#wordpress 2023-01-17

2023-01-17 UTC
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[Tim_Nolte] [pfefferle] do you think that if the ActivityPub plugin could add support for posts to render JSON based on a query parameter such as `?format=application/activity+json` then we could leverage that for these caching situation with a rewrite rule using something like `RewriteCond %{HTTP_ACCEPT} "application/activity+json"`?
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[Tim_Nolte] I'm not finding anything within the VHost or server-wider configuration in the OpenLiteSpeed server that can separate out the caching by `HTTP_ACCEPT` formats. So I'm trying to thinking of a way to leverage perhaps query parameter caching to get something like that working.
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GWG [Tim_Nolte]: Do other ActivityPub services actually support that?
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[Tim_Nolte] I'm not clear on what you mean whether other ActivityPub services support it? If they make a request and I rewrite it on the server and they get the correct response does that make a difference?
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GWG So, you are saying you rewrite an HTTP_ACCEPT header to a query param? Does that work?
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GWG It sounds like it would, I've just never tried that.
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GWG [snarfed]: https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/174 I'm adding a single setting that will swap between the two
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] #174 Drop webmention vs micropub options
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[snarfed] GWG++ ...but really you should consider choosing one and removing the user-visible option altogether
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Loqi GWG has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (61 in all channels)
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[snarfed] Users still won't know why to choose one or the other
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[snarfed] And they shouldn't really have to
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GWG I agree, but I want to keep the functionality for debugging purposes. I'll see what I can do to tweak it.
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[snarfed] Maybe use a debug constant or something similar to trigger it then, ie not something with visible UI
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GWG I'm putting it behind the WP_DEBUG option.
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[snarfed] And not in UI? Awesome!
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GWG [snarfed]: No, the WP_DEBUG option being enabled will show the option in the UI, but otherwise it won't.
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[snarfed] Ahh got it. Sounds great!
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GWG Okay, added a path for additional logic to disable the checkbox if the token field is empty.. I'm not sure how to validate the token
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[pfefferle] [Tim_Nolte] I have no idea if that works but maybe give it a try. There is already a possibility to show the json by adding „/activitypub“ behind every author, post or page URL. For example https://notiz.blog/2022/11/14/the-at-protocol/activitypub/ Maybe you can redirect to this page!
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Loqi [preview] Vor zwei Jahren wollte Twitter in das „Dezentrale Netzwerke“-Business einsteigen und gründete eigens dafür das Projekt Bluesky. In den folgenden zwei Jahren wurde viel evaluiert und diskutiert, was wohl die beste Lösung für Twitter sei und wi...
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GWG I need some thoughts on Syndication Links if anyone is using the current version
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[Tim_Nolte] [pfefferle] ah, perfect, I didn't realize that endpoint existed. That is exactly what I will try using!
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[Tim_Nolte] [pfefferle] ++
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Loqi [pfefferle] has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (17 in all channels)
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starrwulfe[m] GWG: I think there should be an explanation of what does what a little bit better. I’m using a combination of micropub and webmention depending on the service thanks to [snarfed] helping me out earlier.
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starrwulfe[m] Twitter doesn’t like the content type coming from micropub option so webmentions for them. Everyone else gets a micropub option if they have it.
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starrwulfe[m] If there’s a way to pot tooltips or popovers to explain things a bit in the plugin instructions, it’d be welcome
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GWG starrwulfe[m]: [snarfed] encouraged me to not give people a choice.
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GWG starrwulfe[m]: What content type?
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starrwulfe[m] [pfefferle]: sometimes I’m getting that /activityweb screen without that suffix somehow. Was wondering what that was; now I know.
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starrwulfe[m] GWG: All of them. With the micropub setting for twitter I only ever get the link sent to Bridgy in the content field.
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starrwulfe[m] If there was a way to customize that a la the ActivityPub plugin…
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GWG starrwulfe[m]: Well, I want to improve the logic. Can you show me an example of a post that would end up going by the link?
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[tw2113_Slack_] oh no, Jason found me 😛
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starrwulfe[m] Unfortunately I deleted it earlier from my Twitter feed and reposted correctly but let me see if Bridgy still has it listed
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starrwulfe[m] [tw2113_Slack_]?? Me ??
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[tw2113_Slack_] Jason Tucker, just joined the channel a moment ago
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[tw2113_Slack_] i recognize him from the larger WP community
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starrwulfe[m] Oh! 🤣 yeah I’m “not so important Jason” lol
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GWG I might need to go back and forth with [snarfed] about how my logic can mesh with his logic.
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[snarfed] sure
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[snarfed] they don't necessarily need to mesh, you're welcome to choose exactly how you want Synd Links to POSSE to Twitter
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[snarfed] by using either Micropub or https://brid.gy/about#silo-content for webmention trigger. up to you!
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starrwulfe[m] Here you go, I kinda documented what happened in the tweet comment below it
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starrwulfe[m] https://twitter.com/starrwulfe/status/1615355506490482688?s=46&t=o4X-CoL9LGEt5f36Dc9eQw
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@StarrWulfe - https://starrwulfe.xyz/2088-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1615355506490482688)
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starrwulfe[m] And the link has some of what I was telling [pfefferle] with that strange AP JSON getting thrown back at us to boot
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[snarfed] ^ GWG, Bridgy logs show that Synd Links sent "- https://starrwulfe.xyz/2088-2/" as the content property in that Micropub request
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Loqi [preview] [J L Gatewood] I’d better remember to make a top level "/feeds" page and stick it in the menu since folks are(should be)… gettin’ back to basics on the innanetz and RSS feeds are a better way to track most websites than relying on a social media site to do it...
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GWG Yes, was more looking for advice.
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GWG Especially if I'm hiding the alternative
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[snarfed] the default would be \
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[snarfed] er, sorry
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[snarfed] the default would be to match Bridgy's current behavior: "[title] - [link]" for articles, truncated content for notes
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[snarfed] does that post of starrwulfe's maybe have the title "-" somehow, which Synd Links interpreted as not empty?
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starrwulfe[m] I didn’t give a title so something’s inserting that dash
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GWG Sorry, had a bit of a crisis here.
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GWG Be back shortly.
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