#indiewebcamp 2015-07-11
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KevinMarks nice
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KartikPrabhu tantek nicely done
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@One2Ad_com RT @t: going to and at IndieWebCamp Pre-Party @pintsbrewing now! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2015/07/10/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party silo https://www.facebook.com/events/1007859082588398 (ttk.me t4c61) (twitter.com/_/status/619662599433621504)
# KevinMarks !tell benwerd I hope you feel better soon
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tantek those of you that markup the comments on your posts with microformats - would appreciate your markup review / criticism of my attempt to manually do so here: http://tantek.com/2015/190/b1/blinking-fever#blinking-fever-comments
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# KevinMarks should we iterate on that as part of the salmentions/swat0 work?
# tantek but the only place we have such “how to markup” guidance for that now is http://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#How_to_markup which I think is very out of date and not updated since people started marking up their comments on the posts
# tantek then update http://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#How_to_markup accordingliy
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @Chris_A_Marks: I don't use twitter (twitter.com/_/status/619675101730975744)
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# KevinMarks hm, did I tweet that, oops
# KevinMarks I was experimenting
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@JGolownia RT @jgarber: IndieWebCamp is this weekend in Brighton, UK and Portland, OR. Not in either of those places? Participate online! http://t.co/… (twitter.com/_/status/619676612414566400)
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Loqi [bridgy] Justin Golownia retweeted a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/JGolownia/status/619676612414566400)
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@benwerd I'm jealous of my friends at: 1) #indiewebcamp 2) #SDCC (twitter.com/_/status/619687110497337344)
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ben_thatmustbeme Sad I Will be missing the events tomorrow
# ben_thatmustbeme Well be online Sunday though
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bret http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6750 relevant.... actually super useful
# tantek bret - feel to review http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Technologies and later sections - that’s what I’ve been working on. Going to try to put that out in a blog post tonight.
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seekr ought not you fellas be abed by now? |-) :-)
# seekr It's nearly 04.00 GMT
# seekr oops 03.00
# seekr ah - you're on the left coast, then - ok - we'll let you stay up a while longer :)
# seekr I'm a newbie here, and have seen lots of tech talk going by - wondering how much of what happens on the weekend will be at that level - will there be a few people speaking English (or British or whatever)?
# seekr thanks, tantek - will do - checking now to see whether there's any more of a semblance of a schedule on the wiki than there was earlier today...
# tantek Portland: http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule
# seekr ah the grid (http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule) still looks extremely sparse, tantek
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# seekr not as such - but I have the capability to create one
# seekr nope - don't even know what it is - have been to a Podcamp (in Cambridge, MA) a couple times, tho
# seekr ah - good
# seekr I gotta poke through my IRC logs from this morning to see if I can find a link to previous years' grids (if they're still extant) - looking for some specific info
# seekr I wish I'd known about IndieWebCamp earlier, as I see there have been some events at MIT in Cambridge - could have gotten there easily (about 15 mins by bike)
# seekr could make for some interesting reading, and useful prep for the weekend, I s'pose, though
# seekr Will all presentations be made by people at the two venues (as opposed to people streaming from their own locations)?
# tantek seekr - perhaps start with http://indiewebcamp.com/principles and see which of those resonate with you
# seekr ok - thanks, tantek!
# seekr and will there be a setup that permits questions from the virtual audience?
# seekr ok - thanks - I'll peruse the wiki and get as much info as I can there - I'm sure you have better things to do than deal with newbie questions, and that much of what I want to know will be answered in the FAQs and elsewhere on the site - I hope the preps are going well
# seekr hi again, GWG
# seekr I've been lurking and logging since discovering the channel this morning - excited about what's happening on the weekend!
# seekr understood, tantek - but I wanna do enough of a review to make sure my questions are new newbie ones, if ya know what I mean :)
# tantek seekr speaking of which there’s also http://indiewebcamp.com/FAQ
# seekr I wish I'd known about the prior ones in Cambridge, MA, GWG, very close to where I've long lived :-\ ["better late than never," tho :) ]
# seekr right, tantek - I discovered the FAQ a while back - gonna turn my attention to it soon - thanks for pointing it out, tho
# ben_thatmustbeme seekr: since you are so close to my work and I can't really do much at night (as i have two infants to get home to help care for) maybe we can start doing some lunch meetups or something
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# seekr ben_thatmustbeme: I'd like to do so very much - thanks for the offer! I'll look forward to meeting and spending time with you!!
# ben_thatmustbeme still on that huh GWG?
# seekr Perhaps I can bring along a new MIT grad tech buddy some time with whom I hope to work on a semi-political site for a cause related to development in Somerville, where I live, ben_thatmustbeme .
# seekr I meant to say he's a new buddy - but graduated from MIT a few years ago, ben_thatmustbeme .
# ben_thatmustbeme seekr: that would be cool
# seekr great!
# ben_thatmustbeme seekr: I'm thinking maybe at the prudential center as I'm on the other side of the river and you would have a bike
# seekr yes, Jeff does also
# ben_thatmustbeme oh excellent
# seekr (he also has what looks like a motorcycle helmet to protect his skull :) )
# bret seekr: see http://indiewebify.me/ as well
# ben_thatmustbeme ah yes, indiewebify.me is a great way to start
# seekr will do, bret - thanks!
# ben_thatmustbeme okay, really should be in bed
# ben_thatmustbeme will probably connect from my phone there and be working on stuff anyway
# ben_thatmustbeme <= addicted
# seekr g'night, then, ben_thatmustbeme - I hope you and the family get a good rest
# seekr I'm in night mode, so will push on through until when things start in Brighton, which I reckon won't be too long from now.
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GWG I've been writing up some thoughts on the wiki in /location, as opposed to /notes
# ben_thatmustbeme seekr: you still have like 5 hours to wait for that
# seekr ah - well, I have lots to keep me busy (and a full lpot of tea) until that time, ben_thatmustbeme :)
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# ben_thatmustbeme Well enjoy the trip down the rabbit hole :P
# seekr :D
# seekr hope it ain't tooooo deep! ;)
# seekr What time do things start in Portland? The http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/ page is now auto-forwarding to the planning page, which does not have obvious links (maybe in the sidebar?) to a description of the weekend's activities. From a newbie perspective, at least, I think it might be useful to have such links featured prominently on what I think is supposed to be the main page for the event. (?)
# seekr Yeah - http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc seems more useful as a current home page than the planning one - to me, at least.
# seekr Also, we see on the "next-iwc" page the text " When: from July 11, 2015 (2015-07-11) at 9:30am through July 12 (2015-07-12) at 6pm" - which I think is deficient in that it doesn't indicate which of the venues it applies to and doesn't specify a time zone (is that supposed to be GMT?).
# ben_thatmustbeme Those times are local for portland. I saw the brighton one starts at 10 am their time
# ben_thatmustbeme Has their times
# ben_thatmustbeme Ideally that's supposed to be the times for both Ib their respective local time
# ben_thatmustbeme But brighton is starting later by a half an hour
# ben_thatmustbeme Okay sleep for real now
# seekr g'night for real, then, ben_thatmustbeme |-) thanks for the info
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@PHP_Agent Indie Web Movement and IndieAuth http://dragplus.com/post/id/31051923 (twitter.com/_/status/619749231528689664)
# KevinMarks should we parse iframe src as u-* ?
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@RiccardoE Ha ancora senso avere un blog? Forse sì: Pingback, Webmentions e VRM http://www.dagoneye.it/blog/2015/07/06/ha-ancora-senso-avere-un-blog-forse-si-pingback-webmentions-e-vrm/ via @dagoneye (twitter.com/_/status/619761995324223488)
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# tantek KevinMarks - re: iframe and src, not sure, do you have a use-case? regardless, document it here where there’s the related question of e- and iframe srcdoc! http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#e-_parsing_iframe_srcdoc (make a new same level subhead for “u- parsing iframe src” )
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@tvnweb #IndieWebCamp Brighton starts in a few hours. Super excited! (twitter.com/_/status/619769504902574080)
