#indieweb 2017-01-06

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@csageland @JohnMetta damn. Good bye @Medium? Can we keep all the content till now for posterity? CC @Sheldrake @goonth @t @indiewebcamp @augustpublic (twitter.com/_/status/817159682271821825)
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@csageland @louisgray @JohnMetta I guess this is why @indiewebcamp @t and @aaronpk work for a piece of the web for each of us (twitter.com/_/status/817160163400425472)
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@kevinmarks @csageland @JohnMetta I don't think @Medium plans to remove your stuff, but exporting regularly is always a good idea. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/817167569559769088)
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@kevinmarks The over eager retro smilies in Yaaic are always amusing #indieweb https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/817168736440369152/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/817168736440369152)
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Loqi [indieweb] "The over eager retro smilies in Yaaic are always amusing #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-01-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/the-over-eager-retro-smilies-in-yaaic-are-always-amusing
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@kevinmarks @csageland @louisgray @JohnMetta @indiewebcamp @t @aaronpk that's the idea. Post on your own site and on medium. https://indieweb.org/LOCKSS (twitter.com/_/status/817169761817612288)
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davidmead hey tantek
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GWG Hello, davidmead
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davidmead just noticed Flickr & Facebook links on your blog post goes to a 404 - http://tantek.com/2017/005/t2/ipod-custom-engraving-normalize-refusal
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] a jpg. 15d. Picked up a new iPod 6 Touch yesterday with custom engraving. Normalize refusal. #RESIST #latergram #nofilter “ U.S. 4A: I DO NOT CONSENT TO THE SEARCH OF THIS DEVICE ” Yes please copy this, no need for attribution. IANAL, I based i... https://scontent-sjc2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15403425_1300167236713846_6276370206545674240_n.jpg
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davidmead hi gwg
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tantek davidmead, both my Flickr and FB account POSSE posts are friends-only, so that search engines prefer the content on my site
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davidmead question for you GWG - Does bridgy publish consider previewing a post the same as it being posted?
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GWG It shouldn't, why?
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tantek basically, if you're not already following me there, there's no need for me to send you a copy there, you can get it from my site
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GWG If it does, then it is not working properly
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davidmead GWG - I’ve noticed when i previewed a couple of posts when the checkmark is selected for send to twitter the post is never sent when i actually hit publish
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tantek davidmead - just verified that the links work for me when logged in
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davidmead tantek - hmm i follow you on flickr but i don’t see that photo in your stream
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GWG davidmead: Then it is the transition from preview to publish that isn't triggering.
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tantek davidmead ah I think the way Flickr's private posts work, I have to follow you or something
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tantek let's see if this works
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tantek just followed - any luck?
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davidmead nope. i think if its private no one can see it. last one i see is https://www.flickr.com/photos/tantek/24619691323/in/dateposted/
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tantek ah that was explicitly made public
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tantek interesting, looks like I have to *also* mark you as a friend or a family
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davidmead i have everything being sent to flickr from my phone, instagram, etc. but it’s private and unseeable unles i mark it public
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tantek it's super buried party of the UI
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davidmead there you go tantek. i can see them now :-)
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tantek what are private posts?
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Loqi private posts refer to posts or portions of posts which are private to either the author or to a limited audience chosen by the author https://indieweb.org/private_posts
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tantek documenting screenshot
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tantek since it's quite rare, and a bit of a throwback
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tantek davidmead, this is the UI I had to use to make my private Flickr posts visible to you: https://indieweb.org/privacy#Flickr_Friends_Family
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tantek hope you don't mind I used you in the example :)
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davidmead i don’t mind
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davidmead that looks unchanged from years ago, before the redesign
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tantek likely ignored/neglected
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-01-06.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek what is Strava?
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Loqi Strava is a run and bicycle exercise tracking silo that also has native client apps https://indieweb.org/Strava
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@realkimhansen I somehow just participated in a slack conversation with my friends from the indieweb and my friends from indie gamedev. My life is awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/817270293475434497)
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tantek nice
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kbh HI
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kbh is this is android cha dev chat room?
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cweiske this is this was this will
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kbh is there any one know how to back up entire flash of android phone?
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cweiske what is indieweb?
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Loqi The IndieWeb is about owning your domain and using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and ownyourdata https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
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cweiske what if we answered android questions here?
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4mCVQw6h.jpg
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indie-visitor Hi
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indie-visitor is there any easy fast boot methods to back up entire phone flash image back up?
