#indiewebcamp 2015-05-26

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GWG All in all, a productive weekend.
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GWG Did a bunch of different things.
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GWG Updates to various parts of my code.
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acegiak neat!
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Loqi acegiak: GWG left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: Are you willing to beta test Version 2.0 of Post Kinds before I move on to more enhancements? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-24/line/1432511416675
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GWG acegiak: I guess I should ask for an answer now?
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acegiak ahahaha
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acegiak is it checked into github?
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Loqi hahahaha
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GWG acegiak: Yes. I still have some tweaks I want to make, but the new version would allow you to write a 'play' display class extended off the generic display class and customize as needed.
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acegiak GWG: what did we decide about where the h-cite goes?
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acegiak also: screenshot section of readme has dead links
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GWG acegiak: I think I've come up with an idea. I want to loop in pfefferle to see if he would add it to SemPress.
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acegiak cool
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GWG acegiak: Basically, it was based on an idea of yours from way back
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GWG acegiak: Add a div class='e-content' to the_content filter at a priority level of 1. Anything that adds to the_content filter should therefore be outside of e-content.
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GWG Then I can remove the extra code from the theme.
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GWG For unsupported themes, this would still work as if the theme didn't declare microformats2 support, which both SemPress and mf2_s do, then Post Kinds would do it
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acegiak oh wow! yeah! I like it!
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Data (+369) (view diff)
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acegiak GWG: just backing up my wordpress before installing post kinds 2.0
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GWG acegiak++
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Loqi acegiak has 18 karma
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GWG I still have a lot of tweaking I want to do, but I completely reorganized the code, rewrote large sections of it...
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GWG And duration is there
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GWG I also added in the parsing code I wrote for Indie-WebActions. If you leave the title blank on a URL post, it will try to get it for you when you save.
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GWG Hmm...probably should have a global setting to turn that off.
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GWG It will also sideload a featured image if it can find one.
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acegiak neat
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acegiak thanks for including duration
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GWG I have to figure out what else to use it for.
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GWG It covers watch, listen, and play.
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GWG There are also dozens of other under the hood improvements I want to iterate on. The metadata will now look for information in mf2_in_reply_to as well as mf2_cite, for example.
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dietrich tantek___: aaronpk bret i'll be up in vancouverrrr
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Loqi dietrich: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 12 minutes ago: the next Homebrew Website Club meetup is coming up? Are you able to host in Portland on 2015-06-03? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432577627897
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acegiak ugh. because it's now in the post content, any h-cite that has a tumblr link is also magically embedding the tumblr post thanks to the bullshit they brought in in wordpress 4.2
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acegiak and apparently there isn't an option to disable the autoembedding?
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acegiak seriously what the fuck
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GWG acegiak: I 'improved' that.
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GWG acegiak: There is an option to disable it.
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acegiak oh ok
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GWG I forgot to write it into the new code
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GWG See...you've helped me already.
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acegiak lol :P
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GWG acegiak: Fixed
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GWG And pushed
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acegiak takk!
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GWG I told you I rewrote everything.
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GWG But tell me if you have any other issues before I push to .org
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acegiak but still, wordpress itself has no off switch for autoembeds and that's fucked
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GWG acegiak: Agreed.
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acegiak GWG: awesome, everything looks sane again. thanks!
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GWG acegiak: Will push to the WordPress repository then.
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GWG acegiak: Tell me if you notice or think of anything else
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acegiak will do
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KevinMarks__ Did you see my auto embed idea?
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KevinMarks__ http://www.kevinmarks.com/mentionquote.html
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acegiak KevinMarks__: oh that's neat!
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acegiak man, I love the html5 video tag.
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acegiak why does wordpress feel the need to mess with it with extra js wrapper nonsense?
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GWG acegiak: What do you mean?
