#wordpress 2018-08-01

2018-08-01 UTC
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[jgmac1106] @gwg if people do not include the widget on their posts would they be missing hcard? Should I tell folks to either use a widget or a header or footer hcard?
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GWG [jgmac1106]: No. There are themes that include an h-card.
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GWG The widget enhances that.
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[jgmac1106] I am using your theme
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GWG Yes, so I use the widget.
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[jgmac1106] Okay gonna revise description. Either use widget or make sure to add hcard to header or will that mess it up being outside of hentry?
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GWG No. H-Cards can be in the H-Feed
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[jgmac1106] I know that. I am asking if I tell people to just put their hcard I to their header would that be mess up by being outside the h-entry?
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[jgmac1106] I am okay with saying just use the widget. Just want to say right thing
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[miklb] ^ spam
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[cjwillcock] Hi all, I followed some discussion over the last few days here about use of microformats in wordpress, I am working on something to help me find these uses. By way of a test, I have this report on use of microformats in the twentyseventeen theme. https://gist.github.com/cjwillcock/34e03470bde9df82831a5b573e3691f5
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[cjwillcock] Maybe that's useful to someone 🙂
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[cjwillcock] Here is another, this one for WordPress core: https://gist.github.com/cjwillcock/bef26d25bd03985a80502bfd8becd4fa
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[cjwillcock] It's a little bigger
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[miklb] [cjwillcock]++
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[pfefferle] Nice project! [cjwillcock]++
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[pfefferle] [tantek] thanks!
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[metbril] User question. If I use Quill to post a like, I can't see anything of it in the post editor. Not even in the extra fields. How does this work?
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jackjamieson GWG: Sorry I missed you yesterday. The Microsub plugin is going well! Using Together as the client, it can add/update channels, subscribe to h-feed and rss feeds, and it polls all the feeds every hour.
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aaronpk wow!
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jackjamieson Still some parsing issues to sort through, but it's well on the way
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jackjamieson And some auth problems ported over from the micropub plugin, which I've been bypassing for now but need to fix
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jgmac1106 So I am working with [johnjohnston] and we suspect that when an emoji is in a url or excerpt in any part of the reposne properties breaks everything
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jackjamieson aaronpk: The Microsub spec has been a great reference - very clear!
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aaronpk oh good!
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petermolnar ...
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[pfefferle] [_jackjamieson]] a wordpress plugin? Do you have a link?
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jackjamieson [pfefferle] https://github.com/jackjamieson2/yarns-microsub-server
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Loqi [jackjamieson2] yarns-microsub-server: Early stages of a microsub server plugin for WordPress. In very early development
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jackjamieson Still not quite ready for use yet
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[pfefferle] [_jackjamieson]]++
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[pfefferle] [_jackjamieson]] How do you display the posts? In the admin?
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jackjamieson [pfefferle] Posts are only displayed with a microsub client
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[pfefferle] But how will they be stored in the dB? Custom post type?
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jackjamieson Yep, they're a custom post type, with jf2 for each post stored as a custom field
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[pfefferle] Nice!
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jackjamieson In a past iteration I'd created a separate database table, but GWG persuaded me that a custom post type would be simpler, which was a good call
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jackjamieson [pfefferle]: And in fact I adapted most of the endpoint code from the webmention plugin, so there's plenty of your work in there!
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[pfefferle] ;)
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[pfefferle] Is the reader based on the microsub plugin or do they work independently
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[pfefferle] Custom post type is definitely the better solution!
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jackjamieson You mean yarns-indie-reader? I build that prior to learning much about microsub so it handles both front and back-end. So the microsub plugin is adapted from that but a change of direction
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[pfefferle] Do they work together? Or is this still work in progress?
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jackjamieson The reader is standalone
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[pfefferle] Any plans to combine them?
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[pfefferle] Do you think your plugins are stable enough to add them to the indieweb plugin?