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petermolnar kbh, indie-visitor this is not the room to answer that, please try somewhere else
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@xtof_fr #UX #design Invitations #RSVP #indieweb #jamstatic Parcels sera le 16 février au Point Ephérmère #RSVP… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/817326864695955456 (twitter.com/_/status/817326864695955456)
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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aaronpk good morning!
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Loqi *yawn*
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@TerminalPixel Day 005 of #100DaysOfCode: I've made a very simple chatbot to post to #indieweb micropub endpoints https://flowxo.com/share/vkerj8j7 (twitter.com/_/status/817390876590829568)
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[terminalpixel] Still needs a lot of work that bot but Flow XO is great fun to play around with
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gRegorLove What is Flow XO?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Flow XO" yet. Would you like to create it?
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@m_ott And this tweet actually would have deserved an #IndieWeb hashtag, but it just didn’t fit. ;) https://twitter.com/m_ott/status/817405200260591617 (twitter.com/_/status/817406502671679488)
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sebsel got myself an event with RSVP :D https://seblog.nl/2017/01/11/1
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club
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Zegnat sebsel++
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Loqi sebsel has 8 karma in this channel (9 overall)
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sebsel so, next up is a Facebook POSSE-copy, but I don't have Facebook.
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ben_thatmustbeme well, that sort of kills the need for facebook POSSE copy doesn't it?
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sebsel yeah Zegnat has friends invited.
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Zegnat Oh, man the latest xkcd is on point. https://m.xkcd.com/1782/ - aaronpk ;)
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ben_thatmustbeme lol
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aaronpk hahaha
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Loqi aaronpk: lol
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aaronpk whoa i just noticed greg supports photos in reply contexts!
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tantek is that even documented?
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aaronpk it is now!
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aaronpk previously there was a "brainstorming" section with a mockup from my site
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tantek just saw :)
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tantek oh yeah!
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aaronpk but now I don't even display reply contexts on my new site yet :P
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aaronpk er i mean, i don't display contents of the post, just the URL
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tantek oh dear - not even "in reply to: URL" like me?
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tantek oh ok :)
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aaronpk yeah just like you pretty much
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tantek "hipster reply context"
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aaronpk i'll bring back full reply contexts soon. it's going to be using XRay to fetch the post like everything else, so i had to finish that first
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@ChrisAldrich A Secondary Meaning for POSSE http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/06/a-secondary-meaning-for-posse/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/817420560133214208/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/817420560133214208)
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myfreeweb heh, i just invoke the same 'showContent' template for both reply contexts and own posts
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aaronpk wow, nice
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myfreeweb https://github.com/myfreeweb/sweetroll/blob/98d90bbd7eef86e0afee85462e423956a1a6d336/templates/showContent.ejs it should even support video and audio :D
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tantek hah - second meaning for POSSE, like there's only one Sheriff (original post) but many deputies?
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myfreeweb by the way: https://unrelenting.technology/notes/2017-01-06-01-41-45
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Loqi [Greg] Wow – looks like GNU Social has actual webmention + microformats2 integration… but it’s not enabled by default and no instance admins bothered to enable it. Fail. On a more positive note, quitter.se runs on FreeBSD :)...
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tantek that's probably ok for now until we have some experience with trying it out, debugging, and maybe even planning Vouch implementation
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myfreeweb is there any public server to try it out with?
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tantek good question - when you find one, document it on /GNU_Social!
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tantek what is GNU Social?
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Loqi GNU social is a free software project that "will be a decentralized social network that you can install on your own server" https://indieweb.org/GNU_social
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gRegorLove Webmention is pretty new to GNU Social. 2015-12-14 per wiki
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tantek sending, receiving, displaying, how much?
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myfreeweb a whole year is not what i'd consider new
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tantek 2015? I'm assuming that's a typo
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myfreeweb no it was a year ago https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/merge_requests/41/commits
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aaronpk wow
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tantek same question stands
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tantek srd, hm?
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked this tweet: https://twitter.com/TerminalPixel/status/817390876590829568 Grant Richmond on Twitter: “Day 005 of #100DaysOfCode: I’ve made a very simple chatbot to post to #indieweb micropub endpoints https://t.co/TadZ9LGCf9“" by Scott Kingery on 2017-01-06 http://techlifeweb.com/15126-2/
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gRegorLove Derp. It's not 2016 anymore. My bad. Haha.
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Loqi nice
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gRegorLove Argh. On FB, clicked "Duplicate Event" on one of my public events. The UI populates the event's information and photo, but is set to "create private event". Switched it to "create public event" and it removed the event photo.
