#indiewebcamp 2015-05-26

2015-05-26 UTC
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GWG
All in all, a productive weekend.
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GWG
Did a bunch of different things.
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GWG
Updates to various parts of my code.
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Loqi
acegiak: GWG left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: Are you willing to beta test Version 2.0 of Post Kinds before I move on to more enhancements? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-24/line/1432511416675
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GWG
acegiak: I guess I should ask for an answer now?
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acegiak
ahahaha
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acegiak
is it checked into github?
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Loqi
hahahaha
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GWG
acegiak: Yes. I still have some tweaks I want to make, but the new version would allow you to write a 'play' display class extended off the generic display class and customize as needed.
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acegiak
GWG: what did we decide about where the h-cite goes?
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acegiak
also: screenshot section of readme has dead links
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GWG
acegiak: I think I've come up with an idea. I want to loop in pfefferle to see if he would add it to SemPress.
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GWG
acegiak: Basically, it was based on an idea of yours from way back
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GWG
acegiak: Add a div class='e-content' to the_content filter at a priority level of 1. Anything that adds to the_content filter should therefore be outside of e-content.
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GWG
Then I can remove the extra code from the theme.
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GWG
For unsupported themes, this would still work as if the theme didn't declare microformats2 support, which both SemPress and mf2_s do, then Post Kinds would do it
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acegiak
oh wow! yeah! I like it!
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acegiak
GWG: just backing up my wordpress before installing post kinds 2.0
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GWG
acegiak++
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Loqi
acegiak has 18 karma
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GWG
I still have a lot of tweaking I want to do, but I completely reorganized the code, rewrote large sections of it...
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GWG
And duration is there
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GWG
I also added in the parsing code I wrote for Indie-WebActions. If you leave the title blank on a URL post, it will try to get it for you when you save.
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GWG
Hmm...probably should have a global setting to turn that off.
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GWG
It will also sideload a featured image if it can find one.
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acegiak
thanks for including duration
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GWG
I have to figure out what else to use it for.
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GWG
It covers watch, listen, and play.
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GWG
There are also dozens of other under the hood improvements I want to iterate on. The metadata will now look for information in mf2_in_reply_to as well as mf2_cite, for example.
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dietrich
tantek___: aaronpk bret i'll be up in vancouverrrr
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Loqi
dietrich: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 12 minutes ago: the next Homebrew Website Club meetup is coming up? Are you able to host in Portland on 2015-06-03? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432577627897
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acegiak
ugh. because it's now in the post content, any h-cite that has a tumblr link is also magically embedding the tumblr post thanks to the bullshit they brought in in wordpress 4.2
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acegiak
and apparently there isn't an option to disable the autoembedding?
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acegiak
seriously what the fuck
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GWG
acegiak: I 'improved' that.
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GWG
acegiak: There is an option to disable it.
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GWG
I forgot to write it into the new code
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GWG
See...you've helped me already.
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acegiak
lol :P
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GWG
acegiak: Fixed
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GWG
And pushed
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GWG
I told you I rewrote everything.
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GWG
But tell me if you have any other issues before I push to .org
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acegiak
but still, wordpress itself has no off switch for autoembeds and that's fucked
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GWG
acegiak: Agreed.
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acegiak
GWG: awesome, everything looks sane again. thanks!
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GWG
acegiak: Will push to the WordPress repository then.
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GWG
acegiak: Tell me if you notice or think of anything else
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acegiak
will do
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KevinMarks__
Did you see my auto embed idea?
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acegiak
KevinMarks__: oh that's neat!
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acegiak
man, I love the html5 video tag.
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acegiak
why does wordpress feel the need to mess with it with extra js wrapper nonsense?
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GWG
acegiak: What do you mean?
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acegiak
if you use wordpress's default add media button it adds a shortcode that creates wordpress's javascript enhanced html5 media player
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acegiak
when all I want is a video tag
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acegiak
to me it looks like hiding away "complicated" html tags with equally complicated shortcodes
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KartikPrabhu
!tell tommorris it seems my security level has gone down to B because of the whole logjam thing. But I don't understand if that is my erroe, my cert providers error or the hosting companies error! The resolution is so un-understandable! ref: https://weakdh.org/
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
yeah that site kind of sucks in usability
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tantek
which is unsurprising for thing security relatd, which ironically hurts security (bad usability about security)
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KartikPrabhu
yeah. If you don't already know how to solve it, their site is of no help
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tantek
on another topic, the 4.0.1 release of the iOS Flickr app claims to have "Share to Instagram" as a feature
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tantek
this makes me wonder if Flickr could be used as a conduit to post to Instagram
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KartikPrabhu
so POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to Instagram?