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acegiak if you use wordpress's default add media button it adds a shortcode that creates wordpress's javascript enhanced html5 media player
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acegiak when all I want is a video tag
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acegiak to me it looks like hiding away "complicated" html tags with equally complicated shortcodes
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KartikPrabhu !tell tommorris it seems my security level has gone down to B because of the whole logjam thing. But I don't understand if that is my erroe, my cert providers error or the hosting companies error! The resolution is so un-understandable! ref: https://weakdh.org/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek yeah that site kind of sucks in usability
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tantek which is unsurprising for thing security relatd, which ironically hurts security (bad usability about security)
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KartikPrabhu yeah. If you don't already know how to solve it, their site is of no help
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tantek on another topic, the 4.0.1 release of the iOS Flickr app claims to have "Share to Instagram" as a feature
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tantek this makes me wonder if Flickr could be used as a conduit to post to Instagram
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KartikPrabhu so POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to Instagram?
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tantek right
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tantek I suppose this is of most interest to benwerd and anyone else POSSEs regularly to Flickr
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tantek !tell benwerd,snarfed,kylewm I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed tantek: interesting! do you know if it actually uses some (maybe closed) api, as opposed to just opening it in the instagram app locally?
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message on 5/23 at 6:43am: your checkin https://snarfed.org/2014-11-13_11514 has an error in its attempt to use class="u-featured" as the same element has class="shadow". Multiple class attributes disallowed in HTML. Class names must be combined: class="u-featured shadow" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-23/line/1432388591543
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432613474202
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tantek heh
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snarfed maybe try it?
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tantek that's a good question
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tantek of course I have to wait for the darn iOS apps to finish downloading and installing :/
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tantek snarfed: did that makes sense about the extra class attribute in your markup?
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snarfed sure! definitely
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snarfed thank you!
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snarfed added to my list
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tantek I was looking closely at all your checkins, studying what you were doing
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snarfed oh god i'm sorry
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tantek well every real world example helps!
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snarfed :P true!
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tantek helps push the boundaries of our collective knowledge and experience :)
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tantek especially useful are the various examples with 1-2 photo(s) and with 1-2 people
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snarfed thanks!
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snarfed i know it's contrarian, but i've never really been a fan maps in checkins
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snarfed they just don't communicate much about whatever you were actually doing
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tantek makes sense
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snarfed to each their own!
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tantek I really appreciate everyone's different approaches to presentation for their different (even if implicit) post types.
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Vendan tantek, isn't it more likely that that "share to instagram" is using the document interaction thing to just pass it to the instagram app?
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tantek Vendan - I think snarfed asked the same question ;)
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tantek I'm still waiting for the darn app updates to finish so I can test it
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Vendan ahh
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tantek native app updates are dumb - there's this limbo period where you can't use the app because it's updating. so dumb.
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tantek web apps don't have that problem
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tantek nativemobileapps--
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Loqi nativemobileapps has -1 karma
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Vendan custom app + android emulator -> share to IG
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Vendan err POSSE to IG
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GWG Okay...another update pushed.
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GWG I feel psyched to do more.
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tantek !tell snarfed,Vendan Flickr 4.0.1/iOS experiment complete. As you both suspected, there is no actual Instagram integration, but rather only *after* you've uploaded a photo to Flickr, then you can "share" it to IG, which just passes it to the Instagram app's upload UI.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG pfefferle: I left you a question on a SemPress issue
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pfefferle good morning GWG
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Loqi pfefferle: tantek left you a message 1 week, 5 days ago: Does your site publish/notify PuSH 0.4? Sounds like it since you said you're using the PubSubHubbub Plugin, and the description says it "supports PubSubHubbub v0.4". https://indiewebcamp.com/PubSubHubbub#Matthias_Pfefferle Since when has that plugin supported v0.4? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-13/line/1431553056570
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GWG Good morning, pfefferle
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pfefferle GWG yes, I saw it this morning
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GWG pfefferle: I'm curious your opinion when you have a moment.
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pfefferle GWG me too :)
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GWG pfefferle: Always a pleasure.
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pfefferle GWG have to think about it… I like you thought, but it feels a bit hacky...
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GWG pfefferle: I have been struggling to find an alternative. But this seems to solve more problems than it would create.