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gRegorLove Also, switching the date field randomly makes the time field go back one hour.
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tantek what is create event?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "create event" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek hmm
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tantek what is create?
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Loqi create in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new post, in its simplest form, a new note https://indieweb.org/create
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tantek create event in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new event post, in its simplest form a new event permalink. Silo examples: [[create#Facebook_Events]]. See also [[create]].
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tantek create event in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new event post, in its simplest form a new event permalink. Silo examples: [[create#Facebook_Events]]
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tantek oh I forgot is
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tantek create event is the act of and UI for creating a new [[event]] post, in its simplest form a new event permalink. Silo examples: [[create#Facebook_Events]]. See also [[create]].
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Loqi ok
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tantek gRegorLove: ^^^ feel free to add to that!
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tantek I already started documenting here https://indieweb.org/create#Facebook_Events
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tantek and some here too https://indieweb.org/edit#Facebook_Events
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@tkadlec @rachelandrew I waffle :) I have them on, but plan to move to https://indieweb.org/Webmention as it feels like a healthier way to promote discussion (twitter.com/_/status/817439893324529664)
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gRegorLove "As we move our code to CodePen, our writing to Medium, our photographs to Instagram we don’t just run the risk of losing that content and the associated metadata if those services vanish. We also lose our own place to experiment and add personality to that content, in the context of our own home on the web."
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gRegorLove from https://rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2017/01/05/its-more-than-just-the-words/
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KevinMarks1 slef-hosted codepen would be nice
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KevinMarks1 I suppose that's what Dabblet is
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KevinMarks1 gillmor gang time
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KevinMarks1 gnusocial has mf2 markup, but the quitter skin is js
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KevinMarks1 looks like we're going to talk about Medium
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aaronpk i have a post for you
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aaronpk also: https://quill.p3k.io/editor
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aaronpk works without being logged in
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aaronpk so feel free to share
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KevinMarks1 oh neat.
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KevinMarks1 could it integrate silo.pub login?
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aaronpk interesting
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KevinMarks1 I mean it works, but you have to do a lot of faffing
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aaronpk i'd have to think about that
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KevinMarks1 then it becomes a wp, blogger, tumblr editor too
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KevinMarks1 no logout button, so I can't easily try other logins
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aaronpk oops yeah you have to go to the home page to log out
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KevinMarks1 you have cloned medium's grey ui a bit too closely IMO
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aaronpk heh
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aaronpk KevinMarks1: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/06/8/day-17-quill-docs
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Day 17: Documentation for Quill #100DaysOfIndieWeb
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@100daysindieweb Day 17: Documentation for Quill #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/06/8/day-17-quill-docs (twitter.com/_/status/817451908394668032)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@cswordpress @webrocker I'd noticed that WP-Social quit support a while back, but didn't know why; sorry to hear it. I wrote some thoughts here [https://github.com/crowdfavorite/wp-social/issues/213]" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-06 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/cswordpress-webrocker-id-noticed-that-wp-social-quit-support-a-while
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tantek Kevinmarks, Mastodon now supports microformats2
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tantek that's worth announcing on GG
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tantek thanks to myfreeweb
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tantek or rather, they've landed the support
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tantek and the live site will be updated with it "soon" presumably
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tantek what is data retention?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "data retention" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek hmm
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tantek let's try this again
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tantek particularly interested (as usual) in bear's opinion
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tantek oh looks like I brough that up in dev
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tantek https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-01-05#t1483657557056000
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Loqi [tantek] hey, out of curiosity, does anyone's site here have a posted data retention policy?
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tantek I think all users should care / be aware of data retention issues
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bear yep, i've been agitating for that on quite a few sites
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tantek bear, good. I'm agitating now on devices too
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bear because a well defined data retention policy also helps the Ops folk know when they can safely delete things
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tantek to limit potential exposure should a device be "lost" and then "broken into" by someone without the owners permission
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tantek has both personal and corp use-cases
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bear agreed - it's a rarely mentioned item for IoT folks
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tantek I'm thinking of only keeping say 30d of even txt messages on my iPod
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bear see also the current marketing items for Apple and Google for photos
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tantek because all the messages go through iCloud, they get sent to multiple devices anyway, so all i have to do is keep an "archive" on a device I don't carry with me
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tantek now experimenting with what deletes do
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tantek e.g. deleting an iMessage txt on one device does not appear to delete from other devices
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bear the same happens with Google Photos - deleting on a device does not remove it from the "cloud"
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bear but deleting it in the browser does sync/delete it on devices
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tantek and just tried deleting a whole "thread" (i.e. all messages with one particular contact address) - also does not delete from other devices
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KevinMarks1 https://twitter.com/godtributes/status/817452615164448770
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@godtributes @kevinmarks DOCUMENTATIONS FOR THE DOCUMENTATION GOD! GOOSE QUILLS FOR THE GOOSE QUILL THRONE (twitter.com/_/status/817452615164448770)
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tantek wat
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aaronpk is that from my tweet??