# seekr I think we're all excited, Loqi!
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tommorris.org edited /area-tag (+138) "adding link to RDFa and HTML imagemap post by Karl Dubost" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (+107) "/* This Is A Movement */ fix 3 images, drop two offline sites" (view diff)
# tommorris.org edited /2014-review (+13) "/* Technologies */ adding Google Docs to marginalia" (view diff)
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@tinokremer #indieweb About Google+ and POSSE, @erinjo @benwerd @kevinmarks http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/google-needs-write-api-to-support-posse-and-fix-their (twitter.com/_/status/619774124399968256)
# tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (-2) "hide name/URL briefly to take a screenshot" (view diff)
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@bertweb79 Ha ancora senso avere un blog? Forse sì: Pingback, Webmentions e VRM http://www.dagoneye.it/blog/2015/07/06/ha-ancora-senso-avere-un-blog-forse-si-pingback-webmentions-e-vrm/ via @dagoneye (twitter.com/_/status/619774961591414784)
# KartikPrabhu tantek: might I suggest putting an author name/url on https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Summary_And_Looking_Forward ? reads like a personal statement
# KartikPrabhu true. but since the wiki might not be edited, it would be good practice to attribute any personal statement sounding things
# seekr weird effect or weird people, tantek? :)
# seekr ah
# KartikPrabhu tantek: I like the statement itself btw :)
# seekr that's why I know I'm gonna love you guys (and gals) so very very much, tantek!
# seekr i.e. "weird is good!" :)
# KartikPrabhu seekr: do you already have your own website? link?
# KartikPrabhu wiki+CSS is strange to say the least
# seekr KartikPrabhu: Well, I don't have a site that's relevant for IndieWebCamp purposes - closest thing is a now-defunct site (domain name expires in a couple weeks and I don't intend to renew it): http://welovemarketbasket.org/
# KartikPrabhu seekr: most of the work here is improving ones own site and online identity
# seekr KartikPrabhu: I did some software in Perl and PHP to produce what you see in the right-hand "Newswire" column. Now I'm mainly interested in finding alternatives to Facebook and Twitter for another site I'm working on. I'm hoping someone in this community will have some suggestions (I have found some via non-evilGoogle searches, but haven't had a chance to check 'em out yet).
# KartikPrabhu tantek++ I show up on the 2014-review attendee page finally :P
# seekr should off-site attendees do the RSVP thing - maybe to get listed?
# KartikPrabhu seekr: that is a good goal! Anyone wanting to "finding alternatives to Facebook and Twitter" would want to have their own website as an online identity
# Loqi [bridgy] Paul Schoonhoven commented 'Google regelt het iets anders. Met copy/paste in een nieuw bericht pakt G+ gelijk de eerste link die het tegenkomt en verder geeft ie de ee...' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
# seekr Good advice, KartikPrabhu++! I'll get to work on it soonish. Finding this community is truly inspirational!
# KartikPrabhu seekr: awesome!
# seekr tantek: Well, I have a bogus Facebook acct, which I use only for snooping purposes, and I very occasionally use Twitter to track some issue that interests me. Other than those exceptions, no.
# seekr I eschew Google also, though I've been known to use the translator occasionally, and I don't know how to avoid uToob (though I can use a non-web client to avoid tracking).
# voldn echo 127.0.0.1 www.youtube.com >> /etc/hosts # how to avoid uToob
# tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2014-indieweb-movement.jpg]]""
# seekr thanks much, voldn! very much obliged
# seekr oh wait, it's a joke!
# seekr yeah - well, that's one way, but kinda overkill, methinks, voldn
# seekr negative, tantek - I try to keep a very low profile
# seekr I want to avoid all the corporate behemoths, if possible
# seekr I might well do, tantek - I could easily install blog software - maybe WordPress and do my own blog.
# seekr that too, maybe
# tantek seekr - exactly, WordPress, or Known (see http://withknown.com/ ) which is newer and has a lot of indieweb features built into it already
# seekr ah - yeah - second time I've heard about known today - gotta check it out!
# seekr I know that WP is subject to various forms of insidious attack.
# seekr In fact, I got direct experience of that fact via the site I mentioned a short while ago - lots of spam activity, which is a bit different, but still quite annoying and time-consuming to deal with
# tantek anyway, consider getting a domain per /Getting_Started and setting up /Known on it
# seekr Maybe known isn't yet well enough known to make it a worthwhile target (yet). (?)
# seekr but with an active developer community, I reckon that ways can and will be found to deal with such things if and when they occur
# voldn what the hells is Indie about the ICANN/DNS behemoth? why are you encouraging domain purchasing?
# seekr what's the alternative, voldn, something like no-ip?
# tantek voldn - yup, already documented and why: http://indiewebcamp.com/DNS#Hierarchical_Vulnerability
# KevinMarks_ Hm, srcdoc for e- is interesting. Would e- on an iframe with srcset imply fetching the src?
# seekr Does anyone here have preferred alternatives to Facebook and/or Twitter?
# KevinMarks_ s/srcset/src/
# KevinMarks_ But we also POSSE to fb/tw etc
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# seekr link, KevinMarks?
# KevinMarks_ What is bridgy
# Loqi Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed as a service https://indiewebcamp.com/bridgy
# KevinMarks_ What is posse
# Loqi POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
# KartikPrabhu seekr: here you go https://kartikprabhu.com/notes lots of stuff that may or may not be syndicated anywhere but exists on my own site
# seekr ah - guess I need to do some reading and study, and "get with the programme!" :)
# seekr thanks much, KartikPrabhu!
# KevinMarks_ The use cases I have, Tantek, are hovercard as iframe and post comments as iframe
# KartikPrabhu or as a blog post ;)
# KartikPrabhu needs to really get on with the "navigation links direction post"
# KevinMarks_ I am wondering if there is a different parsing directive that means "fetch the src of this iframe and parse it as if it was here in the html"
# KartikPrabhu IWC is upon us
# KartikPrabhu KevinMarks_ not in mf2 parsing algo
# KevinMarks_ No, not yet.
# KartikPrabhu i don't think there should be. If anything we should define use-cases where the consumer of some mf2 page can decide that given a parsed mf2
# KevinMarks_ I'm trying to work out the "comments on a static site" case
# KevinMarks_ And iframed comments seem better than js-injected ones
# KartikPrabhu tantek yes but there needs to be a well-defined algorithm to decide if comments are in the page or at a separate URL
# KartikPrabhu fwiwi. I was musing having a "hijax" link to comments as well
# KartikPrabhu what is h-card?
# Loqi hCard is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up people, organizations, and venues on web sites https://indiewebcamp.com/h-card
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@alicenwondrlnd Heading off to #IndieWebCamp - hoping to learn lots of cool stuff! (twitter.com/_/status/619785052835184640)
# KartikPrabhu tantek: no the use-case is if there only is a link to some comments list page on the actual article
# KevinMarks_ Hm, could a marginalia comment be an iframe?
# KevinMarks_ My specific use case is that I have comments on my static pages that are injected js-injected
# KartikPrabhu tantek: a lot of sites use JS to load comments. A good way to doing that is to have a separate comments page for any given article and then use JS to include comments when some one clicks on "Show comments"
# KevinMarks_ Which means they can't be part of a salmention
# @tvnweb Getting ready for #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619785588707860481/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619785588707860481)
# KartikPrabhu progressive disclosure or something
# tantek goes back to working on /2014-review until KevinMarks adds his suggestion to the microformats wiki as noted already.
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@andybudd RT @tvnweb: Getting ready for #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619785588707860481/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619785725198925824)
# @andybudd RT @alicenwondrlnd: Heading off to #IndieWebCamp - hoping to learn lots of cool stuff! (twitter.com/_/status/619785735969865728)
# KevinMarks_ But an iframe let's me transclude comments
# KartikPrabhu it is similar to having a partial h-card on homepage but a separate page with full h-card
# KartikPrabhu like I do one my site
# KevinMarks_ I think iframe fetching is more robust than js parsing
# KartikPrabhu tantek: true. I was worrying because I was considering implementing that but did not (yet).
# KartikPrabhu tantek: yes agreed. If I really want to I should just go ahead and implement it. but i can't decide if I want to :P
# tantek KartikPrabhu: you can braindump your thoughts about it, and why you’re unsure, in a new section like: https://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#Brainstorming
# KartikPrabhu tantek: don't give me more things to do :P
# KartikPrabhu I am musing in my head KevinMarks_ prompted this IRC braindump. I blame him ;)
# KevinMarks http://www.unmung.com/?html=%3Cdiv+id%3D%22preview%22%3E%0D%0A%3Cp%3E%3Ca+class%3D%22h-card+p-category%22+href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fchristophermarks.me%22%3E%3Ciframe+class%3D%22u-hovercard%22+height%3D%22120%22+width%3D%22240%22+src%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unmung.com%2Fhovercard%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fchristophermarks.me%22%3EChristopher+Marks%3C%2Fiframe%3E%3C%2Fa%3E%3A++%3C%2Fp%3E%3Cblockquote%3E%3Cp%3EI+don%27t+use+twitte