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[pfefferle] Are they accessible through Wordpress.org
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jackjamieson No plans to combine them for now, but I might reconsider once the server is working smoothly. To be honest, I think the existing microsub clients provide a better interface than I could, so I'm happy to just use them
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jackjamieson The reader is pretty stable I guess, but probably would need more testing and I want to focus on the server instead
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jackjamieson The server is not yet stable and is missing a bunch of features at the moment
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jackjamieson And neither is accessible through wordpress.org yet
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[pfefferle] Hmm
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[pfefferle] Will give them a try, when I am back from vacation
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jackjamieson Cool, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Still some major missing features and bugs, but I'm making relatively smooth progress
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[pfefferle] 👍
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[pfefferle] [aaronpk] is microsub multi dimensional? Can a microsub server subscribe to other microsub servers?
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aaronpk what now
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aaronpk microsub is a contract between a reader and a server
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aaronpk what that server does to get posts into it is not part of the spec, it can do it however it wants
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[pfefferle] Ah ok
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[pfefferle] Does it make sense to write a microsub server that provides only the posts of one blog?
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aaronpk not really
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aaronpk that sounds like publishing a feed?
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[pfefferle] Yes ☺
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aaronpk alright turning on the banhammer here too
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jgmac1106 [@chrisaldrich] if you are free now we could just riff on rss feeds and categories and tags I was going to record the video anyways….stinks I lost [johnjohnston] video I have some
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jgmac1106 I still don’t know why I never pass any of the webmention.rocks test but I still send and get webmentions
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jgmac1106 !tell chrisaldrich when you get a chance can you add a feed example here for a post kind plus a category….post kind plus a tag….post kind plus a category and a tag: https://indieweb.org/RSS#WordPress
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jackjamieson jgmac1106: Not sure if it's related to your issues with webmention.rocks, but I'm still having issues accessing your site in my reader. From my local terminal I can curl no problem, but curling from my server times out
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jackjamieson as a result, I can't subscribe to your site in my reader :(
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aaronpk that sounds like maybe an ipv6 issue
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jgmac1106 …hmmmm might make sense as to why ths rss bot in Slack can’t pull my feeds…wonder what the heck I am doing wrong…I have rebuilt this damn site so many times trying to fix that problem
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sknebel no AAAA records, so unlikely
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aaronpk hm darn
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sknebel we sometimes got errors from some security software from his hoster, but that delivered error pages, not timeouts
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jgmac1106 yeah…back to let me just get done with this class and walkaway from WordPress….just unsure we can ever get all the working parts moving too dependant on too many things…or throw a server in my closet..one of the two
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jackjamieson In case it helps, here’s the results from my attempt:
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jackjamieson curl -vvv https://jgregorymcverry.com/
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jackjamieson * About to connect() to jgregorymcverry.com port 443 (#0)
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jackjamieson * Trying 192.241.132.143... Connection timed out
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jackjamieson * couldn't connect to host
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Loqi Greg McVerry
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jackjamieson * Closing connection #0
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jackjamieson curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
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jgmac1106 how does someone fix that…what do I have wrong?
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jgmac1106 will try filing an issue with my hosting company…but they usually come back and say it must be your theme or plugins
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GWG I missed Microsub discussion.
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GWG Darn
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jgmac1106 okay put in a ticket about failing curl test will see what Timmy and Jim say
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jackjamieson GWG: I'm always up for more Microsub chat
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jackjamieson The parser from post-kinds is working pretty well, btw - that was a good idea.
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GWG I need to upgrade it
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jgmac1106 @jackjamieson I chickened out about using a WordPress reader and just pumped in inoreader html clips into an iframe for my class
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jackjamieson GWG: What sort of upgrade do you have in mind for the parser? Anything I can help/test with?
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GWG I want to make it a library
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dougbeal Anyone tried the podcast feed plugins? Don't want anchor to control my feed.
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dougbeal s/the/any
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aaronpk i've used Seriously Simple Podcasting