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KevinMarks1 yes
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KevinMarks1 mastodon news is good, as they just added hcards before
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Week in Review #100DaysOfIndieWeb" https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/06/9/week-in-review
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bear Google Hangouts API is being shutdown -- https://developers.google.com/+/hangouts/support-faq "The Google+ Hangouts API is no longer supported. New apps cannot be created but existing apps will continue to run until April 25th, 2017. After that date, apps in Hangouts will no longer function."
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tantek what is Google Hangouts?
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Loqi Hangouts is Google's messaging tool that supports chat, groups, SMS/MMS (on Android), and videoconferencing https://indieweb.org/Google_Hangouts
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tantek bear, worth adding to Criticism ^^^
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bear done
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tantek wow, according to my iTunes (OSX app) I have 213 iOS apps (not counting the built-in Apple apps!)
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tantek there's no way I need or use even half those
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tantek 100daysofdeletingapps looks pretty doable
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aaronpk wow
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tantek which likely also means 100daysofdeletingaccounts is doable, since most apps require an account
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tantek I think the "hardest" part of both of those is the implied documentation thereof
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aaronpk that'd be fun to follow
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tantek since before deleting an app (especially account), you'd want to: 1. export any data, 2. review their data retention policies (so you can "know" when/if your data/account is "actually" deleted), 3. review and delete any OAuth connections (in or out), 4. document each of those steps for each app/silo (preferably with screenshots and how to) on the wiki. anything else?
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tantek I feel like there is a bit of a moral responsibility to pursue this in light of expected increased surveillance
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sknebel "most apps require an account"... now I'm curious about statistics regarding that, since I think the vast majority of apps I use doesn't require one, and a large part of the remaining is an alternative way of accessing an account I have otherwise
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tantek and reduce the barriers / friction / fear / unknown around deleting any particular app or account
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure "most" of the apps on my phone don't require an account, but there are certainly lots
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sknebel (but I select fairly strongly against "requires an account", so my numbers likely are quite skewed to the average)
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tantek hmm, I think I even know what featured photo to use for the "delete your accounts" page
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tantek looks for a particular tweet
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aaronpk so many email notifications about having just logged into apps on my new computer
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aaronpk i actually like it. it's a nice security feature.
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tantek indeed
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tantek hmm, that's worth noting
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tantek aaronpk, does your website send you an email notification when you log into it from another device?
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aaronpk nope but now i'm tempted
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tantek or quill for that matter
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tantek anything that consumes indieauth could benefit from that feature
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tantek found it
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aaronpk i would want my authorization server to notify me any time it granted access to apps or saw a new device
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tantek https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/740973710593654784
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@HillaryClinton Delete your account. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/740972317191352320 (twitter.com/_/status/740973710593654784)
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aaronpk so it wouldn't be quill that sends the notification, since quill is the thing that the potential attacker is signing in to
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tantek aaronk, why not both?
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tantek aaronpk, what's this feature called?
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tantek anything in common in the subject lines of all those emails?
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aaronpk "new sign-in"
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-01-06-12-42-33.png
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aaronpk dropbox's is called "you've linked a new computer to dropbox"
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aaronpk and "new login"
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tantek what is a sign-in notification?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sign-in notification" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek (because I think that's what it really is, email is just one comms medium)
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gRegorLove Facebook calls it "Login Alert"
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tantek an alert is a form of notification
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gRegorLove I can post a screenshot of the FB email; just recently had a new one.
