#wordpress 2023-01-11
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[Tim_Nolte] ↩️ I took have been thinking about what it would take to get a WordPress site to work with a Mastodon app.
# [Tim_Nolte] ↩️ *too
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[TMichelleMoore] [Tim_Nolte] That would be very interesting to see your evolution of a Mastodon app!
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# GregL[m] Having a Wordpress site act as a custom Mastodon-style instance complete with a dedicated app would be an interesting concept... and be a true definition of decentralization IMHO
# [snarfed] that's what both the ActivityPub plugin and https://fed.brid.gy/ do!
# GregL[m] I don't know if I've got the technical skills as of yet to attempt the BridgyFed route. I've had to pause work on my site for a few days as I get used to a somewhat major transition, getting used to a different OS that isn't from Microsoft.
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starrwulfe[m] <[chrisaldrich]> "starrwulfe I saw your reply..." <- [chrisaldrich]: thanks—
# starrwulfe[m] Post may have disappeared because I nuked my install and started over.
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# EarthboundValkyr I was looking at BridgyFed - how difficult is it to use compared to the ActivityPub plugin
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# EarthboundValkyr If I set up an IndieWeb site using WordPress, how do I find other IndieWeb users to read their stuff and how do they find me?
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# starrwulfe[m] It’s pretty easy to set up but you will be an instance of one; you’ll need to have at least one other account on another ActivityPub server to subscribe to your posts so everyone else can start seeing your posts in the timeline.
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# GregL[m] Morning all
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# GregL[m] So, curious to know what the best settings to use when configuring the syndication links plugin for Wordpress... I've got the Micropub token for Twitter, but there's three other settings on the page I'm confused about. Should I have Bridgy ignore the formatting and what about using excerpts? Anyone got any advice there? Thanks.
# GregL[m] Actually that should have been two not three... oops.aa
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# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvalkr I agree with @snarfed ‘a assessment on which is easier, but if you get the redirection plugin setup correctly, BridgyFed is easy also. I have both and experiment with them by disabling and enabling.
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# EarthboundValkyr If I start getting set up on WordPress and find I'm just way in over my head, can I remove the plugins and have my site back to normal, or will I need to undo any of the changes manually?
# starrwulfe[m] Yes, it goes back to normal without any changes EarthboundValkyr
# EarthboundValkyr Thanks! In case it isn't obvious, I'm pretty new at a lot of this :)
# starrwulfe[m] So are we! I got started 2 weeks ago myself
# EarthboundValkyr How's it going?
# starrwulfe[m] I’ve got @starrwulfe@starrwulfe.xyz set up with the ActivityPub plugin and all the webmention stuff works with GWG and [pfefferle]’s plugins as well
# EarthboundValkyr Nice! I've got mine set up on Activity Pub as well, though I'm not familiar with GWG or [pfeffele] yet.
# EarthboundValkyr I noticed that the plugin page says it hasn't been tested with the latest version. I take it it's working ok, though?
# starrwulfe[m] Working on [snarfed]’s Bridgy integration right now with getting tokens to use. I even got some Facebook Swarm and Instagram back feeds happening now
# starrwulfe[m] What are backfeeds
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "backfeeds" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "backfeeds is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# starrwulfe[m] What is backfeed
# Loqi Backfeed is the process of syndicating interactions on your POSSE copies back (AKA reverse syndicating) to your original posts https://indieweb.org/backfeed
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# starrwulfe[m] Loqi doesn’t do fuzzy logic. 😆
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# starrwulfe[m] earthboundvalkyr: Works just fine
# EarthboundValkyr Cool! I got my Activity Press set up at earthboundvalkyrie_crqp6i@earthboundvalkyrie.net. I so wish I could change that username, but I know I can't change what WP has assigned and don't see any way to do it in the Activity Pub plugin :(
# starrwulfe[m] Right now I’m having a problem with it just posting the title and not the whole post for things. GWG any ideas?
# EarthboundValkyr I was looking at Bridgy, but I don't use any silo sites. Is it useful with just the Indie/Mastodon type stuff, do you know?
# starrwulfe[m] earthboundvalkyr: Yeah, that’s a problem. I’m lucky in that I can set that myself… do you have access to the database?
# EarthboundValkyr On the ActivityPub plugin Settings page, I just chose the option that posts and excerpt, and that's working just fine for me.
# starrwulfe[m] No I mean the underlying SQL that runs your site
# EarthboundValkyr I don't think I have access to the database - my host set it all up, but I can check on that
# starrwulfe[m] You can go thru the standard Wordpress method of changing the user name.
# starrwulfe[m] Or just create a new user in Wordpress and post as that user
# EarthboundValkyr Oh, my comment on the ActivityPub settings page was trying to answer your question about your posting problem :)
# EarthboundValkyr Oh, use a different user - there's an idea - I may do that!
# starrwulfe[m] Where else did I post it? I can’t remember 🤪
# EarthboundValkyr Just up a few lines - you were saying you could only get it to post your title and not the whole post. I was just saying I set mine to do excerpts and its working fine