# KartikPrabhu holy URLs Batman!
# KartikPrabhu tantek: of course I see why you'd ask for documentation :)
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# KartikPrabhu nods
# KartikPrabhu also hopes he makes a decision and blog about it
# Loqi [bridgy] Tino Kremer commented 'I know how Google+ operates. I'm expressing my opinion about it. In fact +Jeff Jarvis”‹ has asked for proper link support many times as well....' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
# KartikPrabhu I rarely blog about things I haven't decided yet, so this "navigation thing" is priority post
# KartikPrabhu possibly but I traditionally use my brains for that ;)
# KevinMarks I was on my phone, making wiki edits hard
# KartikPrabhu but that is no good for others to contribute
# KartikPrabhu is bad at the interwebz
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# KartikPrabhu Good "it is awfully late here" LukasRos
# seekr good mornin', LukasRos
# KevinMarks the point of that link is that currently a u-* on an iframe reads the fallback text instead of the src
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@alpower @glennjones @indiewebcamp sad to be missing it (at a wedding!) - have fun all #IndieWebCamp (twitter.com/_/status/619788327978405889)
# KevinMarks will do
# seekr waves at keroberos, who he thanks again for turning him on to IndieWebCamp!
# keroberos heyhey
# seekr should start in ~15 mins (?) - any info on video streams yet?
# KevinMarks hm, embedding an iframe from unmung in unmung is apparently a CORS violation
# KevinMarks or a sign that I need a new scratch workspace
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# @tvnweb Breakfast at #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619790825149595648/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619790825149595648)
# KartikPrabhu is very tempted to complete the "navigation UI" post in time for IWC Portland but is also tempted to sleep
# KartikPrabhu tantek: fwiw I have decided to not have a separate comments page for article since I would complicate marginalia.js a whole lot more
# KartikPrabhu particularly if I use a "hijax" version on the comments page on the actual post then readers won't be able to see marginalia unless they click on "see comments" link
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@cathcoste RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twitter.com/_/status/619791853098041345)
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@L_Macnaughtan RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twitter.com/_/status/619792956606820353)
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# KartikPrabhu boop! I'm here
# KartikPrabhu bad internets
# KartikPrabhu yes, I should. in fact I was contemplating a separate comments page for exactly those reasons
# KartikPrabhu rhiaro: If it isn't too much trouble, could you wave "fanboyishly" for me at adactio, since his site is the one that brought me here :D
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@PhilippeLoizon RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twitter.com/_/status/619794341708591104)
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# KevinMarks I have a portait format adactio
# KevinMarks who is talking in german?
# KevinMarks LukasRos? is that you?
# KevinMarks no problem, just wanted to be sure you realised you were overheard
# KevinMarks I have a microphone with it's own mute button. much safer
# KevinMarks oops, brighton vanished
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@tommorris #indiewebcamp https://tommorris.org/ year in review https://tommorris.org/posts/9344 (twitter.com/_/status/619796382187044864)
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rhiaro ping seeker: streaming has begun http://beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton
# Loqi rhiaro meant to say: ping seekr: streaming has begun http://beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton
# @kevinmarks RT @tommorris: #indiewebcamp https://tommorris.org/ year in review https://tommorris.org/posts/9344 (twitter.com/_/status/619796661565403137)
# KevinMarks not seeing it rhiaro
# @tvnweb . @adactio kicking off #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619796917590036480/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619796917590036480)
# KevinMarks no
# KevinMarks I'll reload
# KevinMarks only seeing myself
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@Vecchi_Paolo @ellenbroad It's quite normal but maybe there is also a lot of people going to the Indie Web Camp today https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/619797394884968448)
# KevinMarks yes
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: my website is http://adactio.com - it's 10 year old crappy PHP I'm not proud of, but it works (twitter.com/_/status/619797764822683648)
# seekr thanks, rhiaro & Loqi - was in the kitchen rustlin' up a bit o' brekkie :) - will attempt to tune in
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I own my own links. I used to use delicious, but it died, then I used magnolia… now I use my own site (twitter.com/_/status/619797915847028736)
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@Lottejackson #IndieWebCamp Brighton has started! https://twitter.com/Lottejackson/status/619797970914013184/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619797970914013184)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: at the last indiewebcamp in Dusseldorf, which was a lot of fun, I added sending webmentions to sites I link to (twitter.com/_/status/619798103131049985)
# KevinMarks I may fall asleep though
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: when I post a photo I send a copy to twitter - I highly recommend it - I'm no longer a slave to twitter (twitter.com/_/status/619798338586714112)
# seekr thanks, rhiaro - talky still seems to be unworking for me (Linux & Firefox) - may have to try Windoze under vbox
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: ideally I want to do with instagram what I do with twitter, but there is no posting api (twitter.com/_/status/619798453309284352)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: instead I use http://ownyourgram.com to get the photo back from instagram to my site with micropub (twitter.com/_/status/619798559060267009)
# seekr eschews chrome, along with as much of the rest of the googleverse as possible
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: what I want to do is POSSE - Post Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere (twitter.com/_/status/619798688160985088)
# seekr ah - I could try chromium, rhiaro
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: but with instagram I have to do PESOS - Post Elsewhere Share Own Site - I'm not proud of these acronyms (twitter.com/_/status/619798868826394624)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: It feels very good to be hosting my own photos - i have 10 years of flickr ones I should import (twitter.com/_/status/619799013156626432)
# KevinMarks who's next?
# 
ShaneHudson_ Hey all, just joined talky :)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @petermolnar: I used to have my own CMS, and I could run wordpress but that gets hacked a lot (twitter.com/_/status/619799488178298880)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @petermolnar: so I have my own site with posts based on markdown https://petermolnar.eu (twitter.com/_/status/619799681934229504)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @petermolnar: wordpress has a lot of plugins that help with the indieweb that do webmentions and other indieweb apis (twitter.com/_/status/619799850184523776)
# tantek.com edited /2014-review (+61) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ tommorris's year in review" (view diff)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @petermolnar: I wrote a little plugin called keyring reactions importer that brings in facebook, twitter etc without using brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/619800002777497600)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @petermolnar: brid.gy is brilliant if you want to use it; I'm fed up with social networks so now I only post on my own site (twitter.com/_/status/619800127453184000)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: let me show brid.gy in action what happens when someone replies on twitter to one of my posts that I have shared there (twitter.com/_/status/619800311935447040)
# @tommorris #indiewebcamp Brighton demo notes https://tommorris.org/posts/9345 (twitter.com/_/status/619800341664534529)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: brid.gy sends a notification via webmention when you receive comments (twitter.com/_/status/619800569209864192)
# 
petermolnar (macs... glowing apples everywhere...)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: Brid.gy is open source so you could run your own instance of it, but it runs really really well (twitter.com/_/status/619800718438998016)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: you can also use brid.gy to publish to silos; I use it for the incoming (twitter.com/_/status/619800811820986368)
# KevinMarks what's rosa's twitter again
# ShaneHudson_ @Rosaemerald
# @tinokremer RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @petermolnar: wordpress has a lot of plugins that help with the indieweb that do webmentions and other indieweb a… (twitter.com/_/status/619801127849168897)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @Rosaemerald: I made my own site last year at indiewebcamp, using a template (twitter.com/_/status/619801151664488448)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @Rosaemerald: I made my site by copying a lot of html in one giant page; now I want to make separate posts so you can link (twitter.com/_/status/619801318702600192)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: one thing is to add the h-entry microformat to your blog posts so it can make sense to other people you mention (twitter.com/_/status/619801455109742592)
# KevinMarks should add url hcard parsing to noterlive as well as twitter handle fetching
# KevinMarks who's next?
# @tinokremer @kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twitter.com/_/status/619801741991677952)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @iamjohnellison: I have my own site at http://john-ellison.com based on ghost (twitter.com/_/status/619802217630052352)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: there is a service at webmention.io that will handle webmentions for you and some js to embed in your site (twitter.com/_/status/619802352216899585)
