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[xavierroy]
going to pick up my kid.. Will be back soon... [jgmac1106] Let me know if that worked for you.
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GWG
I am wading through media uploads.
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GWG
Trying to hook the old code to the new code
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[xavierroy]
[jgmac1106] Did it work for you?
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jgmac1106
[xavierroy] I had css grid media query issues to sort, those are done. Hope to get to tag displaying tonight
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[metbril]
[aaronpk] Is this the proper place to ask a specific user question about Quill?
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[metbril]
I tried to create a home screen icon, but when I launch it, it continues trying to authenticate. Every attempt redirects to Safari, and never back to the Quill 'container'. So that never gets authenticated.
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aaronpk
Oh weird
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aaronpk
Android? iOS?
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[metbril]
iOS 11.4.1
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[metbril]
All is working just fine when used within Safari itself. But the separate 'app' is more convenient.
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aaronpk
did you use the little "add to home screen" thing that quill gives you?
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[metbril]
No. I used the iOS share sheet from the Dashboard page
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aaronpk
from here https://quill.p3k.io/new click "add to home screen" at the bottom, then add that to your home screen from the share sheet
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[metbril]
That's working. But then I don't have the Dashboard available 😞
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aaronpk
the "quill" text at the top links to the dashboard, does that not work?
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[metbril]
Which has more options than just the note and the few at the bottom.
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[metbril]
'Quill' redirects to the Dashboard _in Safari_
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aaronpk
oh weird
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[metbril]
So does 'Editor' or 'Favorite' at the bottom.
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[metbril]
Should I file some issue?
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aaronpk
hmm, I don't have an answer then. I do know that I need to look into the new PWA support in iOS and maybe I can fix it up to make it work with that
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[metbril]
OK. I can subscribe to some GitHub issue to be pinged about progress
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aaronpk
sure. if there isn't one already, feel free to file one
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[metbril]
OK, i will. Thanks for now.
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17SAAJIW3
[chrisaldrich] If you are going to be around for awhile happy to strategize on updating getting-started page
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chrisaldrich
I've got some time if you're around. Need to get back to some of that myself.
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dougbeal
I think I want to add invite and event kinds to wordpress
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dougbeal
I've manualed, and it hurt
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dougbeal
Also a chance to make the facepile look good
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17SAAJIW3
So its about a 50/50 split as to why almost everyone in my class chose Independent Publisher (which is the least compliant in terms of proper mf2) half said it was the nicest looking, other half said bc that is what my first tutorial used
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17SAAJIW3
[dougbeal] full opacity only way to make my facepile look good
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17SAAJIW3
I am telling folks SemPress and 2016-IndieWeb the most functional, if syndicating to and fro Twitter is essential (so far nobody cares) then use 2016-IndieWeb for now
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17SAAJIW3
recording my #indieb2016 videos now
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[pfefferle]
Good morning
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GWG
Morning
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tantek__
dbryant just switched to using the Sempress theme per the WordPress instructions
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tantek__
and is now installing the first 7 plugins recommended by the indieweb plugin
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dbryant
Thanks tantek__. Those 7 plug-ins are Webmention, Semantic-Linkbacks, Micropub, Post Kinds, Syndication Links, Bridgy for Wordpress and Indie Auth
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tantek__
now the question is, what is the minimum required configuration for each plugin?
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tantek__
GWG, any tips?
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tantek__
it says to "Upload the webmention-folder to the /wp-content/plugins/ directory" - but that is no longer needed right?
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dougbeal
Right, it is in the offical wp plugin directory (I think thats the right term)
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dougbeal
We need to re-write wiki and IndieWeb plugin getting started
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dougbeal
Is it a single author site?
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tantek__
dougbeal - that's in the readme for the plugin itself
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tantek__
note the second URL I shared
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dougbeal
tantek__: I will file a bug, don't know where the text is genreated from
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tantek__
presumably somewhere inside the plugin's code
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tantek__
or at least the plugin's repo
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dougbeal
Yeah, will grep and PR, I think
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dougbeal
tantek__: doesn't appear to live in github, must be a wordpress thing
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GWG
I think we should fix that. In Physical Therapy, will be with you shortly
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GWG
But install and activate all plugins visit their settings pages and save
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tantek__
dbryant, myravery how's your setup going?
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tantek__
can you reply to each others' posts peer to peer?