# EarthboundValkyr What is GWG?
# Loqi David Shanske is an Indieweb enthusiast from New York, working on Indieweb WordPress plugin development https://indieweb.org/gwg
# starrwulfe[m] Yeah you’re using most of his work with the plugins. LOL
# starrwulfe[m] He also hosts the indieweb online meetups over zoom most weeks as well. There’s one tonight.
# EarthboundValkyr Oh, cool! OK :) Well, I'm going to go try to get this set up. If you're still around, I'll probably be back when I run into trouble. :D
# EarthboundValkyr If not, it's been nice chatting and I hope to see you around again!
# starrwulfe[m] I’m here on my phone, so ask away!
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# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvalkyr It’s possible to change the username. It’s not pretty but I did it. I had to setup another user. Transfer authorship. And I think dig around in the database. I am sorry I didn’t write down all of the instructions, but wanted you to know it is possible to “fix” the name. I also changed my URL to remove the www. Again, it’s not pretty and will take exploring the database. Before doing any of
# [TMichelleMoore] you have a good backup.
# starrwulfe[m] Yep, if already have an established blog, it’s a bit harder because there’s the issue of transferring authorship over all the previous posts if you want to edit them in one place or there’s a byline that gets shown automatically.
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# EarthboundValkyr Thanks [TMichelleMoore}! I created a new user. The problem I'm having at them moment is getting the H-Card profile link to work. It says to go to https://MYDOMAIN.COM/wp-admin/profile, but when I go there, I get a 404 page error
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# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvalkyr I don’t have the suggested themes installed so I had to setup the h-card using html on my home page. Use the simple card here - https://indieweb.org/h-card and place it on your home page and verify it works with https://indiewebify.me in the Validate h-card field. Start with this.
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# EarthboundValkyr Thanks!!
# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvalkyr If you need an example I can post my html here. But I am a beginner also, so you will be better off using the example.
# [TMichelleMoore] [snarfed] I tried another test of Mastodon via Webmentions and received an error. Do you think its related to my original Mastodon authentication issue? 2023-01-11T16:48:21-05:00: Mastodon via Bridgy Webmention
# [TMichelleMoore] "status": 400,
# [TMichelleMoore] "webmention-mastodon-bridgy_publish_error": {
# [TMichelleMoore] "data": null
# [TMichelleMoore] "message": "Unknown Mastodon via Bridgy Webmention Error"
# [snarfed] [TMichelleMoore] looking at the log of that attempt on https://brid.gy/mastodon/@tmichellemoore@mastodon.social#publishes , it says "Couldn't find link to brid.gy/publish/mastodon"
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# [TMichelleMoore] Do I have to add the link in the html?
# [snarfed] [TMichelleMoore] yup, https://brid.gy/about#webmentions
# [TMichelleMoore] Restate… Oh! I thought that is what the checkbox on the post did. Lol
# [snarfed] you need it for webmention, not for micropub. which as a user ideally you wouldn't have to choose between or even know about 😀 https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/174
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# EarthboundValkyr Where do I find the HTML code pages to edit them? I thought I'd seen something that let me access them prevoiusly, but I can't find it now
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# EarthboundValkyr Continuing question from above - I'm specifically trying to find where I can edit the HTML page to add the h-card info. I tried adding it using a widget, but it couldn't link to the wp-admin/profile.php page and the verifier found an h-card on a different page that isn't what I want to use
# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvalkry I hope I am guiding you correctly. But try this. Go to your home page. Edit it. Add a custom html block or if using the classic editor open the html view and paste in the content.
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# EarthboundValkyr I can do that, but first I have to find the home page to edit it, and I can't seem to find any way to access it. I was just going through the individual files in my FTP and couldn't find anything that looked right
# EarthboundValkyr I'm wondering if my theme somehow is blocking access to those pages
# [TMichelleMoore] @earthboundvlakyr Are you using WordPress?
# [TMichelleMoore] You don’t have to use the FTP…just go to the Admin and Pages.
# EarthboundValkyr Yes, I"m using WP. I'll check pages again - can you hold on one sec?
# [TMichelleMoore] Yep
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# EarthboundValkyr In the admin section under pages all I have are All Pages, Add New and Locations, but none of those options have access to the Index page
# EarthboundValkyr Maybe I need to have a static index page rather than having it show my blog posts, though I'd rather not do that
# [TMichelleMoore] It sounds like you have all of your blog posts on your home page.
# EarthboundValkyr I do
# [TMichelleMoore] Maybe someone else can chime in here on that. I have static home page.
# EarthboundValkyr Oh! I have an idea - I'll see if I can put it in a sticky "into" post
# EarthboundValkyr er, "intro" post :)
# [TMichelleMoore] Let us know how it works!
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# EarthboundValkyr Well, I didn't get the sticky post idea to work, but I did get my h-card working properly, so that's solves that issue! onto the next bit :)
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# EarthboundValkyr How long should I set the IndieAuth expiration for, or is that needed?
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# EarthboundValkyr Actually, my h-card validates fine, but it's not quite working right. It's displaying "<span class='p-author h-card'>Kriselda</span>" in the author field on my pages. Any idea how to get it to leave the code part of that out and have just the name?