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pfefferle !tall tantek I added a first draft in 2012 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/46c86dfe52614ae128f668e5a14ce15c58a189e7 but the final commit (that also supports arbitrary data) was 2013 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/0c10d0bddd74ba746276a50479da9b9ac2109a4a
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pfefferle !tell tantek I added a first draft in 2012 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/46c86dfe52614ae128f668e5a14ce15c58a189e7 but the final commit (that also supports arbitrary data) was 2013 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/0c10d0bddd74ba746276a50479da9b9ac2109a4a
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek pfefferle: I don't quite understand
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Loqi tantek: pfefferle left you a message 54 seconds ago: I added a first draft in 2012 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/46c86dfe52614ae128f668e5a14ce15c58a189e7 but the final commit (that also supports arbitrary data) was 2013 https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/wordpress-pubsubhubbub/commit/0c10d0bddd74ba746276a50479da9b9ac2109a4a http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-26/line/1432623946940
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tantek not asking about the plugin - asking about when you deployed to *your site*
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pfefferle tantek since the changes of the plugin, because that’s why i am working on it ;)
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tantek could you update https://indiewebcamp.com/PubSubHubbub#Matthias_Pfefferle with those dates of when you updated your site to send PuSH 0.4 notifications of your HTML updates?
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pfefferle tantek ok, will do
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tantek see others in that list for examples
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tantek trying to really see if everyone is up to 0.4 now, with HTML
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tantek.com edited /Webmention (+641) "/* Discovery in PHP */ some simple PHP to handle webmention discovery from inside an HTML document" (view diff)
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pfefferle GWG sure! the best way would be an action or a widget area for each post, but that had to be part of the core… And because it is not, there seem to be no other way… still feels a bit hacky ;)
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tantek is slowly making his way towards sending automatic webmentions to in-reply-to URLs
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tantek.com edited /Webmention (+54) "/* Discovery in PHP */ prioritize simpler, shorter, flatter code over OO" (view diff)
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@t making progress on short, simple, flat open source code for webmention discovery in HTTP&HTML: https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP (ttk.me t4bM1) (twitter.com/_/status/603106928458276864)
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@topgold Emerging #indieweb discussion on open standards of Webmention Discovery: https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention#Discovery_in_PHP (twitter.com/_/status/603108392396259328)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+77) "/* improve replies details */ prioritize sending webmentions to in-reply-to links to the top of replies details" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+1) "/* Working On */ bump improve replies details to top, per focus on automating webmention to in-reply-to URLs" (view diff)
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tantek lol it's a bot
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tantek maybe not quite, more like just parody
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tantek invites a bunch of people to the next HWC SF, closes IRC to miss the bridgy flood. ;)
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tantek good night!
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Loqi buenas noches
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KevinMarks__ Tantek's people first communication ideas spreading? http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/25/forget-internet-of-things-people
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Dym_ hello, that kind of "dt-*" classes would you consider on year/month/day links on archive pages? #microformats2
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Dym_ just "dt-year"/month/day?
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petermolnar oh. facebook depricated the whole api to access it's messaging system without a replacement a month ago. nice. ( I know it's not indieweb, but I don't have anywhere else to share with an audience who'd understand )
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Dym_ @petermolnar your own indiewebsite and repost to twitter is the right way to share it :)
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petermolnar since I'm about to drop most of my social media usage, incl. twitter, no, it would not :)
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Dym_ can someone check if date-related microformats classes on my archive pages making sense: https://dym.cx/d
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Dym_ also, i tried to login into IWC, and it said "There was an SSL error connecting to https://dym.cx/"
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cweiske Dym_, indieauth.com only trusts the official CAs
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Loqi cweiske: kylewm left you a message on 5/22 at 11:25am: you were right, it's because there is no link rel="self" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-22/line/1432319153159
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Loqi cweiske: tantek left you a message on 5/22 at 1:53pm: re: rel=self required by Woodwind - I recall a conversation with aaronpk where we concluded that if there is no rel=self, that implied rel=self to the page itself was a good way of handling that, to make the common case even easier for publishers. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-22/line/1432328006141
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cweiske tantek_, I found the conversation about rel=self, it's http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-18#t1426690743557 and opened an issue for it on the push spec: https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36
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GWG petermolnar: I might have a solution for you on the Facebook thing.'
