#indieweb 2017-01-25
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@cleverdevil @daringfireball @Darchmare good to see you supporting this, John! We’ve backed it big at @DreamHost. <3 The IndieWeb! (twitter.com/_/status/824047076430397440)
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GWG tantek: The plugin is roughly 8 months old. The author has released 8 plugins in the last year without much interest, but I like his About page. https://www.slightfuture.com/about
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GWG This seems to be his actual page: https://www.daniel.priv.no/
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tantek this is a great trick to keep the previous version of a site / templates etc. running just for easy a/b comparison - an extra "/" at the end of the URL (so the URL ends with "//") for the older version! http://cogdogblog.com/2017/01/weird-flickr-trick
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chrisaldrich tantek: the Post Archival (archive.org) plugin you mentioned earlier isn't too bad. They recently pushed an update (at my nudging) to archive not only the user's post, but the contents of links within the body. https://wordpress.org/plugins/post-archival/
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chrisaldrich I don't think there are any others on WP that do that. I'd looked a month or two ago after IWC-LA
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chrisaldrich GWG, I think he'd actually read something I'd posted somewhere else and took the suggestion.
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chrisaldrich Tantek, I suspect that he built in a small delay on the one for near term updates/typos. Not quite sure why he added the 12 hour wait on the other, but it's tweakable in the code if necessary.
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@t #100DoPP d5: Every link I post is auto-archived @InternetArchive. You can too: https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive E.g.: http://tantek.com/2017/024/t1 (twitter.com/_/status/824055880610091009)
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chrisaldrich I've had him on my list to reach out to, but have been swamped with work lately.
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KevinMarks1 I auto-archive things on svgur/svgshare
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KevinMarks1 'cos my known is hosted by Known inc, so I can't add plugins myself
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KevinMarks1 I don't know
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KevinMarks1 it is a good idea
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KevinMarks1 I was thinking that would be something to add to mention-tech
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tantek !tell benwerd Is there a Known plugin to automatically auto-internet-archive the links in your posts? e.g. as documented here: https://indieweb.org/archive.org#Trigger_an_Archive
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chrisaldrich tantek: I don't think there is yet. See https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1610
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chrisaldrich GWG: I don't recall sadly. I have a sneaking suspicion that he had a google alert on his plugin name and saw a post I wrote about it.
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tantek if you are, add yourself http://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#IndieWeb_Examples
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KevinMarks1 hm, something isn't working with the svgshare ones though
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chrisaldrich I think I'd suggested that the ubiquitous Broken Link Checker which has some archive.org functionality built into it could add the functionality to "close the loop" essentially: https://github.com/ManageWP/broken-link-checker/issues/23
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chrisaldrich I have a feeling that Daniel then saw the note from that and implemented it himself.
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich: since you archive your own posts, do you link to the archive with a syndicate-to or similar? I know it's not exactly a syndication.
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gRegorLove Guess that could get meta when Internet Archive comes back around and takes another snapshot of the post :)
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chrisaldrich I had thought about that gRegorLove... it's on my list somewhere, but it's a bit further down. Syndicating to Archive.org probably doesn't get me a lot of traffic the way Facebook or Twitter might.
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gRegorLove Hehe
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@t If you tweet for an org: think #indieweb 1. post on your site before Twitter 2. auto-archive links to @InternetArchive (ttk.me t4mW2) (twitter.com/_/status/824058766207361025)
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Loqi [indieweb] "If you tweet for an org: think #indieweb
1. post on your site before Twitter
2. auto-archive links to @InternetArchive" on 2017-01-25 http://tantek.com/2017/024/t2/think-indieweb-your-site-before-twitter
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chrisaldrich Maybe if the WaybackMachine supported webmentions and I was getting lots of commentary from there... ;)
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gRegorLove I'm telling you, 2017 is the year IA is going to become the hot social network. :)
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chrisaldrich alright, off to math class; catch you all later....
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KevinMarks1 related: https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/824044882905829377
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@kevinmarks @slightlylate having other copies is often a good thing - this is what I was getting at with http://svgshare.com/dweb @seldo @w3ctag (twitter.com/_/status/824044882905829377)
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KevinMarks1 see thread
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KevinMarks1 what is rsvp?
