#wordpress 2019-10-15

2019-10-15 UTC
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[Michael_Beckwit Not specifically AntiSpamBee, but I had to do a workaround for WP Zero Spam https://github.com/tw2113/apiratelifeforme/blob/master/mu-plugins/plugin-hacks.php
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[Michael_Beckwit Basically self-populate the $_POST global to have the hidden field which was being added at the last moment.
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[Michael_Beckwit maybe antispambee is doing something similar?
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[KevinMarks] Google have always been bad at multilingualism. They ignore language tags and rely on ML, and assume one language per page.
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[KevinMarks] I tried to get them to listen a dozen years ago https://youtu.be/rqJdEMeyXZc
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[tonz] Ha, with Stephanie Booth! Know her for over 15 yrs.
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beko[m] I wonder… ActivityPub plugin does not propagate updates of avatar / site image, right? The Mastodon instance I use never updated this in weeks. Wonder how long until cache is invalidated - if at all.
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[tonz] [KevinMarks] often talked about multilingualism on our blogs with her.
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sknebel [tonz]: with the changes you described yesterday, do the translator services now manage to detect it? Or would one need to change the oagewide language to get recognition to work?
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[tonz] I’ve only tested with Google Translate / Chrome and [KevinMarks] is right, it only looks at the declared default language, and if not declared in the html tag uses CDL2 to detect language through machine learning. So my added language mark-up seems to have not many takers if any.
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[tonz] site wide default is basically the only thing you can really influence language detection with.
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sknebel page wide, not site wide, right?
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[tonz] yeah, it could be page wide. But it’s based on adding a language marker to the <html> tag. Wordpress treats it as a sidewide preference, not a page wide one, unless you use the WP Multilingual plugins (which assumes you want to present the same content/taxonomies in different languages, and doesn’t assume different content in different languages, nor does it countenance the possibility of having mixed language content in the same spot )
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[tonz] Page wide also fails if you’re looking at e.g. overview page, search results or front page with last x posts, or mixed languages in a single post (e.g. discussing Japanese Haiku on an English site). I’ll see if I can set a page wide preference for WP’s single post template, I wonder if the start of the html output gets created there though.
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sknebel Sure, meant just for individual post pages
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[tonz] I’d need to influence the language_attributes function in header.php when using the single.php template.
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[KevinMarks] It is daft that Google still does this, especially as Google had loads of polyglot employees
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