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tantek
right
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tantek
I suppose this is of most interest to benwerd and anyone else POSSEs regularly to Flickr
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tantek
!tell benwerd,snarfed,kylewm I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed
tantek: interesting! do you know if it actually uses some (maybe closed) api, as opposed to just opening it in the instagram app locally?
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek left you a message on 5/23 at 6:43am: your checkin https://snarfed.org/2014-11-13_11514 has an error in its attempt to use class="u-featured" as the same element has class="shadow". Multiple class attributes disallowed in HTML. Class names must be combined: class="u-featured shadow" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-23/line/1432388591543
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432613474202
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snarfed
maybe try it?
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tantek
that's a good question
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tantek
of course I have to wait for the darn iOS apps to finish downloading and installing :/
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tantek
snarfed: did that makes sense about the extra class attribute in your markup?
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snarfed
sure! definitely
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snarfed
thank you!
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snarfed
added to my list
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tantek
I was looking closely at all your checkins, studying what you were doing
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snarfed
oh god i'm sorry
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tantek
well every real world example helps!
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snarfed
:P true!
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tantek
helps push the boundaries of our collective knowledge and experience :)
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tantek
especially useful are the various examples with 1-2 photo(s) and with 1-2 people
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snarfed
thanks!
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snarfed
i know it's contrarian, but i've never really been a fan maps in checkins
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snarfed
they just don't communicate much about whatever you were actually doing
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tantek
makes sense
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snarfed
to each their own!
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tantek
I really appreciate everyone's different approaches to presentation for their different (even if implicit) post types.
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Vendan
tantek, isn't it more likely that that "share to instagram" is using the document interaction thing to just pass it to the instagram app?
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tantek
Vendan - I think snarfed asked the same question ;)
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tantek
I'm still waiting for the darn app updates to finish so I can test it
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tantek
native app updates are dumb - there's this limbo period where you can't use the app because it's updating. so dumb.
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tantek
web apps don't have that problem
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tantek
nativemobileapps--
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Loqi
nativemobileapps has -1 karma
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Vendan
custom app + android emulator -> share to IG
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Vendan
err POSSE to IG
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GWG
Okay...another update pushed.
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GWG
I feel psyched to do more.
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tantek
!tell snarfed,Vendan Flickr 4.0.1/iOS experiment complete. As you both suspected, there is no actual Instagram integration, but rather only *after* you've uploaded a photo to Flickr, then you can "share" it to IG, which just passes it to the Instagram app's upload UI.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
pfefferle: I left you a question on a SemPress issue
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pfefferle
good morning GWG
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Loqi
pfefferle: tantek left you a message 1 week, 5 days ago: Does your site publish/notify PuSH 0.4? Sounds like it since you said you're using the PubSubHubbub Plugin, and the description says it "supports PubSubHubbub v0.4". https://indiewebcamp.com/PubSubHubbub#Matthias_Pfefferle Since when has that plugin supported v0.4? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-13/line/1431553056570
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GWG
Good morning, pfefferle
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pfefferle
GWG yes, I saw it this morning
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GWG
pfefferle: I'm curious your opinion when you have a moment.
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pfefferle
GWG me too :)
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GWG
pfefferle: Always a pleasure.
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pfefferle
GWG have to think about it… I like you thought, but it feels a bit hacky...
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GWG
pfefferle: I have been struggling to find an alternative. But this seems to solve more problems than it would create.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek
pfefferle: I don't quite understand
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tantek
not asking about the plugin - asking about when you deployed to *your site*
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pfefferle
tantek since the changes of the plugin, because that’s why i am working on it ;)
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tantek
could you update https://indiewebcamp.com/PubSubHubbub#Matthias_Pfefferle with those dates of when you updated your site to send PuSH 0.4 notifications of your HTML updates?