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aaronpk thank goodness for dropbox LAN sync
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tantek let's see if there's an obvious preponderance term/phrase in the emails that aaronpk gets
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gRegorLove Heh, FB's street address is 1 Hacker Way
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tantek so far all of them in his screenshot use sign-in or sign in to
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tantek though that's only 3 providers
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aaronpk here are dropbox's https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-01-06-12-45-57.png
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tantek linked seems different, i.e. like pairing
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tantek linked/paired is an authorization notification, whereas login/sign-in is an authentication notification
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aaronpk well it happened when i logged in to the dropbox desktop app
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tantek similarly, you may get alerts when you authorize new apps to access an account on a silo
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tantek aaronpk, sure, an authorization notification may imply that an authentication took place (or not, depending on the oauth setup, and whether you were already signed-in or not)
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tantek definitely would be interesting if indieauth.com sent you an email whenever it noticed you sign-in from a different device, or into a different service
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tantek e.g. indieauth.com could use the h-card on your site to look for your email
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tantek or other comms related URL (sms: tel: fax:) ) see also: http://tantek.com/2014/084/b1/urls-people-focused-mobile-communication
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] URLs For People Focused Mobile Communication
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aaronpk lol fax yes
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aaronpk hm what is the smallest thermal printer i can get for my desk
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aaronpk i want to let people send me faxes via webmention
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sknebel sparkfun has (had?) a kit basd on the print head from a POS machine
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sknebel https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10438
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sknebel might get resolution problems with faxes though ;)
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tantek aaronpk, https://www.crunchbase.com/product/little-printer https://twitter.com/littleprinter http://littleprinterblog.tumblr.com/ - if you can find one there's an open source community with open source backend!
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tantek http://littleprinterblog.tumblr.com/post/135639648293/end-of-2015
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aaronpk i thougth that shut down
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tantek It did! point is there is open source to keep your devices running! run your own server! etc.
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aaronpk oh neat
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tantek which likely means you can find them cheap used
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tantek since few people want to hassle with "open source" ;)
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tantek pluss you could just ask @mattb if he has any extras lying around
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aaronpk wait that was him??
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tantek (same co-founder as Dopplr)
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tantek yup
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aaronpk oh gosh i never knew that
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tantek he's the "Matt" in the Tumblr link above
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aaronpk oh my
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GWG Afternoon
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chrisaldrich tantek: one of the problems with #100daysofdeletingaccounts is finding/remembering all the ones you've opened. I tried making a list a while back and I know it's far from complete: http://boffosocko.com/about/social-media-accounts-and-links/
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Loqi chrisaldrich: tantek left you a message 1 week, 2 days ago: definitely add any /read examples (with permalinks please) you have, no matter how rough, or plain text etc. to: https://indieweb.org/read#Chris_Aldrich
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Loqi chrisaldrich: tantek left you a message 2 days, 17 hours ago: feel free to start https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club with location/virtual details! Use this as a template: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [indieweb] "Be #PostProprietaryBlobs. Be #PostSilos. #BeFreeYo. #EncryptYoConvos #OwnYourData #IndieWeb" by Kurt on 2017-01-04 https://freekurt.com/2017/be-postproprietaryblobsbe-postsilosbefreeyoencryptyoconvosownyourdataindieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "FreeKurt.com is back! Had some database issues for a little while there. Sorry about the disruption! #indieweb" by Kurt on 2017-01-04 https://freekurt.com/2017/freekurtcom-is-back-had-some-database-issues-for-a-little
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Loqi [indieweb] "What does the post silo publication/messaging internet look like? Welp, it def includes #indieweb @indiewebcamp #gnusocial @gnusocial #OMEMO" by Kurt on 2017-01-04 https://freekurt.com/2017/what-does-the-post-silo-publicationmessaging-internet-look-like-welp
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Loqi Social Media Accounts and Links
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GWG Hello, Chrisaldrich
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arush1 #100daysofdeletingaccounts is probably a lot like achieving inbox0. Once people realize how much work is involved, they give it up. This includes myself.
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tantek ChrisAldrich, start with your 1password or Keychain or Firefox remembered passwords
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tantek arush1 - 100daysofdeletingaccounts is MUCH easier than inbox0
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tantek first, it's "only" 100 accounts, you don't have to hit 0 accounts
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tantek second, you can go from least used first
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arush1 tantek - True. I think I've gotten rid of most, (no passwords remembered, for example), but trying to find reasonably accessible alternatives to things like Fitbit.
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tantek arush1 have you blogged about the ones you've gotten rid of and how?
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arush1 tantek - not specifically, although now that you bring it up I should probably do that. I've got notes for most of it
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Loqi [indieweb] "@cswordpress I hadn't run across the keyboard issue with the bookmarklet yet, but I'm glad you're taking a look at fixing it. If you" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-06 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/cswordpress-i-hadnt-run-across-the-keyboard-issue-with-the
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on PressForward as an IndieWeb WordPress-based RSS Feed Reader & Pocket/Instapaper Replacement by Amanda J. Rush" by Amanda J. Rush on 2017-01-05 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/31/pressforward-as-an-indieweb-wordpress-based-rss-feed-reader-pocketinstapaper-replacement/#comment-33406
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arush1 The actual account deletions plus finding alternatives that will work with assistive technologies, which is the harder part.