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Loqi An RSVP is a reply to an event post that says whether the sender is or is not attending, might attend, or is just interested in the event https://indieweb.org/rsvp
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KevinMarks1 that's what you want, aquarius_
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KevinMarks1 we do that for SF with a known post, as known supports rsvp
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KevinMarks1 but it is a little opaque
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KevinMarks1 aaron built some UI for it for the indieweb summit last year
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@sil @paul_tibbetts your homework before tomorrow evening is to look at https://indieweb.org/rsvp :-) (twitter.com/_/status/824062832480256001)
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KevinMarks1 hm, I have a svgur vs svgshare problem
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KevinMarks Which is a bit ironic in a lookup by hash context
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@TT_SemWeb Internet Archive - IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/topic/RWW/semantic-web?s=tnp (twitter.com/_/status/824072590549549056)
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KevinMarks1 I made an svg 404 page for the svg bit of svgur
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KevinMarks1 http://svgur.com/i/nope.svg
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@gKrishnaKS Trigger archiving of any publicly available page to Internet Archive's Wayback machine https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive @internetarchive @magikalyan (twitter.com/_/status/824104596666597377)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked this tweet: https://twitter.com/t/status/824058766207361025 ⚡️ on Twitter: “If you tweet for an org: think #indieweb 1. post on your site before Twitter 2. auto-archive links to @InternetArchive (ttk.me t4mW2)”" by Scott Kingery on 2017-01-25 http://techlifeweb.com/15175-2/
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Loqi [indieweb] "Retweeted this tweet https://twitter.com/bph/status/823879672593321984: Birgit Pauli-Haack on Twitter: “Indie Microblogging: owning your short-form writing is popular on @Kickstarter! https://t.co/29kA1IrqPg by Manton Reece @manton2 #indieweb”" by Scott Kingery on 2017-01-25 http://techlifeweb.com/15177-2/
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@etportis @gRegorLove saw you're starting an IndieWebCamp in Bellingham (!). I can’t ferry over from Orcas tomorrow, but! Hopefully! In the future! (twitter.com/_/status/824120442801754112)
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@100daysindieweb Day 34: New test for https://webmention.rocks/ #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/23/5/day-34-webmention-rocks (twitter.com/_/status/824126387091075072)
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@100daysindieweb Day 35: Handling Redirects of Updated Blog Posts #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/24/14/day-35-redirects-and-oauth (twitter.com/_/status/824126446876717056)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Retweeted this tweet https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/823991180887228416: ChrisAldrich on Twitter: “Weird Flickr URL Trick https://t.co/sKUCb0D1pD #UX #UI #Indieweb”" by Scott Kingery on 2017-01-25 http://techlifeweb.com/15188-2/
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Loqi [indieweb] "That's a well worded synopsis. Welcome to the IndieWeb Keith!
I'm curious if, as a CSS expert--which I am assuredly not, your book has a" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-25 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/thats-a-well-worded-synopsis-welcome-to-the-indieweb-keith
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@ChrisAldrich @keithjgrant That's a well worded synopsis. Welcome to the IndieWeb! I'm curious if, as a CSS expert--which I am… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/thats-a-well-worded-synopsis-welcome-to-the-indieweb-keith (twitter.com/_/status/824162330887987201)
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@kevinmarks Day 2 Saving webmentioned URLs to https://archive.org #100DaysOfIndieWeb: http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/day-2-saving-webmentioned-urls-to-archiveorg-100daysofindieweb (twitter.com/_/status/824164291192426496)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Day 2 Saving webmentioned URLs to archive.org #100DaysOfIndieWeb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-01-25 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/day-2-saving-webmentioned-urls-to-archiveorg-100daysofindieweb
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@kevinmarks Back in 2008, before "fake news" was a meme, @aaronsw started a novel about tech controlling attention http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/bubblecity #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/824194069190545410)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Back in 2008, before "fake news" was a meme, @aaronsw started a novel about tech controlling attention http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/bubblecity #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-01-25 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/back-in-2008-before-fake-news-was-a-meme-aaronsw
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cweiske already reported as I see: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/46
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Days 1 to 10 of #100daysofindieweb" https://seblog.nl/2017/01/25/3/days-1-to-10-of-100daysofindieweb
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[jeremycherfas] Sebsel++
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KevinMarks_ So is 10 days a new fortnight?
