#jgmac1106we will see, the class is going well, they haven’t tarred and feathered me yet, webmentions going through some getting caught in spam…the no rss feed…failing curl test..I have no idea what t do about that. I throw https://jgregorymcverry.com/feed into a broswer and it reads it fine…but everyone says they don’t get it
#jgmac1106i dunno I tried webmention.rocks again today first test: https://webmention.rocks/test/1 never gotten it to work….gRegor has told me for a bit he can’t get my feeds, then other tried a curl test and said I timeout…didn’t know if both were related
#jgmac1106pinged my shared hosting provider, “they need more detail” but I get webmentions..I think I send them
Boulet8, jgmac1106 and [miklb] joined the channel
#[miklb]I’m still not clear the plan for rel=alternate in WP.
#Loqi[miklb]: I’m still not clear the plan for rel=alternate in WP.
#LoqiWelcome, [miklb]. We've had an influx of IRC spam recently, and you were not yet recognized as a non-spammer. Your previous message wasn't sent to the channel, but I'm repeating it below so everyone can see it. You are now marked as verified, so your future messages will be sent as normal.
#[miklb]I was really hoping someone would say that the 2 combined would totally satisfy mf2 for a WP theme. Still not sure what would need to be done for it make it so.
#[miklb]if the goal is for every parser to adopt rel=alternate then it wouldn’t matter how good the mf2 in the theme is, it would never get looked at. If it will be a maybe/maybe not every parser, then there still needs to be good mf2 in WP themes. In which case, I’m back to my question where are the conflicts with WP core mf1? Or are there anymore.
#[miklb]alright, well, I’ll check back in a week to see if there’s been anymore discussion about the plan. At this point, I’m really hoping that rel=alternate works out, no one has to worry about mf2 in their theme, and I can move back to a static site.
#dougbealwouldn't rel=alternate uf2 give more data?
[xavierroy], revi22, rogue, F4RR3LL, nullcone, Matthew_9, Kirito, Arokh3, nope__ and [matpacker] joined the channel
#[matpacker]Just had DreamHost migrate me over to a VPS, and now all my endpoints are broken and the headers wont authorise...haha
#[metbril]I authenticated with Aperture and Indigenous. Next step: find some interesting channels. Any suggestions?
#aaronpkif you use micro.blog you can subscribe to your micro.blog timeline
[ryan339] and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
#[jgmac1106]I am not sure about webmentions and semantic link backs but from what I am reading we might be able to get mf2 done correctly in Gutenberg by just creating an hentry block... And pulling in all the Metadata from elsewhere... Or by doing a series of blocks. You can use classes and attributes and make it so other plugins can not style or change specific blocks
#[jgmac1106]Not sure if this could be a plug in that gets hentry correct for article, note, photo, bookmark, and reply or would still require a theme... Gonna ask around
#[metbril]I must be doing something wrong. I have added my own (json) feed to aperture and indigenous, monocle and alltogethernow all show no posts. The feed has 10.
#aaronpk[metbril]: in aperture does it show the number of posts?
[aaronpk], [iambismark], [kim_landwehr] and [pfefferle] joined the channel
#[pfefferle][jgmac1106] this is not how Gutenberg works... a block is not a whole entry, it is more a paragraph... if you have a text with two paragraphs and an image, Gutenberg creates 3 blocks... so it makes it even harder....
#[pfefferle][jgmac1106] and even if we find some hacky solution, like with wp-uf2 we still have the problem with title, author informations, dates, ...
#[pfefferle][jgmac1106] and if the theme supports microformats1 we might have side effects with backwards compatibility modes, because the Gutenberg-mf2 stuff will be on other html elements than the mf1s...
#[pfefferle]Gutenberg is nice, for a reply context block or semantic linking or... but not to try to fix the semantics of a theme...
[quinnvinlove] and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
#[jgmac1106]Wow.... They are going to make a block for each individual html element.... Only if we had someway to group strings of text in something like....an html element.
#[jgmac1106][pfefferle] I was hoping when I read blocks supersede html.... Which just sounds crazy... It could work....darn...Hopefully the other avenues work
#[pfefferle]I invested a lot of time, to think about/build a general way of making themes mf2 compatible and ended up, building two themes from scratch, because everything else has not really worked...
#[jgmac1106]Yeah..and they seem to be working for most and I know folks hate page builders but it seems to be providing the design flexibility folks want.... I just apply to only static pages as safety
#[jgmac1106][pfefferle] what is the difference when folks say uf2 and mf2?
#[jgmac1106]Okay thank you. It is going okay in my class. Too many chose independent Publisher. Tryanny of tutorial. Actually going to ask folks to switch to SemPress or 2016.. Just got to let them calm
jgmac1106 joined the channel
#[pfefferle]Don‘t forget ZenPress, it is very similar to Independent Publisher and fully supports Gutenberg
#[pfefferle]It should also support static front pages now... (please re-check ;) )
#aaronpkcan someone who knows these things point me in the direction of the hooks I would need to make this work? actually I might be able to copy stuff from the webmention plugin...
#aaronpki'd like to make an Aperture plugin that when you install it, it goes and signs up for an account on my aperture instance, and then can write the <link> tag into the page
#aaronpkthe way I want the signup to work is the plugin would ping aperture.p3k.io after it's installed, and I can do a little two-way handshake to set up the account
#aaronpkso you'd never actually need to visit aperture.p3k.io to use it
#aaronpkso basically I need to know: 1) how do I write a <link> tag into the html of just the home page? 2) is there a hook that runs just once after the plugin is installed, and 3) how can I make an HTTP route like the webmention endpoint
#aaronpkoh and 4) how does the plugin know the home page URL the site is installed at, including http/https and the subfolder
#[matpacker]i've just noticed that the dashboard is slow af, along with the site, since moving over to a dreamhost vps. Figured I would setup WP Super Cache or similar, just to speed things up a little.
#dougbealmatpacker: what are that stats on your vps?