# KevinMarks who's hammering?
# petermolnar unknown builder on the roof
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @iamjohnellison: if i have Ghost self-hosted I can use webmentions? (twitter.com/_/status/619802509524213760)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: you can use 3rd parties like webmention.io and http://webmention.herokuapp.com to embed mentions by javascript (twitter.com/_/status/619802650280861696)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I'm Amy - been involved in indieweb for about a year - my site is http://rhiaro.co.uk (twitter.com/_/status/619802831680348160)
# 
@petermolnar @kevinmarks @iamjohnellison not directly with Ghost, you'll need something, like webmention.io that accepts webmentions. (twitter.com/_/status/619802851280351232)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: it's some PHP I wrote - I have a micropub endpoint so I can post using http://quill.p3k.io (twitter.com/_/status/619803037478031360)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I post checkins, notes, longer articles, bookmarks, RSVPs and likes (twitter.com/_/status/619803155656798208)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I do a like using quill, and brid.gy sends it to twitter -i don't go near twitter myself (twitter.com/_/status/619803300167335936)
# petermolnar what is quill?
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I don't have my own webmention endpoint at the moment so I use webmention.io for it (twitter.com/_/status/619803397869424640)
# Loqi Quill is a simple app for posting text notes to your website using micropub https://indiewebcamp.com/Quill
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: this is all the webmentions for my homepage on webmention.io (twitter.com/_/status/619803764896063488)
# KevinMarks what was the question?
# Loqi question is a post type for soliciting answer replies, which are then typically up/down voted by others and then displayed underneath the question post ordered by highest positive vote count rather than time ordered https://indiewebcamp.com/question
# petermolnar KevinMarks: pagination on webmention.io to prevent MASSIVE json blobs
# ShaneHudson_ Oh dear, I have an issue with indie auth... changed twitter to use a folder instead of root for website and cloudflare now does email protection lol
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: what quill does is let you authenticate using indieauth with your own website, using the principle of being lazy (twitter.com/_/status/619804093687709696)
# @tinokremer #indieweb I'm new to #IndieWeb (2 weeks), my site (Known) is http://stream.tinokremer.nl/ and I love it. @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/619804109307187200)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: so I put in my URL, it looks for rel-me links to a sites with OAuth and logs me in there (twitter.com/_/status/619804211270844416)
# @tinokremer RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: what quill does is let you authenticate using indieauth with your own website, using the principle of b… (twitter.com/_/status/619804305181253632)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: If someone wants to make a beautiful posting interface, you can make it work for any site (twitter.com/_/status/619804345991868416)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: go to https://quill.p3k.io/editor for a nicer interface like medium (twitter.com/_/status/619804411896983553)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: with something like quill you can make it available for anyone to use to post to their site via micropub (twitter.com/_/status/619804574547902464)
# 
@calum_ryan Pondering over possible upgrades to my site this weekend #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/619804719888908288)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: the idea is that instead of creating interfaces from scratch, you can share the interface to anyone (twitter.com/_/status/619804724359995392)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: you could even make a native app that uses the micropub api to post to our sites (twitter.com/_/status/619804821642715136)
# petermolnar rhiaro why y no https? :)
# KevinMarks is this petere again?
# KevinMarks who dis?
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @lewisnyman: I switched my site http:/// from Drupal to Jekyl which felt greta as I was writing html again (twitter.com/_/status/619805345431617536)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @lewisnyman: as I started wanting to do more- post images and so on, I found this more difficult (twitter.com/_/status/619805451136446464)
# petermolnar rhiaro : ssl.com; free for 3 month periods ( you can re-apply when it expires ); fairly easy to set up
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# petermolnar unlike startssl, which is horrible
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @lewisnyman: as I was writing flat files on my local machine, I couldn't use it from my phone (twitter.com/_/status/619805574750961664)
# @tvnweb . @lewisnyman Shows off his website at #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619805744603496448/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619805744603496448)
# petermolnar yep
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: there is something called Jekmentions for jekyll webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/619805804917604352)
# petermolnar I'll add some best practices as well, even though I hate that phrase
# KevinMarks what is jekmentions
# Loqi Jekmentions is a service that works as webmention endpoint and saves the received webmentions in a GitHub repository https://indiewebcamp.com/Jekmentions
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: anyone using jekyll? (many hands go up) (twitter.com/_/status/619806025273749505)
# petermolnar do we have a server provider recommendations wiki page?
# petermolnar for self hosted things
# petermolnar by the way, rhiaro if you're not in a hurry, you may want to wait for https://letsencrypt.org/
# Loqi Web hosting is perhaps the primary regular cost in maintaining an Indie Web Site (more expensive than most domain name registrations/renewals) https://indiewebcamp.com/webhosting
# petermolnar thanks tantek
# @kevinmarks #indieweb Giulia: My site is at http://giugee.com/blog but it is more of a set of static pages that I post on my own server and github (twitter.com/_/status/619806836116561920)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb Giulia: I connect to github with webhooks so there is always a mirror available (twitter.com/_/status/619806946082877440)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I'd like to have static versions of my site somewhere safe in case my database goes down (twitter.com/_/status/619807089989451776)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I like having github to show me all the changes I have down (twitter.com/_/status/619807241877782528)
# KevinMarks markdown--
# petermolnar ?
# ShaneHudson_ I write in markdown and export as html (in iA Writer Pro)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I'm not sure I would store markdown (twitter.com/_/status/619807380499492864)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I'm tom at https://tommorris.org/ - the site is built in rails with a postgres backend; it's mostly posts (twitter.com/_/status/619807827100573696)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I have my own edit ui with posts and tags to add (twitter.com/_/status/619807921669558272)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twitter.com/_/status/619808074707128320)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I use OpenStreetMap for locations and Mozilla Persona to sign in (twitter.com/_/status/619808233511854080)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: one thing I did a while back is using twilio to send an xml blob when I post a text message to blog (twitter.com/_/status/619808649213542400)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I'm in the process of switching over to django from rails for my site (twitter.com/_/status/619808860094754816)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: also you get practical well-built libraries rather than hacked together crap (twitter.com/_/status/619808975672999937)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I hope to open source my new version and let the hacky rails nastiness die (twitter.com/_/status/619809066584510464)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I syndicate to twitter, and then use twitter to go to facebook (twitter.com/_/status/619809235849842688)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I'm getting webmentions back, but not displaying everything (twitter.com/_/status/619809304019927040)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: vim is a nicer writing environment than web browsers as browsers have only had 20 years to write one (twitter.com/_/status/619809699618258944)
# KevinMarks getting sleepy
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# seekr join #perl
# seekr oops
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "perl" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=perl&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436609167853
# Loqi language may refer to human (AKA natural) languages or computer (often programming) languages https://indiewebcamp.com/languages
# KevinMarks perl is short for Particularly Esoteric Regex Language and consists largely of punctuation.
# 
loqi.me created /perl (+118) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436609167853 and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
# KevinMarks url?
# 
@jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I hope to open source my new version and let the hacky rails nastiness die (twitter.com/_/status/619810441318014976)
# KevinMarks bad cert?
# petermolnar KevinMarks the company I work for has perl as main language for the business, and yes, I do cry sometimes when no one is looking
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I'm in the process of switching over to django from rails for my site (twitter.com/_/status/619810539330514944)
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: one thing I did a while back is using twilio to send an xml blob when I post a text message to blog (twitter.com/_/status/619810637821009920)
# seekr Perl is good.
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# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I use OpenStreetMap for locations and Mozilla Persona to sign in (twitter.com/_/status/619810710265176064)
# KevinMarks (can't quite hear him)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb Raphael: I'm Raphael and my site is https://opensourcespecialist.co.uk/ (twitter.com/_/status/619810951169241088)
# seekr I'm still trying to find a way to connect. :-\
# 
@JaneAllie_9294 RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twitter.com/_/status/619811081377214464)
# 
@WillaCassandra_ RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twitter.com/_/status/619811082589335552)
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @lewisnyman: as I started wanting to do more- post images and so on, I found this more difficult (twitter.com/_/status/619811256699121664)
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb Giulia: I connect to github with webhooks so there is always a mirror available (twitter.com/_/status/619811307521474560)
# Loqi HTTPS is an abbreviation for Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure, a protocol for secure communication, supported by web servers (like Apache & nginx) and browsers https://indiewebcamp.com/HTTPS
# petermolnar my fail2ban kicked in on ssh to my domain from the 68 Middle Street ip O.o
# petermolnar either I'm doing something wrong or someone is sniffing around
# ben_thatmustbeme okay, its not just me not being able to understand talky
# seekr good morning, ben_thatmustbeme!
# ben_thatmustbeme morning
# KevinMarks lots of audience conversation makes it hard
# @kevinmarks #indieweb Raphael: I'm running my own server and my site is based on Jekyll (twitter.com/_/status/619812322421379072)
# seekr guess I don't feel so bad not being able to connect (yet, still trying) knowing that the audio is inaudible - hope they can work something out - maybe get a direct connection to the speaker's mic?