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KartikPrabhu 10 days was called a decade in the French revolutionary calendar
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ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks_: its a metric fortnight :P
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KevinMarks_ 3 new weeks could be a fiftnight
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hongpong i cleaned up a drupal 8 module that could be used to do webmentions https://github.com/HongPong/linkback awaiting some attention: https://www.drupal.org/node/2758041 (linkback would be successor to D7 vinculum, and be modular re pingbacks, webmentions). mostly was done by aleix who is looking it over again today
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Loqi Drupal is a popular open source content management system https://indieweb.org/Drupal
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@gRegorLove @etportis Hi Eric! Yeah, we have a Homebrew Website Club meetup every two weeks. Next will be Feburary 8. I'll send you an invite. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/824307372596269056)
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gRegorLove Wonder why my pushes with "indieweb" don't show up here. Maybe because I'm using http://gregorlove.superfeedr.com/ instead of their main one?
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tantek Zegnat - no sign of anything Netherlands / Amsterdam here! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club - perhaps add it last minute and see if you can get anyone?
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@gRegorLove @etportis There’s talk of a Seattle IndieWebCamp this year, too: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Seattle (twitter.com/_/status/824309730990399488)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Anyone know if you can modify WordPress’ “PressThis” bookmarklet to set the post format automatically? #indieweb" by Scott Kingery on 2017-01-25 http://techlifeweb.com/15200-2/
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@TechLifeWeb Anyone know if you can modify WordPress’ “PressThis” bookmarklet to set the post format automatically? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/824313078225502210)
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hongpong thank you Zegnat . once we have a commit on the real project i will add it back to indieweb. i already set notices on the vinculum issues, that we are moving to more easily understood "linkback" community contrib module for Drupal 8. with luck, traction on global sprint day
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@jkphl Homebrew Website Clubbin' in Nuremberg again! #indieweb https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/824315601871114240/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/824315601871114240)
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@ChrisAldrich Want to know who's talking about #indieweb on Twitter? I've got a "bot" that compiles a list: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/tweets-indieweb/members (twitter.com/_/status/824320579691941888)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Want to know who's talking about #indieweb on Twitter? I've got a "bot" that compiles a list: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/tweets-indieweb/members" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-25 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/want-to-know-whos-talking-about-indieweb-on-twitter-ive
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hongpong the code has been added to the repo and cleanup is proceeding before a dev release: https://www.drupal.org/project/linkback
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hongpong they made me and aleix as co maintainers so we can move things ahead nicely
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Loqi adactio: aaronpk left you a message on 2016-12-22 at 4:19pm UTC: looks like you have a stray "p-name" class on your comment template. if you remove the p-name from the line that links to the permalink, and move it to the e-content element instead, the inline previews like https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-12-22#t1482423477475000 will look better!
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message 1 week, 6 days ago: got a photo from HWC to add to https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club#Photos ?
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gRegorLove What is Granary?
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Loqi granary is a library and REST API that frees you from social network API chaff and and exposes the sweet social data foodstuff inside as HTML and JSON with microformats2, ActivityStreams, Atom, XML, and more https://indieweb.org/granary
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "h-feed to RSS converter" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove adactio: Granary ^
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Loqi Unmung is a service that turns Atom and RSS feeds into h-feeds https://indieweb.org/unmung
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gRegorLove Granary's worked great for me. I have a redirect to it for my notes Atom feed.