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pfefferle
tantek ok, will do
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tantek
see others in that list for examples
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tantek
trying to really see if everyone is up to 0.4 now, with HTML
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tantek.com
edited /Webmention (+641) "/* Discovery in PHP */ some simple PHP to handle webmention discovery from inside an HTML document"
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pfefferle
GWG sure! the best way would be an action or a widget area for each post, but that had to be part of the core… And because it is not, there seem to be no other way… still feels a bit hacky ;)
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tantek
is slowly making his way towards sending automatic webmentions to in-reply-to URLs
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tantek.com
edited /Webmention (+54) "/* Discovery in PHP */ prioritize simpler, shorter, flatter code over OO"
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@t
making progress on short, simple, flat open source code for webmention discovery in HTTP&HTML: https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP (ttk.me t4bM1)
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@topgold
Emerging #indieweb discussion on open standards of Webmention Discovery: https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+77) "/* improve replies details */ prioritize sending webmentions to in-reply-to links to the top of replies details"
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+1) "/* Working On */ bump improve replies details to top, per focus on automating webmention to in-reply-to URLs"
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Loqi
[bridgy] Richard Stallman replied '@t Open Source misses the point! gnu.org/philosophy/ope…' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP (https://twitter.com/rmsthebot/status/603108730297839616)
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tantek
lol it's a bot
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tantek
maybe not quite, more like just parody
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tantek
invites a bunch of people to the next HWC SF, closes IRC to miss the bridgy flood. ;)
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tantek
good night!
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Loqi
buenas noches
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Dym_
hello, that kind of "dt-*" classes would you consider on year/month/day links on archive pages? #microformats2
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Dym_
just "dt-year"/month/day?
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petermolnar
oh. facebook depricated the whole api to access it's messaging system without a replacement a month ago. nice. ( I know it's not indieweb, but I don't have anywhere else to share with an audience who'd understand )
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Dym_
@petermolnar your own indiewebsite and repost to twitter is the right way to share it :)
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petermolnar
since I'm about to drop most of my social media usage, incl. twitter, no, it would not :)
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Dym_
can someone check if date-related microformats classes on my archive pages making sense: https://dym.cx/d
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Dym_
also, i tried to login into IWC, and it said "There was an SSL error connecting to https://dym.cx/"
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cweiske
Dym_, indieauth.com only trusts the official CAs
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Loqi
cweiske: kylewm left you a message on 5/22 at 11:25am: you were right, it's because there is no link rel="self" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-22/line/1432319153159
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Loqi
cweiske: tantek left you a message on 5/22 at 1:53pm: re: rel=self required by Woodwind - I recall a conversation with aaronpk where we concluded that if there is no rel=self, that implied rel=self to the page itself was a good way of handling that, to make the common case even easier for publishers. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-22/line/1432328006141
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cweiske
tantek_, I found the conversation about rel=self, it's http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-18#t1426690743557 and opened an issue for it on the push spec: https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36
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GWG
petermolnar: I might have a solution for you on the Facebook thing.'
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petermolnar
which one, the reactions issue? KevinMarks helped me solve that yesterday
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GWG
The Messaging one you mentioned
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petermolnar
oh, I'm all ears
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GWG
petermolnar: I also have something I'm curious to get your take on too.
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GWG
petermolnar: https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/35 I suggested this to pfefferle for SemPress after some deliberation. He commented it seemed a bit 'hacky'. But I still can't think of a better solution outside of core, and core has not cooperated with me.
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petermolnar
GWG I know about the xmpp workaround; the issue is that it will not show group messages
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GWG
petermolnar: I think the individual is working on that
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cweiske
does someone know how to configure apache to send the correct rel=self link headers for all files?
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GWG
pfefferle: How many different ways can you think to do post types such as like on WordPress?
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pfefferle
GWG ???
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GWG
I just rewrote Post Kinds
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GWG
I want to make it as open as possible
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pfefferle
GWG you mean an alternative to the custom taxonomy=
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dariusdunlap
Whoa! wp-admin update of plugins just crashed Firefox. Hard. Whole thing went down.
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dariusdunlap
Restoring session
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dariusdunlap
Well, WP says that my plugins are now up-to-date. Hmmm. Troubling.
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dariusdunlap
… and Indieweb Post Kinds 2.0 and Syndication Links 2.0 are now live on darius.dunlaps.net — need to test, but right now I have a meeting.
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petermolnar
that ain't good
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Loqi
hehe
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petermolnar
US people: in case a service refuses to delete my login and their ToS is not mentioning anything related to this, what can I do?