# ben_thatmustbeme kevin marks, i just get crazy echo
# KevinMarks who's next
# KevinMarks echo might just be you- headphones?
# seekr ah, rhiaro
# KevinMarks also Charle Stross uses moveable type
# ben_thatmustbeme was really bad on FF, its smooth on chrome
# ben_thatmustbeme i can hear now
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I have been using moveable type but switched to jekyll hosted on my own site http://paulrobertlloyd.com (twitter.com/_/status/619812925759488000)
# petermolnar ( the video issues reminded me of this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=981444#p981444 )
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twitter.com/_/status/619813220732280837)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I'm happier using other people's things and joining them together than coding it all (twitter.com/_/status/619813629215510528)
# KevinMarks (really feeling sleepy now - are there many left?)
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# 
@javascriptd RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: you can use 3rd parties like webmention.io and http://webmention.herokuapp.com to embed mentions by javascript (twitter.com/_/status/619814195706474497)
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# @kevinmarks #indieweb @hotzeplotz: my interest in indieweb comes from a long time ago (twitter.com/_/status/619814344226926592)
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twitter.com/_/status/619814409964232704)
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twitter.com/_/status/619814641322037248)
# petermolnar url was http://mey.vn/ for @hotzeplotz
# @kevinmarks #indieweb @hotzeplotz: I have been waiting for something like the indieweb to happen (twitter.com/_/status/619814787271233540)
# @tvnweb Full room for #IndieWebCamp Brighton. ~40 people. https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619815031992111104/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619815031992111104)
# ben_thatmustbeme 40 people, nice
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: I have been waiting for something like the indieweb to happen (twitter.com/_/status/619815138019909632)
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# ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro: have you got some IWC stickrs to give out?
# petermolnar question: should a write how to update a (freely hosted) dns entry for _any_ domain on digitalocean with an ip? what way hosting at home could actually be easy with any domain; in theory of course
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cozycloud" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=cozycloud&summary=prompted+by+rhiaro+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436610578419
# KevinMarks audio just went all dalek
# Loqi [bridgy] Gert-Jan Mes +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
# KevinMarks I'm going to sleep now
# @kevinmarks my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619817414415388672)
# tantek.com edited /videos_about_the_indieweb (-6) "/* 2014 */ fix adactio link to point just to his video" (view diff)
# @kevinmarks RT @tinokremer: #indieweb I'm new to #IndieWeb (2 weeks), my site (Known) is http://stream.tinokremer.nl/ and I love it. @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/619817574180589568)
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# ShaneHudson_ Ah very nice. That's what I'm wanting to do, use service workers so that there is more chance I will actually be able to POSSE
# @jrobertson RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619818386894286848)
# ShaneHudson_ Has anyone else done anything with service workers yet?
# ben_thatmustbeme peoplenamedbenjamin++ :P
# ShaneHudson_ I think offline would be a good thing to discuss
# ben_thatmustbeme needs to check if offline checkins are working in mobilepub
# ben_thatmustbeme ShaneHudson_: i doubt i'll be around but tell them about mobilepub, it needs a lot of development, but it works in concept
# ShaneHudson_ what is mobilepub
# Loqi MobilePub is a mobile app for posting text, links, photos, videos, and audio files to your website using micropub https://indiewebcamp.com/MobilePub
# ShaneHudson_ Oh nice, that sounds useful
# ben_thatmustbeme i've done offline posting with it
# ben_thatmustbeme its broken for offline media posts
# ben_thatmustbeme "more excited about writing the code than writing the words" I completely understand that
# 
@mal_disposto RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619820469617864704)
# ShaneHudson_ That's a complicated drinking game! :D
# ben_thatmustbeme really long looking URL
# petermolnar.eu edited /web_hosting (+1758) "Personal Clouds: using digital ocean as dns provider for home-hosted setups" (view diff)
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# Loqi DigitalOcean is a web hosting provider targeted towards developers and offers low cost cloud servers in data centers across the world https://indiewebcamp.com/digital_ocean
# petermolnar ...also providing free dns hosting, not advertised too much
# ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro: when does that bingo app get made?
# petermolnar ( every single time I see POSSE I always hear H.P. Baxxter's voice from Scooter screaming 'Welcome POSSE' from their Back in the U.K. song )
# 
@LilyLionheart Very excited about the next two days @ #indiewebcamp in the fantastic @clearleft house. Thanks for organizing @adactio & @Lottejackson! (twitter.com/_/status/619822373987045376)
# tantek.com edited /2014-review (+739) "/* Talks */ pick a few to highlight representative for the year" (view diff)
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# seekr sprry, rhiaro - I missed your question 1.5 hours ago, messing with various things - you wrote: "Jul 11 05:22:02 <rhiaro> seekr: what's not working specifically. Site not
# seekr loading, or just no video/audio?" My answer is that Firefoxputs up a little widgety thing and says my mic is active, but does nothing else - remember, I have a broken camera - Chromium does nothing at all - trying various forms of Windoze now
# seekr I'll continue to fiddle with it rhiaro
# ShaneHudson_ I'm working on getting micropub working. So close
# ben_thatmustbeme can we see the scheduling / grid
# ben_thatmustbeme just seeing the same site up on screen right nwo
# ben_thatmustbeme now*
# ShaneHudson_ Is Charlotte on here? If she is using Craft, a few of my plugins may help.
# @JaneAllie_9294 RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twitter.com/_/status/619826456307351552)
# @WillaCassandra_ RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twitter.com/_/status/619826457565634560)
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# tantek I think I’ve got nearly all the sections of https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review ready to be blogged except one
# tantek if anyone would like to help out by summarizing 2014 site deaths - could you use your help here: https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Site_Deaths_2014
# seekr what happened to this channel? it's been dead for some time, it seems - is Bright on on a lunch break or what?
# seekr *Brighton
# ben_thatmustbeme yes
# ben_thatmustbeme they are
# seekr ah
# seekr I still can't get talky to work :(
# ben_thatmustbeme weird
# ben_thatmustbeme something disabled maybe
# ben_thatmustbeme or proxy issues
# ben_thatmustbeme or firewall
# seekr I'm running an oldish version of Linux Mint (v 14, Nadia), but my Firefox is relatively current
# ShaneHudson_ Talky is working for me but video feed is off
# seekr There's no firewall that I know of - just put in a new router - should check, though
# ben_thatmustbeme ShaneHudson_: therem something to look at
# seekr do certain ports have to be open and/or forwarded?
# ShaneHudson_ ben_thatmustbemeHaha aww :)
# seekr hmmm
# ben_thatmustbeme ShaneHudson_: and her sister
# @andybudd RT @Lottejackson: #IndieWebCamp Brighton has started! https://twitter.com/Lottejackson/status/619797970914013184/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619834194781437952)
# ShaneHudson_ Ugh the one thing I don't like about Craft is the plugin routing. Takes me forever to work out
# ben_thatmustbeme ShaneHudson_: there is Charlotte's twitter handle if you wanted to tweet to her about the plugins you mentioned
# ShaneHudson_ Ah yeah cheers
# 
@ShaneHudson @Lottejackson I have a few very unstable Craft plugins for POSSE, webmention and micropub if you're interested? (twitter.com/_/status/619835107185135616)
# Loqi [bridgy] Bas van der Veeken +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
# ben_thatmustbeme seekr what browser?
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# seekr Firefox, ben_thatmustbeme
# seekr I tried Chromium also.
# ben_thatmustbeme what happens?
# seekr nothing happens with Chromium - just have a blank browser window
# ben_thatmustbeme and in FF?
# seekr in FF, a little widgety thing launches, asks for permission to use the mic, which I give it - and then there no further activity