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gRegorLove adactio: I use Granary as a hosted service for mine
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gRegorLove gregorlove.com/notes.atom is: https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=atom&url=http://gregorlove.com/notes/
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gRegorLove https://granary-demo.appspot.com/ click the microformats logo
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gRegorLove It's snarfed's baby, so he can also answer any questions. Responsive to bug reports too :)
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gRegorLove Despite the "demo" in the name he's cool with us using it. I checked :)
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cdevroe Hello T! Long time. Well, I was envious of David Mead’s set up (and Jeremy’s) and I wrote about it here: http://cdevroe.com/2017/01/23/the-slow-web-and-posse/ — In that I list a few things that I cannot do currently that I would like to. Most noteably, post to Facebook directly from my site and show likes/retweets on my site. Rather than continue to build upon the simple WordPress plugin I have now, that posts to Twitter, Mead
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amber1 Hi everyone, this is my first time on indieweb chat
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gRegorLove cdevroe: Do you receive / send webmention?
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chrisaldrich cdevroe: GWG has a nice WordPress plugin called Bridgy Publish that should automatically handle the WP to Bridgy portion for publishing to several services like Twitter, etc. https://wordpress.org/plugins/bridgy-publish/
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gRegorLove Backfeed is probably the easiest to set up. Authenticate to Bridgy with your Twitter and it will monitor replies to tweets (which include a link to your site) and it builds a microformat version of the reply and sends a webmention to your original.
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gRegorLove finds an example
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chrisaldrich GWG has been actively working on it for the past two weeks, so if you see problems, issues, please do file them at https://github.com/dshanske/bridgy-publish/issues
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WordPress with Bridgy" yet. Would you like to create it?
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chrisaldrich Though Bridgy Publish gives you simple checkboxes, it can also be illustrative to read through the about page on bridgy to see what's happening directly. Sometimes handcoding the html can be very instructive for how a lot of indieweb works.
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gRegorLove cdevroe: Bridgy generates a page like https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/gRegorLove/823783004774535170/823900355398397952 for replies, then sends a webmention to my original link with that URL as the source.
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gRegorLove No, it's only going forward from when you log in to Bridgy afaik
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gRegorLove The polling probably pulls your latest X replies from Twitter. So it might go back a short period.
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gRegorLove cdevroe: That list of interactions on your Bridgy page, in the right column it will indicate if it sent a webmention to you or if no link was found
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chrisaldrich tantek: I'm doing a small one at the house with a friend tonight because of some location conflicts, but sadly nothing "official" until next month.
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gRegorLove If the tweet they're replying to has your original post link, it sends the webmention to that. Otherwise, Bridgy does some /posse-post-discovery and uses the syndicate-to links it finds on your original feed.
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gRegorLove Usually "bridgy" is all it takes :)
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chrisaldrich cdevroe: when you first set it up, you can hit the little refresh icon for old ones to send them and that should work, but I think you can only go back so far....
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tantek chrisaldrich could you add a note about "nothing "official" until next month" to https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club#Where ?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WordPress with Bridgy" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove cdevroe: I use the /posse-post-discovery method myself. E.g. https://gregorlove.com/2017/01/really-enjoying-the-group-of/ has the "Also on: Twitter" link with the u-syndication microformats. Bridgy periodically parses my feed and keeps track of that. And when that tweet gets a reply, it uses that to send the webmention to.
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gRegorLove My Twitter copy of that tweet doesn't have to include the original link, that way.
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gRegorLove cdevroe++ :grinning:
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gRegorLove cdevroe: More information for what I was describing: https://brid.gy/about#link
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chrisaldrich cdevroe: In case you haven't found it, https://wordpress.org/plugins/syndication-links/ will give you a field in WP to store the URLs for where you've shared your content to twitter, et al and it will automatically mark them up with the u-syndication portion for bridgy to parse. If I remember correctly, that plugin will also auto-import the URLs for syndicated copies when you use the Bridgy Publish plugin so you don't need to do it manually.
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chrisaldrich Do you have the webmentions plugin set up?
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chrisaldrich Usually within less than a minute it'll propogate. If I remember, the bridgy publish plugin runs a chron-job about 10 seconds after you publish.
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chrisaldrich You might also want to put your URL into the box on your bridgy twitter page and hit "preview" to test/make sure your theme will display the proper output.