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petermolnar which one, the reactions issue? KevinMarks helped me solve that yesterday
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GWG The Messaging one you mentioned
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petermolnar oh, I'm all ears
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GWG https://github.com/jgeboski/bitlbee-facebook/
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GWG petermolnar: I also have something I'm curious to get your take on too.
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GWG petermolnar: https://github.com/pfefferle/SemPress/issues/35 I suggested this to pfefferle for SemPress after some deliberation. He commented it seemed a bit 'hacky'. But I still can't think of a better solution outside of core, and core has not cooperated with me.
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petermolnar GWG I know about the xmpp workaround; the issue is that it will not show group messages
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GWG petermolnar: I think the individual is working on that
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cweiske does someone know how to configure apache to send the correct rel=self link headers for all files?
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GWG pfefferle: How many different ways can you think to do post types such as like on WordPress?
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pfefferle GWG ???
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GWG I just rewrote Post Kinds
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GWG I want to make it as open as possible
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pfefferle GWG you mean an alternative to the custom taxonomy=
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pfefferle ?
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dariusdunlap Whoa! wp-admin update of plugins just crashed Firefox. Hard. Whole thing went down.
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dariusdunlap Restoring session
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dariusdunlap Well, WP says that my plugins are now up-to-date. Hmmm. Troubling.
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dariusdunlap … and Indieweb Post Kinds 2.0 and Syndication Links 2.0 are now live on darius.dunlaps.net — need to test, but right now I have a meeting.
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petermolnar shit
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petermolnar https://wpvulndb.com/vulnerabilities/8008
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petermolnar that ain't good
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Loqi hehe
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petermolnar US people: in case a service refuses to delete my login and their ToS is not mentioning anything related to this, what can I do?
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csarven petermolnar Not legal advice: create many new accounts with variations on the (user)name and other profile information.
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csarven Or... just walk away.
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csarven Or... kindly get a hold of someone else from that company and ask for the deletion.
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csarven I suggest exhausting that last possibility first because it is probably the easiest with least amount of friction.
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@TheWritingGeek Learn it. Repeat it. Live it. #bookdesignhumor #selfpub #indieauth https://twitter.com/TheWritingGeek/status/603224157833338880/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/603224157833338880)
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@Inkwater_Masha Learn it. Repeat it. Live it. #bookdesignhumor #selfpub #indieauth https://twitter.com/Inkwater_Masha/status/603224157476802561/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/603224157476802561)
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message on 5/25 at 3:27pm: thanks much! gave me an excuse to add more code/support to /Falcon too :) Also could you make me a co-host of the FB event? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432592849322
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 11 hours, 32 minutes ago: I noticed the Flickr 4.0.1 for iOS (native app) claims to now have "Share to Instagram" - that hints that it might be possible to POSSE to Flickr to POSSE to IG. Thought you might be interested. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432613474202
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Loqi [bridgy] Kyle Huey RSVPed no to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/674781485961103#10204181889683168)
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oddvar hmm
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aaronpk http://meme.loqi.me/4bMZkoJ9.jpg
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 5/24 at 4:19pm: does this make sense to you, as people that post /food /posts? http://indiewebcamp.com/food#Are_drinks_really_food http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-24/line/1432509559646
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 5/25 at 11:13am: the next Homebrew Website Club meetup is coming up? Are you able to host in Portland on 2015-06-03? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432577627897
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LanceyWork oogly moogly
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LanceyWork sounds like a hell of an event
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tantek LanceyWork: you know it! Epic things have been Known to be discussed and even built at such events.
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tantek aaronpk - either of those !tells make sense to you?
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tantek amongst the delayed bridgy flood? (invites went out not long after midnight last night)
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tantek.com edited /meme (+48) "reshorten dfn, move generic bloat to separate sentence following, focus on indieweb context, add see also section" (view diff)
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aaronpk hmm i'm not sure about the food thing
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tantek do you track your water intake?