# ben_thatmustbeme weird. so it sounds like its not getting mic/vid control
# ben_thatmustbeme if i try to open talky in two dif browsers thats what i get
# seekr possibly
# ben_thatmustbeme becasue the second one can never get access to the cam/audio
# seekr ah - well, I have skype running - wonder if it's interfering
# ben_thatmustbeme possibly
# seekr I'll shut it down to see if it makes a difference.
# seekr The Windoze route failed - nearly maxes out the cpu
# seekr (under vbox)
# ben_thatmustbeme ahhh this is under vbox
# seekr well, only the windoze attempt was
# ben_thatmustbeme linux?
# seekr that's after both ff & chromium failed under Linux itself
# ben_thatmustbeme ahh
# ben_thatmustbeme hmmmm
# seekr gonna shut down vbox & skype and try again
# ben_thatmustbeme but the cam / audio was working in skype
# ben_thatmustbeme weird
# ben_thatmustbeme make sure its trying to get access to the correct camera?
# seekr there's only one - built in (lappie), which got broken when I spilled tea on the kb :)
# seekr also fried the circuitry for the kb itself and he monitor - I use it with external devices
# 
@IndieWebCampUK RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619838611991740416)
# seekr thanks, KevinMarks!
# seekr when do sessions resume?
# ben_thatmustbeme probably quite soon
# seekr trying talky in ff - vbox & skype now gone
# seekr nothing happening - just the little widgety thing is present
# seekr maybe it's trying to open the camera and fails - no error msgs, tho
# ben_thatmustbeme nothing in dmesg?
# seekr will check...
# seekr ah - my experience with England is that the sun generally hides behind clouds - spent a summer there - very bleak most of the time
# ShaneHudson_ It is a really nice day, I went and sat in the garden for a little while :) sooo bright
# seekr ah - good
# seekr nice!
# ben_thatmustbeme yeah, its just failing to get the cam i'm sure
# ShaneHudson_ Should probably grab some food though, brb while I make a bacon sarny :)
# seekr ben_thatmustbeme: nothing in dmesg for two whole days!
# 
@mshook RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619840595146706944)
# seekr ben_thatmustbeme: are you using Firefox with talky?
# ben_thatmustbeme i had it working, closed it for chrome as FF was choppy for me
# seekr just wondering whether the widget-thing should have more than the FF logo and mic icon
# seekr maybe it also generally has a camera icon?
# seekr if so, it might indicate that it's non-forgiving of a broken camera
# seekr Is there any audio or audio/video recording going on in Brighton for later archiving?
# ben_thatmustbeme i think so
# ben_thatmustbeme not sure, i don't think so
# seekr you think there should be a camera icon as part of the widget?
# ben_thatmustbeme i get the ff logo, cam, and mic (orange bg on the latter two)
# ben_thatmustbeme and an orange cam in the address bar
# seekr ah - that's gotta be it, then!
# seekr I see only the FF logo and a while mic on an orange background
# seekr It's prolly hanging trying to open the camera.
# ben_thatmustbeme i would guess so
# @JaneAllie_9294 RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twitter.com/_/status/619841865291071488)
# @WillaCassandra_ RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twitter.com/_/status/619841866914230272)
# seekr too bad it's not configurable to ignore a missing or broken camera
# seekr Is there an essay somewhere that explains why silos as primary repositories are a bad thing? I'm assuming it's cos someone else owns the data, but perhaps my assumption is incorrect.
# seekr ah
# seekr thanks, rhiaro
# ShaneHudson_ rhiaro: There will be docs for each session though right?
# seekr have the snowden revelations caused more people to become interested in such things, do you think? It's sounding to me as if people are willing to feel stuff from their sites to silos, but maybe I'm wrong. If I'm not, doesn't it mean that privacy and/or anonymity are lost anyway? Sorry to be such a dumb newbie - just feelin' my way 'round here. :)
# seekr *to feed stuff
# seekr such have I discovered :)
# ShaneHudson_ For me it was a nice way to give new life to my site
# seekr wouldn't one want to avoid silos altogether if one is security conscious - maybe doing countercultural political stuff and wanting to maintain anonymity?
# seekr so the syndication bit is optional, I s'pose
# ShaneHudson_ On Quill, it is using the wrong micropub endpoint despite it being in the HEAD of my site? Any ideas?
# ShaneHudson_ *the right one being in the HEAD
# ben_thatmustbeme huh?
# ben_thatmustbeme what URL are you logging in with?
# ShaneHudson_ shanehudson.net
# ShaneHudson_ Ah there we go
# ShaneHudson_ just had to relogin
# ben_thatmustbeme oh okay
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# ShaneHudson_ \o/
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# ShaneHudson_ what is indieweb.txt
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb.txt" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=indieweb.txt&summary=prompted+by+ShaneHudson_+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436620327687
# @tvnweb Talking through the 'checklist' of #IndieWeb technologies http://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619858175374790656/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619858175374790656)
# @tvnweb Another group is talking about PESOS (Publish Elsewhere Syndicate on you Own Site) techniques #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619858662585159680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619858662585159680)
# 
@rhiaro @tvnweb Be cool if you could encourage people to take notes - links to etherpads on schedule https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule :) (twitter.com/_/status/619859901536436224)
# @IndieWebCampUK Note taking for sessions in etherpads linked on the schedule: http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule (twitter.com/_/status/619860334535380994)
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# @rhiaro RT @IndieWebCampUK: Note taking for sessions in etherpads linked on the schedule: http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule (twitter.com/_/status/619862848387223552)
# @alicenwondrlnd How 'indie' are you? In session on IndieMark - defining a set of metrics for measuring the #indieweb-ness of a site http://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark (twitter.com/_/status/619863112020267008)
# @andybudd @alicenwondrlnd sounds like you've joined a cult / @adactio #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619863754071756800)
# ShaneHudson_ Not perfect but micropub just published a note for me
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# ben_thatmustbeme ShaneHudson++ nice!
# ShaneHudson_ I will also push the code to github
# ben_thatmustbeme Yay. What is your site in?
# ShaneHudson_ Craft
# ben_thatmustbeme Oh yeah you said that
# 
shanehudson.net edited /Micropub (+280) "Added link to source code for Micropub Craft plugin" (view diff)
# Loqi [bridgy] jamal lashley +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
# ShaneHudson_ Won't add geolocation support yet to plugin since that would require my specific setup... but Quill is now adding geo nicely to my posts :)
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# ShaneHudson_ Who controls the indie auth site? Think to improve indieweb experience on mobile, that should be responsive
# ShaneHudson_ Ah ok thought it might have been :) I actually mean the /auth page but yes
# @tinokremer I just moved my Tumblr posts to my own @withknown site, feels good! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619877143472816128)
# ShaneHudson_ Are there any android devs here?
# @tinokremer I just moved my Tumblr posts to my own @withknown site and deleted my Tumblr account, feels good! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619877378316087297)
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# ShaneHudson_ Nor am I :)
# ShaneHudson_ I am wondering how easy it is to create an app that will appear in the share menu on twitter. So that I can click "Reply on own site" and it will either handle micropub locally or hook into Quill or something on the web
# ShaneHudson_ So that I can use Twitter app as my reader like I already do but reply via POSSE. Currently it is so much easier to use the twitter app so I do
# ShaneHudson_ Oh of course, it can be sent in the URL... hmm that makes it quite nice.
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# ShaneHudson_ Will have a play :) If I can work out how to make an app haha Thanks :)
# 
tommorris following discussion at IWC Brighton, this now exists: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-experimental-properties
# ShaneHudson_ Ah nice :)
# ShaneHudson_ "For when we eventually build the open web dating service." I actually laughed out loud :D
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# 
kylewm ShaneHudson_: here's a possible solution for your android/twitter question https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android
# ShaneHudson_ kylewm: Oh yes, I think I've seen that before. Will give it another try thanks :)
# ShaneHudson_ Though might make an app anyway, just to learn how :)
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# ShaneHudson_ Ah that's why I don't use it... it is disgusting xD
# ShaneHudson_ I'm going to go for a little walk then will make a start on it :)
# Loqi [bridgy] Joschi Kuphal å‰ favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/glennjones/status/619783530554490881)
# Loqi [bridgy] Al Power replied '@glennjones @indiewebcamp sad to be missing it (at a wedding!) - have fun all #IndieWebCamp' to a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/alpower/status/619788327978405889)
# Loqi [bridgy] Frederic Marx favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/glennjones/status/619783530554490881)
# @calum_ryan #indiewebcamp live blog http://calumryan.com/blog/indiewebcamp1/ (bear with me catching up!) (twitter.com/_/status/619887023785148416)
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# 
@LukasRosenstock Just blogged: "Phone Numbers and the IndieWeb" - https://lukasrosenstock.net/post/60002190 (twitter.com/_/status/619890198244159488)
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# 
jgarber Hello, IndieWebCampers! Has anyone combined Micropub with Rails? Specifically, ActiveRecord? ActiveRecord expects data (params) to be structured in a particular way so my first guess is that an app would need something between a Micropub endpoint and ActiveRecord, but wanted to float the question out there in case anyone else has tackled this.
# bret not sure how complete this is https://github.com/homesteading/micropub-server-rails
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aaronparecki.com edited /2015/Guest_List (+334) "/* Participating */ add more tito registrations" (view diff)
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# snarfed tommorris: re pesos backfill, just fyi, check out https://github.com/snarfed/freedom
# snarfed ShaneHudson_: re indieweb replies etc on android, check out https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android
# 
@awoods RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/619902521889296384)
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# Loqi slack/shaunguice: or a <http://talky.io|talky.io>
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# gRegor-phone On our way. Will we need to be buzzed in again?