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csarven
petermolnar Not legal advice: create many new accounts with variations on the (user)name and other profile information.
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csarven
Or... just walk away.
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csarven
Or... kindly get a hold of someone else from that company and ask for the deletion.
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csarven
I suggest exhausting that last possibility first because it is probably the easiest with least amount of friction.
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Loqi
[bridgy] вкαя∂εℓℓ favorited a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP (https://twitter.com/t/status/603106928458276864)
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kylewm
bridgy is coming
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Loqi
kylewm: tantek left you a message on 5/25 at 3:27pm: thanks much! gave me an excuse to add more code/support to /Falcon too :) Also could you make me a co-host of the FB event? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432592849322
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Loqi
kylewm: tantek left you a message 11 hours, 32 minutes ago: I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432613474202
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oddvar
hmm
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 5/24 at 4:19pm: does this make sense to you, as people that post /food /posts? http://indiewebcamp.com/food#Are_drinks_really_food http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-24/line/1432509559646
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 5/25 at 11:13am: the next Homebrew Website Club meetup is coming up? Are you able to host in Portland on 2015-06-03? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432577627897
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LanceyWork
oogly moogly
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LanceyWork
sounds like a hell of an event
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tantek
LanceyWork: you know it! Epic things have been Known to be discussed and even built at such events.
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tantek
aaronpk - either of those !tells make sense to you?
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tantek
amongst the delayed bridgy flood? (invites went out not long after midnight last night)
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tantek.com
edited /meme (+48) "reshorten dfn, move generic bloat to separate sentence following, focus on indieweb context, add see also section"
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aaronpk
hmm i'm not sure about the food thing
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tantek
do you track your water intake?
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aaronpk
everything except water
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tantek
juice?
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aaronpk
mostly cause i drink so much water and not in easily measurable quantities
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tantek
water with a lemon slice in it? ;)
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aaronpk
yeah i do log juice, i just don't drink very much
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snarfed
hey aaronpk, just out of curiosity, are we still all on the same page that https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/39 is the right long term solution to bridgy floods here?
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek left you a message 9 hours, 50 minutes ago: Flickr 4.0.1/iOS experiment complete. As you both suspected, there is no actual Instagram integration, but rather only *after* you've uploaded a photo to Flickr, then you can "share" it to IG, which just passes it to the Instagram app's upload UI. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432622346836
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aaronpk
snarfed: yeah that is still my plan
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snarfed
cool, np, just checking
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aaronpk
making IRC look more like what you see on instagram rather than a full log
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@gigastacey
I wish I could claim it as my own brand of evil genius, but it is not. I'd mildly injure for my podcast archives. https://twitter.com/AlbrechtChris/status/603229278373740544
(twitter.com/_/status/603231754581716993)
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@benwerd
Realizing I want to be in the UK from the end of July (for IndieWebCamp Edinburgh) to the end of August. That can't cost much, right?
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aaronpk
kylewm: lol "Now let's convince a Micropub client to post to SiloPub."
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ben_thatmustbeme
what is silopub?
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endi
Hey all, reading through the Getting Started page and I'm wondering if there's a good example of an open source self-hosted URL shortening solution. I've gone through setting up the likes of a bit.ly w/ a personal URL but I'm wondering about the backend + analytics
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endi
nvm i guess i overlooked the line about Whistle
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KevinMarks
silopub is http://silo.pub a micropub bridge to Blogger, Wordpress and Tumblr
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kylewm.com
edited /Feverdream (-91) "reference silopub"
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snarfed
endi: out of curiosity, what's your use case for short urls?
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kylewm.com
created /silopub (+276) "Created page with "<dfn>silo.pub</dfn> is a [[Micropub]] endpoint for hosted blogs like [[Tumblr]], [[WordPress.com]], and [[Blogger]]. It aims to implement the ideas laid out in the post [https://...""