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-01-06.html
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@xtof_fr Culture #design MeatBall #indieweb Prévert Ma Mission sera : Faire que chaque enfant puisse développer ses possibilités de choix. (twitter.com/_/status/817490250314448897)
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@dkreuz @dentaku die vom #indieweb? Was verwirrt dich? (twitter.com/_/status/817490692926738432)
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@m_ott ? Just published v0.3.0 of the #Webmention plugin for @CraftCMS. Now included: Webmention sending! https://github.com/matthiasott/webmention #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/817490911596871684)
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@cswordpress Very nice! #indieweb https://twitter.com/m_ott/status/817490911596871684 (twitter.com/_/status/817491024385863683)
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@m_ott Huge thanks to @jgarber for the kind permission to use parts of the code of his webmention client plugin! #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/817491073106841600)
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aaronpk whoa i was able to complete the facebook two-factor auth without entering the code
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aaronpk my login showed up as a notification on my phone, and when i tapped it it asked if i wanted to approve it and when i clicked yes, it finished logging in on the computer
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arush1 aaronpk - that's ... not good.
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aaronpk it's pretty good. i opened the facebook app on my phone in order to go dig up the "code generator" thing but this was way easier and essentially equivalent
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snarfed google has had the same thing for a while
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snarfed 2fa security is still fine. just need to have the phone/device and confirm the login. nothing magic about six digit numbers!
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@dkreuz @dentaku Ist ein Pingback/Trackback, aber besser. Geht aber nur gut bei #indieweb-Seiten. Was für Einstellmöglichkeiten / Software nutzt du? (twitter.com/_/status/817492154364862466)
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snarfed google's internal employee 2fa app let you knock on your phone twice to confirm login. that was the best, didn't even need to take it out of my pocket. :P
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@dentaku @dkreuz Ich habe mal mit dem IndieWeb-Paket für WP angefangen und auf dem dort verlinkten Facebook/Twitter-Integrationsserver rumgeklickt. (twitter.com/_/status/817495522328055809)
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snarfed hey aaronpk, any luck on counting wm.io's and telegraph's wms?
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snarfed still low priority :P
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aaronpk oops totally forgot
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chrisaldrich Hey GWG: Ran away for a minute and have to head off to a few appts. Catch you when I'm back....
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snarfed hopes for six figures
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@dkreuz @dentaku musst in meine Vorlesung kommen ;) Kennst du https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ und https://indieweb.org/webmention ? (twitter.com/_/status/817499403279859716)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-01-06.html
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aaronpk whoa i didn't realize that xtofr translated the 100 days page to french! amazing! https://indieweb.org/100DaysOfIndieWeb-fr
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aaronpk there we go
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on PressForward as an IndieWeb WordPress-based RSS Feed Reader & Pocket/Instapaper Replacement by @cswordpress I hadn't run across the keyboard issue with the bookmarklet yet, but I'm glad you're taking a look at fixing it. If you" by @cswordpress I hadn't run across the keyboard issue with the bookmarklet yet, but I'm glad you're taking a look at fixing it. If you on 2017-01-06 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/31/pressforward-as-an-indieweb-wordpress-based-rss-feed-reader-pocketinstapaper-replacement/#comment-33416
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-01-06.html (twitter.com/_/status/817509810035826688)
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@adactio @davatron5000 I don’t (yet) own my own replies. Some other indieweb folk are doing that though. (twitter.com/_/status/817518862417661953)
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tantek It's interesting, I still think that's a key tipping point in making the indieweb as a web happen. When you start replying from your own site, directly to other sites (perhaps with POSSE threading too), you start to realize the silo(s) could go away completely, and your conversation would still be there.
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tantek And it makes you feel just that much less dependent on silos
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tantek interesting silo-quit survey: https://twitter.com/davatron5000/status/817458040786001920
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@davatron5000 Anyone else starting to look for a way out of Twitter? (twitter.com/_/status/817458040786001920)
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tantek aww, Loqi doesn't know about Twitter poll options?
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miklb not sure available to API. Tweetbot can't do polls either
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tantek miklb, even just reading the poll options would be good
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tantek nevermind creating a poll or answering a poll
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myfreeweb polls are only available if you steal the official apps' api keys