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aaronpk everything except water
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tantek juice?
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aaronpk mostly cause i drink so much water and not in easily measurable quantities
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tantek water with a lemon slice in it? ;)
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aaronpk yeah i do log juice, i just don't drink very much
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snarfed hey aaronpk, just out of curiosity, are we still all on the same page that https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/39 is the right long term solution to bridgy floods here?
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 9 hours, 50 minutes ago: Flickr 4.0.1/iOS experiment complete. As you both suspected, there is no actual Instagram integration, but rather only *after* you've uploaded a photo to Flickr, then you can "share" it to IG, which just passes it to the Instagram app's upload UI. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-25/line/1432622346836
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aaronpk snarfed: yeah that is still my plan
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snarfed cool, np, just checking
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aaronpk making IRC look more like what you see on instagram rather than a full log
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KevinMarks__ Site deaths https://twitter.com/gigastacey/status/603231754581716993
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@gigastacey I wish I could claim it as my own brand of evil genius, but it is not. I'd mildly injure for my podcast archives. https://twitter.com/AlbrechtChris/status/603229278373740544 (twitter.com/_/status/603231754581716993)
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@benwerd Realizing I want to be in the UK from the end of July (for IndieWebCamp Edinburgh) to the end of August. That can't cost much, right? (twitter.com/_/status/603237344984997889)
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aaronpk kylewm: lol "Now let's convince a Micropub client to post to SiloPub."
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ben_thatmustbeme what is silopub?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "silopub" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=silopub&summary=prompted+by+ben_thatmustbeme+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-26%2Fline%2F1432659065631
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ben_thatmustbeme tsk tsk
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endi Hey all, reading through the Getting Started page and I'm wondering if there's a good example of an open source self-hosted URL shortening solution. I've gone through setting up the likes of a bit.ly w/ a personal URL but I'm wondering about the backend + analytics
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endi nvm i guess i overlooked the line about Whistle
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KevinMarks silopub is http://silo.pub a micropub bridge to Blogger, Wordpress and Tumblr
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kylewm.com edited /Feverdream (-91) "reference silopub" (view diff)
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snarfed endi: out of curiosity, what's your use case for short urls?
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kylewm.com created /silopub (+276) "Created page with "<dfn>silo.pub</dfn> is a [[Micropub]] endpoint for hosted blogs like [[Tumblr]], [[WordPress.com]], and [[Blogger]]. It aims to implement the ideas laid out in the post [https://..."" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /silopub (+20) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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kylewm.com moved /silopub to /silo.pub
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endi in the short term, saving space in syndicated posts; learning how to set it up, seeing what's possible on the backend/analytics side with a self hosted solution. philosophically, keeping the data under my control and possession :)
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endi long term we'll see, as soon as I can grab en.di :p
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endi now to start a country I can abbreviate .di
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snarfed endi: understood, saving chars in e.g. tweets was the standard use case, but they stopped counting url chars a while ago
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endi yeah, it's aesthetics more than anything with a name like mine
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snarfed so since then i've been curious about any other reasons. most of the ones that still make sense to me are offline (speaking them, writing/printing, etc)
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endi e.g. avoiding "https://social.andrejstefanovski.com/###/##/##/possibly-wordy-title-of-post"
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snarfed ah, sure. aesthetics makes sense too. alternatively you could just migrate to en.di entirely :P
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snarfed and/or migrate to shorter url design
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endi yeah andrej.com and stefanovski.com aren't being helpful w/ that :p
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endi they both seemed abandoned so I inquired and they immediately renewed for 10 yrs >_<
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endi but yeah, I've used URL shortening before printing things like QR codes or writing to NFC stickers
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endi I ran a facebook giveaway for a company a while back where I personally wanted some insight into engagement so I printing QR Code at one event that went to shortened URL and at another event a different shorted URL.
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endi this gave quick and dirty analytics of who scanned the QR Code where
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Loqi [mention] http://kenzoid.com/2015/05/26/working-on-my-posse/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (webmention)
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KevinMarks what did the data look like on that endi?