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kylewm.com
edited /silopub (+20) "/* See Also */"
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endi
in the short term, saving space in syndicated posts; learning how to set it up, seeing what's possible on the backend/analytics side with a self hosted solution. philosophically, keeping the data under my control and possession :)
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endi
long term we'll see, as soon as I can grab en.di :p
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endi
now to start a country I can abbreviate .di
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snarfed
endi: understood, saving chars in e.g. tweets was the standard use case, but they stopped counting url chars a while ago
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endi
yeah, it's aesthetics more than anything with a name like mine
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snarfed
so since then i've been curious about any other reasons. most of the ones that still make sense to me are offline (speaking them, writing/printing, etc)
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endi
e.g. avoiding "https://social.andrejstefanovski.com/###/##/##/possibly-wordy-title-of-post"
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snarfed
ah, sure. aesthetics makes sense too. alternatively you could just migrate to en.di entirely :P
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snarfed
and/or migrate to shorter url design
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endi
yeah andrej.com and stefanovski.com aren't being helpful w/ that :p
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endi
they both seemed abandoned so I inquired and they immediately renewed for 10 yrs >_<
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endi
but yeah, I've used URL shortening before printing things like QR codes or writing to NFC stickers
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endi
I ran a facebook giveaway for a company a while back where I personally wanted some insight into engagement so I printing QR Code at one event that went to shortened URL and at another event a different shorted URL.
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endi
this gave quick and dirty analytics of who scanned the QR Code where
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KevinMarks
what did the data look like on that endi?
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endi
It looked like QR codes don't work lol
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KevinMarks
nice to have that confirmed empirically (again)
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endi
yeah, of about 4,500 people interested and each handed entry cards the size of a business card there were like 65 people that actually scanned it
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endi
definitely skewed android as well
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endi
KevinMarks: LOL that is hilarious
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snarfed
jwz on indieweb: "In what way is my life improved by hosting things that I created on a web site controlled by someone else?" http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/05/flickr-download-counter-countermeasures-applied/#comment-162540
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zachdonovan
afternoon, everybody!
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kylewm
snarfed: that podcast i pointed you and GWG at, they made a weird statement about Wordpress's core development being "siloed" away from everyone else because it wasn't on Github
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snarfed
kylewm: lol at the concept skew…but i get the spirit of the idea
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snarfed
github is a de facto standard place to collaborate on code now (for better or worse), so other places feel "nonstandard"
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KevinMarks
is wp-core on git now?
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@ElenaPr38447314
RT @SecuringPHP: Chris Shiflett (@shiflett) has posted about using IndieAuth for authentication using your own domain: http://t.co/ElWXNDXC…
(twitter.com/_/status/603264930826031104)
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kylewm
KevinMarks: no, still SVN and Trac
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GWG
WordPress has a github repository that is autosynced to the svn one
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GWG
I understand WordPress being against breaking things, but it really annoys me sometimes
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ben_thatmustbeme
ugh #cordova has been useless for getting questions answered
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ben_thatmustbeme
still can't figure out getting the share link from twitter
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ben_thatmustbeme
and thus shim "share -> Like via mobilepub"
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ben_thatmustbeme
anyone else have any experience with cordova / phonegap?
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tantek
reads logs
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tantek
petermolnar: what social media sites are you dropping first? re: "about to drop most of my social media usage"
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tantek
and do you mind documenting the process of doing so? would be good to read your thoughts.
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tantek
cweiske++ Thanks for finding the rel=self discussion and filing https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36 - added some follow-up with specific proposal to hopefully help move it along.
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Loqi
cweiske has 30 karma
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GWG
!tell dariusdunlap Keep me posted on any problems you might have with Syndication Links or Post Kinds 2.0
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
wonders if he should bother cc'ing aaronpk about https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36 since he's already cc'd in cweiske's original issue text
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aaronpk
good proposal
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tantek
pretty sure I maintained back compat while making it easier for publisehrs
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tantek
s/publisehrs/publishers
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: pretty sure I maintained back compat while making it easier for publishers
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dariusdunlap
GWG: Sure thing. Not sure when I’ll get back to it, but I’ll let you know how things go with Syndication Links and Post KInds (2.0 versions)
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Loqi
dariusdunlap: GWG left you a message 1 minute ago: Keep me posted on any problems you might have with Syndication Links or Post Kinds 2.0 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-26/line/1432666474827
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tantek
!tell julien51 thanks again for pointing out that the ball was dropped with failing to ask you about latest PuSH 0.4 licensing etc. I've made sure that Social Web WG (harry or more likely sandro) will follow-up with you specifically. Really appreciate your patience on this.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk
speaking of PuSH... one thing that keeps coming up as an itch for me is wanting non-public-IP devices to be able to subscribe to PuSH updates
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aaronpk
thinking i might write a little service that clients can connect to via websockets or eventsource that makes the PuSH subscription for them
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wwelves.org perpetual-tripper
edited /IndieAuth (+120) "/* Details */ added IndieCert"
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tantek
aaronpk perhaps add to /PuSH#Brainstorming ?