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# 
@benjaminparry Well that was one very exciting day of discussions and demos of #IndieWeb technologies! Let's see how much can be implemented tomorrow. (twitter.com/_/status/619908187966279680)
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# ShaneHudson_ Finally, Android Studio has done its update
# KevinMarks heh, I want the opposite of https://github.com/snarfed/open-in-app
# @kevinmarks @tcarmody @kissane links to the Facebook app take 8 seconds to load if you're on the web (twitter.com/_/status/606130862824898560)
# KevinMarks can someone at indiewebcamp PDX do the noterlive scribing?
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# seekr will the live stream from portland also use talky? seems I'm unable to connect to talky streams, due most likely to my non-functional camera, which seems to be needed for talky to work
# @kevinmarks RT @tinokremer: @kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twitter.com/_/status/619916899699142656)
# KevinMarks_ They may be overcome by vegan donuts
# seekr don
# seekr oops - don't they start at 10:30 pdt, which is under 20 mins from now?
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# seekr rhiaro: according to the schedule at http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule , they should be starting about now
# @tvnweb Post #IndieWebCamp drinks on the beach https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619920421224345600/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619920421224345600)
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# 
@pypi_updates django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/619921091390251008)
# 
@Bradamante just arrived @indiewebcamp, and already we're talking docs! :D #writethedocs (twitter.com/_/status/619921094749720577)
# seekr will there be any sort of non-talky stream available?
# 
@TapestryMaker Good turnout at #indiewebcamp in Portland -- @aaronpk's kicking things off (twitter.com/_/status/619922126577905664)
# seekr yeah!! would be wond'rous, bret! thanks muchly!!! :)
# seekr mornin', tantek
# KevinMarks_ . Morning Tantek
# 
@BillSeitz RT @tinokremer: @kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twitter.com/_/status/619922439196114944)
# KevinMarks_ Can someone there do noterlive.com scribing?
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# tantek aaronpk reviewed /principles
# seekr tantek: bret has offered to do a uToob stream
# tantek and gave a quick overview of /code-of-conduct as well
# tantek aaronpk is now showing / explaining the schedule for the next two days. /2015/Schedule
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# seekr still no sessions listed on schedule
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# seekr oh - sorry
# seekr bret's working on it he sez, rhiaro
# 
@JvCode RT @pypi_updates: django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/619923440263372800)
# seekr ah - great - thanks, bret!
# Loqi benwerd: snarfed left you a message on 7/10 at 4:02pm: feel better! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436569320504
# Loqi benwerd: KevinMarks left you a message on 7/10 at 5:28pm: I hope you feel better soon http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436574511234
# Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 7/10 at 5:35pm: rest-up and feel better. Sorry to miss you but take care of yourself and we’ll hack online! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436574949684
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wrong with audio" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=wrong+with+audio&summary=prompted+by+bret+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436636484757
# seekr bret - still setting up - will know in a moment
# tommorris Watching IWC in pub. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/81sawnIG/IMG_2389.JPG
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# KevinMarks_ Attending Brighton and watching g portland in the pub looks better than staying up until 4 watching Brighton then attending portland
# seekr bret: video is fine, but audio is very inaudible :(
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# seekr not really
# seekr can't understand what she's saying
# seekr ah - better now!
# 
aaronpk The other camera is http://beta.talky.io/indiewebcamp
# @benwerd If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619926060054941696)
# 
@dangillmor RT @benwerd: If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619926181370966016)
# seekr I'm able to connect to the YT stream from my own machine, but am getting an SSL certificate error on another machine - don't know how to get arround it - http:// auto-forwards to the https:// URL
# 
@theguice RT @benwerd: If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/619926678135898112)
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# seekr Secure Connection Failed
# seekr An error occurred during a connection to www.youtube.com. Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature)
# 
@artwisanggeni #python django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/619927283092992001)
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# tantek result of his post: https://jeena.net/photos/156
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@jgraham909 RT @jeena: #indiewebcamp live demo (https://jeena.net/photos/156) https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619928488900820993)
# tantek and possed to twitter: https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880
# tantek POSSE photo to Twitter shows an example of http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter#POSSE_note_with_photos_to_Twitter
# tantek.com edited /Twitter (+178) "/* POSSE note with photos to Twitter */ IndieWeb community members doing this: Jeena!" (view diff)
# @rhiaro Yo dawg I heard you like #indiewebcamp http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/07/yo-dawg-heard (twitter.com/_/status/619930448186183680)
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gRegorLove Hello from IWC Portland! o/
# Loqi gRegorLove: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 7/10 at 4:17pm: about changing permalinks I added some stuff I ran into here: https://indiewebcamp.com/permalink#Changing_Permalinks_to_posts http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436570232549
# KevinMarks tarot, bret
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# 
barnabywalters that was very loud applause
# Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 3 days ago: since you do things with music/audio on the indieweb, consider submitting a speaking proposal for SF Music Tech Summit 2015: https://sfmusictech.wufoo.com/forms/r1jkqagx100z417/ http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-10/line/1433960067012
# gRegorLove Re: Jon's demo: http://oonce-oonce.com/
# 
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# gRegorLove Best domain name here: yourmom.io demoing now
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# gRegorLove "this project is so easy your mom could use it"
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# gRegorLove aaronpk demonstrating feedback
# gRegorLove of the audio kind
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# JonPincus GWG we're talking about a session on Wordpress and Indieweb this afternoon (Pacifc Coast time), are there times that are better or worse for you?
# gRegorLove GWG: You'll want to connect with anomalilly this weekend. She's going to be working on her WordPress site and wants to streamline the setup process. I know you've talked about that before.
# gRegorLove I mentioned to her she should talk to you
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# @benwerd Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619938499429466112)
# Loqi [mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
# Loqi [mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
# Loqi [mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
# JonPincus ok we'll figure out the logistics here to get that session streamed
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# gRegorLove session scheduling time
# gRegorLove tantek is talking about the /SWAT0 challenge
# gRegorLove Now, GWG?
# gRegorLove "Can you hear me now?"
# bret fixed the demo post http://bret.io/2015/07/11/funny-gif-time/
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# 
@cackhanded Interesting day at @IndieWebCampUK. Much food for thought on how impossible it is to even get started without being a programmer. (twitter.com/_/status/619941947285864448)
# gRegorLove question about what the 'line' is for indieweb - ok to use AWS or GH pages, etc. aaron explained owning the domain is basically the line, the hosting is all plumbing and not of concern to the use reading your site.
# barnabywalters friendica?
# gRegorLove permalinks should exist as long as you own the domain
# @IndieWebCampUK @cackhanded be sure to check out @withknown, and the indieweb WordPress plugins! (twitter.com/_/status/619942457338368000)
# @cackhanded Tomorrow at @IndieWebCampUK I’ll be helping anyone I can and prototyping a little something. (twitter.com/_/status/619942588339064832)
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# KartikPrabhu reads the huge backlog
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# KartikPrabhu rhiaro: for SSL I use sslmate, paid, but they have a ruby script that you can run on your server to generate the keys and what not so you don't have to do the openssl complicated stuff
# KartikPrabhu what is sslmate?
# Loqi sslmate is a SSL certificate provider https://indiewebcamp.com/sslmate
# 
@jgarber @cackhanded @IndieWebCampUK More than a little jealous I can’t be there with you all! (twitter.com/_/status/619943285042364416)
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# JonPincus you're available for the next seven hours, right?
# JonPincus got it
# JonPincus we probably said all of those things :)
# JonPincus :)
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# JonPincus that was jeena
# JonPincus i believe so, talking about reader
# misuba I can’t see the video, can anyone list things out?
# reidab searches for schedule information
# reidab well yes, but that grid doesn't have anything filled it on it
# reidab excellent
# gRegorLove Photo will be posted and we'll copy it into the wiki
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# JonPincus it looks like the wordpress session will be at 3:00 pacific time
# JonPincus gwg, which update did you push?
# JonPincus cool
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# KevinMarks_ If I were there I'd suggest an indiecard session
# reidab heads downtown
# gRegorLove I'm adding sessions to the wiki now
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# JonPincus anybody interested in streaming the community session?
