#wordpress 2021-02-09
2021-02-09 UTC
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[Tim_Nolte] So I need to get on my server and do a grep but I suspect the problem with the IndieWeb Extensions screen not loading the CSS & JS correctly is due to some other plugin also defining the `IndieWeb_Plugin_Installer` class. Is that possible? I'm just noticing that there is logic in the IndieWeb plugin that only loads it's version of the class if that class doesn't already exist.
# cambridgeport90 I'm doing some looking. I have a question for all of you guys using WP. How many of you actually use the built-in widgets on your homepage and don't just add a ton of them with custom html? (I'm thinking of taking out all the built in ones and replacing them.)
# cambridgeport90 Thoughts?
# [Tim_Nolte] I don't generally use many WordPress Widgets, as found under the widget management for many of my sites, I don't think I'm using any of the IndieWeb widgets.
# cambridgeport90 So I can take out all the meta crap on my home page? I've been wanting to, but didn't know whether I was supposed to. After all, I want to create a custom subscribe widget that just displays my feeds so that people can click on individual ones. Right now, I think the only one available to subscribers is my firehose, and not sure I want that.
# cambridgeport90 I also took out recent comments; onlys that display are last seen, meta (which I need to move), and a link to my Discord server that you can click on if you want to chit-chat.
# cambridgeport90 I'm thinking of adding one more to it, though, another HTML one.
# [Tim_Nolte] I'll confess that I don't think I realized there were IndieWeb widgets. 😮
# [Tim_Nolte] I used to have a very busy blog site and have tried to reduce this down as much as I can.
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# [Tim_Nolte] Right, I'm still scratching my head to figure out how it is that my site insists on trying to load the `installer.css` & `installer.js` from the non-existent `assets` directory when I in fact am looking at the plugin code running on my site and can see that it should be loading from the `static/...` directories. 🤔
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# [Tim_Nolte] No worries, thanks for your work!
# cambridgeport90 On the question ... again, of customization, which Twitter plugin do you find better? I like how Bridgy does things, but at the same time, like how WP To Twitter displays hashtags on the ends of posts. And ... it uses your own apps. What does everyone here do?
# cambridgeport90 Publishing.
# cambridgeport90 I still have WP to Twitter and the pro variant installed,though inactive.
# cambridgeport90 You mean for syndication? I have a couple set up, though I still have to figure out why my site became unverified with Micro.blog. Sometimes the syndication works, sometimes it doesn't. It's weird.
# cambridgeport90 I even put the custom feed for that, as well.
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[chrisaldrich] Slowly over time, I think I've been removing more and more widgets from my pages. Rather than using the h-card widget on my home page, I wrote some custom HTML to get something a bit more comprehensive.
# [chrisaldrich] cambridgeport90, for RSS subscriptions I created a widget that uses SubToMe to create a follow button. If I recall, you can customize it quite a bit and have it target lots of feeds from your site to not only give people a choice of feeds, but a choice of feed readers to use for subscribing. I always liked its UI, particularly for people who may not know what RSS is.
# [chrisaldrich] [Tim_Nolte] did you pull the IndieWeb plugin from the WP repository or are you using it as a .zip file from Github? I've seen instances where the .zip file from Github can cause issues with pathnames that may result in the sort of error you're seeing.
# [chrisaldrich] If it's something you do frequently, Andy Fragen's Github updater can help you get around it (as well as provide updates): https://github.com/afragen/github-updater
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# [arush] @cambridgeport90 I use Bridgy at this point. I've played around with other syndication options, and I always come back to Bridgy because it gives me the control I want.
# [arush] I think I have a couple of the built-in widgets, or at least one, the archive one, but the others are indieweb widgets. I'm thinking of not using the social profiles widget and just manually constructing an H-card for the home page.
# [arush] Meta is a proof-of-concept widget I think. Can absolutely be removed from site.
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# [snarfed] cambridgeport90 glad you’re liking bridgy! and the hashtag feature request is https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/478 , feel free to jump in, PRs etc welcome
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# [chrisaldrich] cambridgeport90 There's an inverse solution to the hashtag thing that snarfed mentions that's also available, at least in the WordPress world. One of the problems with a straightforward solution is one wanting categories or tags on their site that don't necessarily become hashtags within Twitter. This also runs into a problem of doing more careful character counting to make sure that one's post will still fit into the limit for
# [chrisaldrich] Twitter.
# [chrisaldrich] To fix it in the other direction, [pfefferle] has added hashtag functionality into https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ so that if you write a #hashtag into a post in the WordPress editor the plugin will find it and wrap it in an an appropriate url (https://example.com/tag/hashtag) in your published post and automatically add it to your tag field. He may have a version of it that does just this functionality without all the
# [chrisaldrich] ActivityPub pieces, but I'm not seeing it at the moment.
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# [chrisaldrich] @pf
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[pfefferle] But it is very experimental
# [chrisaldrich] [pfefferle]++
# [pfefferle] Thanks ☺
# [chrisaldrich] The only issues I've seen with it or the other ones are accidental tags created when one is writing things like #1, #2, etc., or cases where you're using octothorpes in front of color codes in CSS examples. For those I typically "cheat" by adding a zerowidth space in front of the # and the plugin seems to ignore them....
# [pfefferle] Yes, the plugin is far from perfect :)
# [pfefferle] I also had issues linking to irc channels
# [pfefferle] But I think Twitter and mastodon have the same issues