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aaronparecki.com
edited /PubSubHubbub (+425) "/* Discussion */"
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kylewm
is there not some generic way to handle that NAT case? (like not specific to PuSH)
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aaronpk
there's the ssh tunnel trick
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aaronpk
there's always at least one service running, but it seems to change every couple years
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aaronpk
it's a pretty good solution
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kylewm
i guess you could also forward a port in your firewall to :80 on the device
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aaronpk
of course you can, but that's not always desirable and not always possilbe
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aaronpk
like if you don't have access to the router, because you're at your office, or in a coffee shop
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aaronpk
or if you're trying to build something for someone that Just Works™ when they plug it in at home
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petermolnar
I'd say ipv6, but we all know that's not there yet
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kylewm
yeah, NAT is a huge bummer in general :)
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tantek
Internet of PuSHy things?
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notizblog.org
edited /PubSubHubbub (+44) "/* Matthias Pfefferle */"
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tantek
and another PuSH 0.4 + h-entry supporter confirmed
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@JosephRooks
@tcarmody Medium is really turning the "open" "independence" bullshit up to 11 lately. @kevinmarks #IndieWeb
(twitter.com/_/status/603307713477615616)
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bear
@aaronpk you may be able to use signalmaster - it's a super simple NAT traversal tool we wrote for SimpleWebRTC
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bear
we even run a public accessible version of it
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ben_thatmustbeme
realized he can syndicate posts to tumblr now via silopub
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ben_thatmustbeme
i just need to work the logic out correctly here
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: is that because Bridgy Publish supports publishing to micropub?
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tantek
and then you can just connect them together like pipes?
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KevinMarks
ooh, hadn't thought of that
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KevinMarks
or rather, had thought of silopub for POSSE, hadn't thought of bridgy publish
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tantek
I mean, Bridgy Publish already supports publishing to a bunch of snowflakes, so why not add micropub to that mix?
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snarfed
i'm not really following
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KartikPrabhu
!tell Dym_ good question about dt-* on h-feed pages http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-26#t1432639369998 I don't think there is a standard way to do it yet and the only use-case I can think of is for readers to know the date pages, but no reader supports that yet
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed
do you mean, as an incoming API? alongside the interactive UI and webmention trigger?
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tantek
snarfed: no outgoing
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tantek
Bridgy Publish as micropub client
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snarfed
huh. yeah i don't follow. the input would be…a web page? like now?
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snarfed
what's the use case?
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snarfed
oh. syndicating to silo.pub?
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KevinMarks
say I want to take http://www.kevinmarks.com/mentionquote.html and POSSE ti around
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tantek
no more need to extend Bridgy Publish in the cases where SiloPub already supports a silo
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KevinMarks
give it to bridgy publish and it shows up on the silopub silos
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snarfed
i guess
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snarfed
seems a little contorted
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snarfed
but feel free to file issues and send PRs!
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kylewm
I have been wanting an arbitrary h-feed -> micropub pipe for a long time!
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kylewm
indieifttt
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aaronpk
ifftie?
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tantek
still working out the logic of when to do a head request vs. get the HTML body (if any) etc. when doing webmention endpoint discovery
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tantek
I know - this is some basic stuff for most of you - I may be overthinking it ;)
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@Harposhhhh
New video out. June 4th. #comingsoon #youtube #hipstersnazis #hipster #comedy #BackInBlack #indieweb #indieartist https://twitter.com/Harposhhhh/status/603345985771679744/photo/1
(twitter.com/_/status/603345985771679744)
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cweiske
at first a head request; check link headers there
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cweiske
if I get an error status code, I stop.
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cweiske
if there are no link headers and the content type is not some html, I stop
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cweiske
then I do a get request
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cweiske
extract link headers from there
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cweiske
you've also to check for METHOD NOT ALLOWED errors in your HEAD request and re-fetch with GET in that case
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tantek
cweiske - that makes sense - thanks for confirming
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@davidpeach1
Well my webmention code seems to have gone live without a hitch. For the moment.
(twitter.com/_/status/603348704360280064)
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