# JonPincus here's the etherpad: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/community
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@anomalily Kicking off the #communities session at #indiewebcamp today! (twitter.com/_/status/619953465494601728)
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# gRegorLove Please drop your etherpad links in the session pages
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# bret shaunguice https://beta.talky.io/iwc-community stream
# gRegorLove Nice minimalist theme ;)
# gRegorLove Indieweb Building Blocks session: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/intro
# gRegorLove Don't think they're broadcasting
# gRegorLove tantek: Can we broadcast #intro?
# parzzix benefits of flat files vs traditional databases?....GO!
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# GWG Or /indiewebcamp
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@Amy_Sharpton Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619956948369321985)
# gRegorLove Just realized we changed the domain for our etherpads this year from mozilla to indiewebcamp
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# reidab is downstairs at the door
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@t @aaronpk re: https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/07/11/1/indiewebcamp And here’s a reply to your post. Let’s see if it shows up on your post. (ttk.me t4c71) (twitter.com/_/status/619958525347893248)
# gregorlove.com edited /2015/Schedule (+16) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ Schedule corrections" (view diff)
# gregorlove.com created /2015/Podcasting (+43) "Created page with "http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/podcasting"" (view diff)
# gRegorLove Etherpads are linked from all the session pages on https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule#Saturday_2015-07-11 now.
# gRegorLove Schedule correction, too. I had mis-copied from the white board.
# gregorlove.com edited /2015/Schedule (+231) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ clean up session display names" (view diff)
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@iNavegar Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619960706885120000)
# JonPincus good idea for later session today: broadening the appeal of interweb
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@Socialmedia_age Two years of being on the #indieweb http://dragplus.com/post/id/31062672 (twitter.com/_/status/619961375876608000)
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# gRegorLove What are the other talky URLs and their rooms, bret/tantek?
# tantek gRegorLove: in the main room we’re just using /indiewebcamp
# gRegorLove Looks like right now there's https://beta.talky.io/iwc-community and https://beta.talky.io/indiewebcamp
# gRegorLove Latter is the main room, Picard
# gRegorLove Anticipated livestream links on http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/2015
# gRegorLove Resistance is futile
# gRegorLove Hi GWG. Just saw you for a second :)
# gRegorLove Your video is off now. Have flags up?
# gRegorLove GWG++
# gRegorLove GWG: Looks good from here
# tantek.com edited /own_your_data (+494) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Benwerd since 2013-07-11" (view diff)
# tantek !tell benwerd based on your blog post, I added you here: https://indiewebcamp.com/own_your_data#Ben_Werdmuller feel free to add more details / post types!
# gRegorLove Hey other room. Group photo time. bret
# Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: based on your blog post, I added you here: https://indiewebcamp.com/own_your_data#Ben_Werdmuller feel free to add more details / post types! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436646711662
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# @tinokremer Nice Ben and thank you for offering Known Pro. I'm just two weeks on the IndieWeb, though I have had my own site .. http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/nice-ben-and-thank-you-for-offering-known-pro-im (twitter.com/_/status/619972203220570112)
# @tinokremer RT @benwerd: Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619972847331602432)
# @tvnweb #IndieWebCamp Brighton group photo http:///photo.gne?rb=1 (twitter.com/_/status/619973488619687936)
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# misuba benwerd: I don’t suppose micropub will become supported for multi-users in this version?
# misuba benwerd: ohhh - drat. Guess I’m not off the hook for my React Native project then…
# misuba app for reading Known sites and subscriptions therein, plus posting. in theory.
# KevinMarks_ A reader like kyle and aaronpk?
# KevinMarks_ They may have advice
# KevinMarks_ Wondering if there is a way to support micropub with direct auth as well as indieauth
# misuba more just focused on Known, but… I guess?
# KevinMarks_ Well, if you use h-feed and micropub to do it, it will work with other indieweb sites too
# misuba except micropub doesn’t work with multi-user Known installs. but apparently I’m the only guy who runs one, so… ?
# KevinMarks_ So if a site has it's own auth, like known or the silo.pub gateway, indieauth does add ux complexity and setup overhead
# KevinMarks_ My site is multiuser known, but no-one else posts
# KevinMarks_ One answer suggested was subdomains per user which would allow indieauth to work, but adds complexity for ssl
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# Loqi slack/snarfed: benwerd: re marking up replies, sounds like yes h-cite. <http://indiewebcamp.com/comments-presentation#How_to_markup>
# misuba indieweb, y u no URLAuth?
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# misuba benwerd: huh?
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@lewisnyman RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @lewisnyman: I switched my site http:/// from Drupal to Jekyl which felt greta as I was writing ht… (twitter.com/_/status/619979294777962496)
# @lewisnyman RT @tvnweb: . @lewisnyman Shows off his website at #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619805744603496448/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/619979307331534852)
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werd.io edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+450) "/* Discovering Supported Syndication Targets */ Known expands on syndicate-to" (view diff)
# werd.io edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+9) "/* Discovering Supported Syndication Targets */" (view diff)
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# gRegorLove Books session in Riker is awaiting Paul, who may be locked out downstairs. Aaron just went to check.
# gRegorLove On the main etherpad
# gRegorLove They're anticipated links. Not sure if every session will be streaming
# gRegorLove Books moved to Picard. tantek is setting up video
# gRegorLove Books session etherpad: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/catalog
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# tantek e.g. publishes books he’s already read on http://paulmunday.net/read
# loqi.me created /Library_Thing (+73) "prompted by gRegorLove and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
# gRegorLove GWG: This is more general. A list of books you own, have read, etc.
# misuba aaronpk: is multi-user indieauth any harder than allowing full URLs instead of just domains?
# gRegorLove TIL: some libraries loan cake pans
# tantek e.g. this is the closest we have now: http://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#How_to_markup
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# tantek there’s h-cite which can be used for simple use-cases like http://paulmunday.net/read
# gRegorLove Paul mentioned isbn.nu for linking to titles by ISBN
# gRegorLove Tantek links to Amazon for his books, found a simple amazon URL he can drop the ISBN into
# Loqi h-cite is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up citations and references on web sites https://indiewebcamp.com/h-cite
# Loqi h-product is a microformats2 vocabulary for marking up product information on the web https://indiewebcamp.com/h-product
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@cstanhope RT @benwerd: Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/619993208441827328)
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@Tyson_ot_NW OCLC is the FIFA of libraries #worldcat #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/619993259507478528)
# gRegorLove WordPress plugin: Web Librarian
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# anomalily URL?
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# Loqi anomalily: aaronpk left you a message 3 days, 3 hours ago: here's info on the "See Original" link I was talking about https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE_to_Facebook#See_Original https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/user/feed#publish
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# gRegorLove anomalily: http://paulmunday.net/read
# gRegorLove What is edit post?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "edit post" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=edit+post&summary=prompted+by+gRegorLove+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436653684778
# gRegorLove tantek^
# loqi.me created /edit_post (+17) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436653684778 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
# gRegorLove what is edit?
# Loqi An edit (AKA diff, change) is a special type of reply that indicates a set of suggested changes to the post it is replying to. A collection of (presumably related) suggested edits in open source is often called a patch or pull request https://indiewebcamp.com/edit
# gRegorLove Whichever next session is largest should consider moving to Picard.
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# gRegorLove WordPress session?
# misuba I'm downstairs, can someone let me in?
# misuba aaronpk: thx!
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "book" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=book&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436654024641
# tantek e.g. see this for how many different citation formats there are: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-examples
# loqi.me created /book (+50) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436654024641 and dfn added by GWG" (view diff)
# tantek e.g. for librarything in particular, see: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-examples#LibraryThing
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# bret http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/node is the node discussion etherpad
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# gRegorLove Micropub etherpad http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/micropub, no video
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# gRegorLove tantek: 2015 Brighton had a micropub session too, bottom of the etherpad. Might want to move that up
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# KevinMarks_ If you look at the silo.pub instructions, you can see the overhead of not using intrinsic auth.
# tantek.com edited /2014-review (+1307) "/* Site Deaths 2014 */ summarize site-deaths before Readmill in 2014" (view diff)
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# gRegorLove Post styling in Riker. Etherpad: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/poststyling, no video
# aaronpk reader in Geordi http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/iwreader no video
# KartikPrabhu tantek, aaronpk, here is the promised post https://kartikprabhu.com/articles/webs-arrow-time
# KartikPrabhu aaronpk: added other examples besides your site to not pick on you :)
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# KartikPrabhu oh interesting my webmention sender does no recognise protocol-less URLs!
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# tjgillies_ the formatting on this page looks kinda off: http://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention
# tjgillies_ Don't have enough wiki foo to fix meself
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