#wordpress 2022-01-28

2022-01-28 UTC
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[tw2113_Slack_]
oye, trying out WP 5.9 this morning and the full site editing. I’m feeling lost more than half the time and this is coming off of as a clusterF
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[tw2113_Slack_]
and i’ve been using WP for well over a decade at this point
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[tw2113_Slack_]
yup
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[asuh]
[tw2113_Slack_] are you using a new, compatible theme for FSE?
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[tw2113_Slack_]
i did a fresh brand new local install with stock 5.9 and Twenty Twenty Two theme
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[asuh]
I’m now did the same, what a strange new experience. I’m gonna have to watch videos of others using it because it’s not very intuitive
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[tw2113_Slack_]
would have loved if they provided some documentation links
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[tw2113_Slack_]
“here’s how you edit the default menu in TwentyTwentyTwo”
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[asuh]
It reminds me of my last experience of using Wix to build sites. But that was a few years ago.
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[tw2113_Slack_]
coincidentally enough you can’t convince me that all these block experiences are meant to compete with sites like Wix
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[tw2113_Slack_]
aren’t*
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GWG-
I keep saying this is driving me toward ClassicPress
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[tw2113_Slack_]
thankfully it takes a FSE theme to work with. So most sites won’t see it automatically
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[tw2113_Slack_]
GWG is the tags spot supposed to be just a textarea that may get parsed out later by comma?
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GWG-
[tw2113_Slack_]: Yes, I figured fancy can come later
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[tw2113_Slack_]
i do see it made 1 term, but that’s fine at the moment
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[tw2113_Slack_]
working good so far, and I was able to confirm zero issue with my Blogroll block, but i also expected that since it just extends the links functionality 🙂
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GWG-
[tw2113_Slack_]: How do the enhancements to the interface look? The list table and edit links page?
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[tw2113_Slack_]
all in all fine
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[tw2113_Slack_]
the “read later” heading is mis-aligned but that’s cause the sorting arrow breaks to a new line
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[tw2113_Slack_]
other than that, it’s all how i’d expect
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GWG
I'll fix some of the style stuff later on... but I'm going to continue with adding an API or two next, maybe some extra importers.
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GWG
Maybe an exporter
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GWG
A new challenge as I've never done a full rest controller, only APIs.
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GWG
Think it is a worthy addition to people's plugin list?
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[tw2113_Slack_]
not sure i’m going to enthusiastically say that, since most people have forgotten about blogrolls/bookmark lists in general, but it’s worth effort regardless
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[tw2113_Slack_]
people don’t even use browser bookmarks, they just leave tabs open
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GWG
I think of it as a searchable bookmark archive
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[tonz]
blogrolls and bookmark collections by others are a major instrument of discovery for me.
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[tonz]
I routinely check other people’s sites for blogrolls, and publish my own feeds list. same for bookmarks, though that’s much less common now, but e.g. [chrisaldrich] hypothesis feed is valuable to me.
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[tw2113_Slack_]
for me at least, bookmarks are random things/posts that i found interesting and want to share. blogrolls are for the sites overall, not just a single post
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[tonz]
same here, through blogrolls I discover people to follow, bookmarks is content oriented and not about following but about note taking, although if the bookmarks points to an interesting post the author might end up in the blogroll.
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GWG
The way I'm designing this, if you want to turn a bookmark into a bookmark post, you click
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GWG
[tonz]: If you want to try it, it's work in progress
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GWG
[tonz]: I support blogroll as a use case, but also bookmarks...so in my version, you'd have a blogroll category to distinguish from the other bookmarks
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GWG
I may add a single versus feed flag to set
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[tonz]
this may be a ‘well duh’ type of question, but when using Yarns in WP, what is the microsub server endpoint’s address. My WP site page source says <link rel=“microsub” />
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GWG
[tonz]: I have a complete rewrite and optimization of Microsub I was working on before I needed a break, by the way
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[tonz]
thanks!
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GWG
[tonz]: Re your yarns issue, is it same database or same table that bothers you?
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[tonz]
same table mostly, though I understand the reasoning for the choice. It’s just that it means there’s a bunch of unknown to me content constantly being added and removed to my two decades worth of my own content. By extension same database. What I’m now starting to do is have 2 WP instances, one with yarns running only, and the other running my site. Using two different authentications and bearer tokens I can read from one
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[tonz]
write to another.
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GWG
We have a proposal to have the Microsub stuff in a custom table, and an equal proposal to not.
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[tonz]
what’s the correct IndieAuth permissions scope to have for yarns?
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[tonz]
I created a token using Jamie Tanna’s token please tool, which delivers only a ‘draft’ scope, and I’m getting missing scope messages from yarns when talking to the endpoint
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[tonz]
insufficient scope messages that is.
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GWG
You need read
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[tonz]
yes, after reading what [sknebel] pointed and I myself had overlooked on that page, I realised. @jamietanna ’s tool to get a token doesn’t allow one to specify the scope needed, so now first will build a brief thing to get my own tokens. Tried in Postman, but that doesn’t route through the WP loginscreen somehow. Anyways, that’s for some other time, it’s late.
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[tonz]
Thanks for the info, Enjoy your weekend!
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GWG
It may involve coding
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Guest13
hi