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KevinMarks (I have had opinions here) http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012/01/qr-codes-bad-idea-or-terrible-idea.html
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endi It looked like QR codes don't work lol
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KevinMarks nice to have that confirmed empirically (again)
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KevinMarks I still think this is hilarious http://justinsomnia.org/2011/03/why-does-that-qr-code-take-me-to-justinsomnia-org/
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endi yeah, of about 4,500 people interested and each handed entry cards the size of a business card there were like 65 people that actually scanned it
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endi definitely skewed android as well
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Loqi [bridgy] Florian Weil retweeted a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions (https://twitter.com/derhess/status/603243921087590400)
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endi KevinMarks: LOL that is hilarious
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snarfed jwz on indieweb: "In what way is my life improved by hosting things that I created on a web site controlled by someone else?" http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/05/flickr-download-counter-countermeasures-applied/#comment-162540
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zachdonovan afternoon, everybody!
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kylewm snarfed: that podcast i pointed you and GWG at, they made a weird statement about Wordpress's core development being "siloed" away from everyone else because it wasn't on Github
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snarfed kylewm: lol at the concept skew…but i get the spirit of the idea
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snarfed github is a de facto standard place to collaborate on code now (for better or worse), so other places feel "nonstandard"
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KevinMarks is wp-core on git now?
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@ElenaPr38447314 RT @SecuringPHP: Chris Shiflett (@shiflett) has posted about using IndieAuth for authentication using your own domain: http://t.co/ElWXNDXC… (twitter.com/_/status/603264930826031104)
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kylewm KevinMarks: no, still SVN and Trac
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GWG WordPress has a github repository that is autosynced to the svn one
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GWG I understand WordPress being against breaking things, but it really annoys me sometimes
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ben_thatmustbeme ugh #cordova has been useless for getting questions answered
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ben_thatmustbeme still can't figure out getting the share link from twitter
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ben_thatmustbeme and thus shim "share -> Like via mobilepub"
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ben_thatmustbeme anyone else have any experience with cordova / phonegap?
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tantek reads logs
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tantek petermolnar: what social media sites are you dropping first? re: "about to drop most of my social media usage"
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tantek and do you mind documenting the process of doing so? would be good to read your thoughts.
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tantek cweiske++ Thanks for finding the rel=self discussion and filing https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36 - added some follow-up with specific proposal to hopefully help move it along.
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Loqi cweiske has 30 karma
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GWG !tell dariusdunlap Keep me posted on any problems you might have with Syndication Links or Post Kinds 2.0
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek wonders if he should bother cc'ing aaronpk about https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/issues/36 since he's already cc'd in cweiske's original issue text
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aaronpk i saw
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aaronpk good proposal
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tantek pretty sure I maintained back compat while making it easier for publisehrs
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tantek s/publisehrs/publishers
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Loqi tantek meant to say: pretty sure I maintained back compat while making it easier for publishers
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@elfpavlik RT @rhiaro: I posted: Micropubbing with json #indieweb #activitystreams @SocialWebWG http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/05/micropubbing-with (twitter.com/_/status/603273389319581698)
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dariusdunlap GWG: Sure thing. Not sure when I’ll get back to it, but I’ll let you know how things go with Syndication Links and Post KInds (2.0 versions)
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Loqi dariusdunlap: GWG left you a message 1 minute ago: Keep me posted on any problems you might have with Syndication Links or Post Kinds 2.0 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-26/line/1432666474827
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tantek !tell julien51 thanks again for pointing out that the ball was dropped with failing to ask you about latest PuSH 0.4 licensing etc. I've made sure that Social Web WG (harry or more likely sandro) will follow-up with you specifically. Really appreciate your patience on this.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk speaking of PuSH... one thing that keeps coming up as an itch for me is wanting non-public-IP devices to be able to subscribe to PuSH updates
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aaronpk thinking i might write a little service that clients can connect to via websockets or eventsource that makes the PuSH subscription for them
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tantek aaronpk perhaps add to /PuSH#Brainstorming ?