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GWG
jackjamieson, how is Microsub coming?
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tantek__
GWG, for the RSVP post kind, once you pick the radio button for "RSVP", where do you check "Post Properties"?
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tantek__
this is on the Add New Post page
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GWG
tantek, do you see a box above the content box?
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GWG
It should appear there. If not, then it's hiding
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tantek__
ah, just found it via Screen thing
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GWG
That's what was next
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GWG
It should display by default
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tantek__
do you need to write anything for an RSVP post?
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tantek__
what happens if you leave the body text empty?
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GWG
No, but people do
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GWG
It should autoparse the URL to do a presentation
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GWG
tantek, someday I should get your intense feedback on the plugins
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tantek__
GWG, how do we know if an RSVP post sent webmentions or not?
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GWG
As well as more new people
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GWG
tantek, no logs as yet
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GWG
Requested feature though
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tantek__
GWG, working with getting dbryant setup with it now, he just tried an RSVP post
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GWG
Wordpress is bad at logging
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GWG
We don't store outgoing logs
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tantek__
here is his RSVP, markup looks good http://www.orangemoose.com/blog/?p=113 - so IDK why it wouldn't show up
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Loqi
[David Bryant] Attending DWeb Hacker Day (July 31)
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tantek__
GWG, any idea why it wouldn't go through?
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tantek__
(why an RSVP post wouldn't be showing up?)
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GWG
Did he enable the settings under discussion to notify other sites?
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tantek__
where is that?
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tantek__
which plugin?
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tantek__
on the post, the "Discussion" section just has
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tantek__
[x] allow comments
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tantek__
[x] allow trackbacks and pingbacks on this page
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tantek__
nothing else
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dougbeal
Settings->Discussion Settings, I think
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dougbeal
[?] Attempt to notify any blogs linked to from the article
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GWG
But this is a global setting
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tantek__
[ ] Attempt to notify any blogs linked to from the article ?
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GWG
That's the one, dougbeal
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GWG
Yes
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tantek__
strange that is not on by defaul
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tantek__
default
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dougbeal
Can a wp settings live in two places?
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dougbeal
If so, maybe we should mirror it under webmentions?
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tantek__
yeah that is odd - the webmentions plugin won't work without it and that's kind of an obscure setting to go dig for
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GWG
dougbeal, I thought of it
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dougbeal
GWG: is it possible?
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tantek__
then what, update the post?
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Loqi
[dshanske] #156 Not clear WordPress settings affect webmentions
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GWG
And yes
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tantek__
how do you get the post to then send a webmention?
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tantek__
do you have to go edit the post and click update?
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tantek__
or something else?
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tantek__
do you have to actually change the post in some way, or can you just click Update?
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GWG
Just click update
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tantek__
just clicking Update did not do anything
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tantek__
apparently checking the "[x] Attempt to notify any blogs linked to from the article" is insufficient
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tantek__
you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom and hit Save!
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tantek__
GWG, the Webmention plugin setup instructions need to include those steps
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tantek__
none of that was obvious at all, had to go digging
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tantek__
GWG, did you see the concern above about https://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#installation ?
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tantek__
it's out of date (copy to a folder?)
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tantek__
plus it really needs to give the explicit step of: In wp-admin, go to Settings->Discussion Settings, check "[x] Attempt to notify any blogs linked to from the article", scroll to bottom of page and click Save
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tantek__
otherwise your website won't send webmentions to other sites, and someone who installed the plugin will wonder why it is not working
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dougbeal
GWG: the wp plugin page copy is managed with wordpress somehow?
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tantek__
dougbeal, that's worth documenting somewhere on the wiki since it's unobvious
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GWG
I did
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GWG
I will do a PR
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dougbeal
GWG: its in github?
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GWG
I think if you write the section it will replace the default
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GWG
I think the better move is to remove the setting
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GWG
We shouldn't check as installing the plugin means you want the functionality
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tantek__
Rohit.khare.org
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tantek__
oops wrong channel
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Loqi
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tantek__
pfefferle++
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Loqi
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tantek__
today's WordPress indieweb setup experience was light years better than three years ago!
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tantek__
or even since IWC NYC
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GWG
We take feedback
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dougbeal
GWG: is admin log widget the right terminology?
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GWG
dashboard
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dougbeal
webmention log widget in admin dashboard?
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GWG
Yes
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