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chrisaldrich Which sub-plugins in the bigger WP Indieweb Plugin do you have up and running? https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/
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cdevroe This is what the JSON looks like: https://gist.github.com/cdevroe/43cad6dabe3092061d549b3b92da28ef
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chrisaldrich GWG will be on in a few hours and perhaps he can help you trouble shoot (and improve the documentation); it's been a while since I've used Bridgy Publish since I use Social Network Autoposter for most of my syndication process
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chrisaldrich I haven't looked at the Bridgy Publish plugin since GWG pushed a bunch of updates in the past week
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@HongPong #Drupal developers, premature to announce but http://drupal.org/project/linkback now has beginnings of D8 inter-site pingbacks type mgmt #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/824339493197139983)
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chrisaldrich cdevroe, in BP, do you have "Set Twitter from Post Excerpt" checked, and if so, is there content in that field?
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gRegorLove cdevroe: Even the about page? https://brid.gy/about (not necessarily disagreeing)
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hongpong cdevroe yeah i find bridgy confusing and wish it had animations to illustrate what it does
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cdevroe BTW, this is the really, really simple PHP code I use to tweet my posts now: https://gist.github.com/cdevroe/972f35b1edd13962a780d1b301c056c0 (nothing special at all)
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gRegorLove Bridgy issues can also be filed here: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy
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gRegorLove Wait, I thought you were trying to backfeed replies, not publish
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gRegorLove Oh. Ok
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gRegorLove I guess that might be easiest, but I don't think it will get replies back on your site.
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tantek cdevroe, I was *extremely* picky. hence I documented a lot of my thinking in excruciating detail here: https://indieweb.org/Twitter#POSSE_to_Twitter
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gRegorLove Not a waste of time. It's good information to know we need to improve the documentation
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gRegorLove Feel like we threw a wall of information at you, hope it wasn't overwhelming
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gRegorLove Or add Qs to https://indieweb.org/bridgy
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gRegorLove It does look like Bridgy sent some "like" webmentions to you based on https://brid.gy/twitter/cdevroe
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@calum_ryan HWC London back up and running fortnightly for 2017 #indieweb https://twitter.com/calum_ryan/status/824342039181586432/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/824342039181586432)
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chrisaldrich cdevroe: I just installed and tested Bridgy Publish myself: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/824341820809285632 and it seems to be working. I suspect that you may be missing some precursor piece (or setting) in the bigger Indieweb plugin. Is your site sending webmentions properly?
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gRegorLove cdevroe: I tried sending your post a webmention. I got an HTTP 409 response.
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gRegorLove Which plugin are you using for webmention?
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gRegorLove Hmm, actually, looks like I sent the webmention twice (second on update of my post). The first went through OK, response 200. Second one responed 409.
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gRegorLove Does it show up as a comment in the WP admin? Original: https://gregorlove.com/2017/01/testing-sending-a-webmention-ping/
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gRegorLove WP is heavy-handed marking those as spam. GWG probably knows more; I think there's a way to make it less likely to do that.
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gRegorLove cdevroe: Cool, well we know webmention receiving is working, so that's an important first step for Bridgy :)
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gRegorLove Loqi, when in the world is pfefferle?
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cdevroe @gRegorLove You can now see your WM here http://cdevroe.com/2017/01/25/4375/
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chrisaldrich cdevroe, somewhere (on the wiki) I think there's a snippet of code you can dump into function.php to automatically accept all incoming webmentions (primarily as they haven't been a heavy instance of spam thus far). Akismet has been working on improving the acceptance/rejection of them in their spam filter.
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gRegorLove What is Semantic Linkbacks?
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Loqi Semantic Linkbacks is a WordPress plugin that upgrades the presentation of linkback notifications (like Trackback, Pingback, or Webmention*) from the ugly default pingback presentation of "[…] random text excerpt […]" to a much more meaningful and user-friendly display as comments, reposts, likes, and favorites, detected using microformats2 markup from the source of the linkback https://indieweb.org/Semantic_Linkbacks
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miklb cdevroe I snagged this from GWG to unspam webmentions https://gist.github.com/miklb/5f06c91eaa494bab663917099ec786e5
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gRegorLove ^ That plugin should let your site show my actual comment instead of "mentioned on..."