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kylewm is there not some generic way to handle that NAT case? (like not specific to PuSH)
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aaronpk there's the ssh tunnel trick
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aaronpk there's always at least one service running, but it seems to change every couple years
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aaronpk https://ngrok.com/
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aaronpk it's a pretty good solution
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kylewm i guess you could also forward a port in your firewall to :80 on the device
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aaronpk of course you can, but that's not always desirable and not always possilbe
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aaronpk like if you don't have access to the router, because you're at your office, or in a coffee shop
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aaronpk or if you're trying to build something for someone that Just Works™ when they plug it in at home
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petermolnar I'd say ipv6, but we all know that's not there yet
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kylewm yeah, NAT is a huge bummer in general :)
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tantek Internet of PuSHy things?
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tantek and another PuSH 0.4 + h-entry supporter confirmed
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@JosephRooks @tcarmody Medium is really turning the "open" "independence" bullshit up to 11 lately. @kevinmarks #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/603307713477615616)
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bear @aaronpk you may be able to use signalmaster - it's a super simple NAT traversal tool we wrote for SimpleWebRTC
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bear @aaronpk https://github.com/andyet/signalmaster
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bear we even run a public accessible version of it
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ben_thatmustbeme realized he can syndicate posts to tumblr now via silopub
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ben_thatmustbeme i just need to work the logic out correctly here
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: is that because Bridgy Publish supports publishing to micropub?
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tantek and then you can just connect them together like pipes?
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KevinMarks ooh, hadn't thought of that
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KevinMarks or rather, had thought of silopub for POSSE, hadn't thought of bridgy publish
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tantek I mean, Bridgy Publish already supports publishing to a bunch of snowflakes, so why not add micropub to that mix?
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snarfed i'm not really following
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KartikPrabhu !tell Dym_ good question about dt-* on h-feed pages http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-26#t1432639369998 I don't think there is a standard way to do it yet and the only use-case I can think of is for readers to know the date pages, but no reader supports that yet
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed do you mean, as an incoming API? alongside the interactive UI and webmention trigger?
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tantek snarfed: no outgoing
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tantek Bridgy Publish as micropub client
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snarfed huh. yeah i don't follow. the input would be…a web page? like now?
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tantek yes
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snarfed what's the use case?
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snarfed oh. syndicating to silo.pub?
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KevinMarks say I want to take http://www.kevinmarks.com/mentionquote.html and POSSE ti around
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tantek no more need to extend Bridgy Publish in the cases where SiloPub already supports a silo
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KevinMarks give it to bridgy publish and it shows up on the silopub silos
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snarfed i guess
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snarfed seems a little contorted
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snarfed but feel free to file issues and send PRs!
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kylewm I have been wanting an arbitrary h-feed -> micropub pipe for a long time!
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kylewm indieifttt
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aaronpk ifftie?
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tantek still working out the logic of when to do a head request vs. get the HTML body (if any) etc. when doing webmention endpoint discovery
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tantek I know - this is some basic stuff for most of you - I may be overthinking it ;)
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@Harposhhhh New video out. June 4th. #comingsoon #youtube #hipstersnazis #hipster #comedy #BackInBlack #indieweb #indieartist https://twitter.com/Harposhhhh/status/603345985771679744/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/603345985771679744)
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cweiske tantek, I do webmention discovery that way: https://github.com/pear2/Services_Linkback/blob/master/src/PEAR2/Services/Linkback/Client.php#L110
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cweiske at first a head request; check link headers there
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cweiske if I get an error status code, I stop.
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cweiske if there are no link headers and the content type is not some html, I stop
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cweiske then I do a get request
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cweiske extract link headers from there
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cweiske you've also to check for METHOD NOT ALLOWED errors in your HEAD request and re-fetch with GET in that case
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tantek cweiske - that makes sense - thanks for confirming
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@davidpeach1 Well my webmention code seems to have gone live without a hitch. For the moment. (twitter.com/_/status/603348704360280064)
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