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chrisaldrich Here's the details: * Temporary Code to accept all webmentions as suggested by snarfed at https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/issues/38 (for WordPress)
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chrisaldrich There's still some subtle work in WP webmentions for the comment to show up properly, and I think some of it depends on how they're sent. I occasionally have to change some metadata in my database directly to get webmentions to show as a native reply instead of the "mentioned on".
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gRegorLove cdevroe: http://cdevroe.com/2017/01/25/dreamhost-supports-micro-blog/ should have a webmention from Bridgy now (maybe in spam again)
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gRegorLove Based on https://brid.gy/twitter/cdevroe at least. Shows sent there.
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gRegorLove No, it shouldn't. Bridgy's just finding all the links and trying to send webmentions to them individually.
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gRegorLove If it doesn't show up, maybe the webmention plugin has logs
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gRegorLove At least in this instance, that appears to be the case, yeah.
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gRegorLove The Bridgy log seems to indicate the webmention was sent successfully. https://brid.gy/log?start_time=1485374353&key=aglzfmJyaWQtZ3lyNQsSCFJlc3BvbnNlIid0YWc6dHdpdHRlci5jb20sMjAxMzo4MjQzNDU2MzQzNTQzMTkzNjEM
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[keithjgrant] Have you checked for webmentions both with/without the trailing slash?
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gRegorLove cdevroe: You can try manually re-sending the webmention too. The source URL is https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/cdevroe/824282353279336452/824345634354319361
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gRegorLove I don't know the WP Webmention plugin. Sounds like it's having an error storing it (if it doesn't show up in spam or anywhere else), or maybe rejecting it for some reason.
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gRegorLove What time is it for aaronpk?
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gRegorLove Niiiice
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gRegorLove aaronpk++
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gRegorLove !tell GWG Does the WordPress Webmention plugin do any logging for received wm? cdevroe is having issues with Bridgy wm not showing up anywhere, even in spam.
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gRegorLove Semantic Linkbacks might be the plugin that does that part
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cdevroe This is what came in https://gist.github.com/cdevroe/d7247ae53f86a008d88f2f0ea94590c8
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gRegorLove Heh, yeah, it's confusing :/
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gRegorLove Hahaha
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tantek cdevroe does the /WordPress page not say exactly which plugins to start with and use?
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gRegorLove Well, in the long-term: probably. Semantic Linkbacks gives much better display of webmention comments. Like my comment would actually show up, not just a link to it.
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gRegorLove In the short term, I'd say no. It's only presentationl stuff; probably easier to make sure Bridgy and webmentions are playing nicely with the current plugins.
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gRegorLove cdevroe: Are you still making Barley?
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[keithjgrant] Static site peeps: what do you use to automate sending webmentions when you write a new post?
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KevinMarks I don't, Keith but I'm thinking about that for mention tech
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KevinMarks The challenge is knowing what updated
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voxpelli Possibly through this: https://github.com/aaronpk/Telegraph/issues/13
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[keithjgrant] Yeah, based on PuSH would be slick
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KevinMarks Websub would be a good way to do that, yes
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KevinMarks Though I don't generate websub for kevinmarks.com either
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Loqi Barley is a hosted, inline-editing CMS built by Colin Devroe https://indieweb.org/Barley
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snarfed fwiw i filed https://github.com/dshanske/bridgy-publish/issues/21 to capture one small part of your problems
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Getting Started With Bridgy" yet. Would you like to create it?
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snarfed totally understood! my high level impression is that looking at https://indieweb.org/generations , bridgy's product/UX may be ready for gen 1 and 2, but probably not 3 and 4 yet.
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cdevroe I connect my FB account to Bridgy and the site says “refresh in 1 minute”… I do that and it shows me a bunch of things it has found on my site with no instruction on what to do next. I would think the next thing woudl be “Connect your blog” and you’d either grab the appropriate WP plugins or start writing code if your blog is homegrown
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cdevroe @snarfed I commited a super, duper simple PR so that I have that workflow down. https://github.com/dshanske/bridgy-publish/pull/22 Will look into doing more work on this while it is fresh in my mind
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tantek cdevroe - I added a little formatting - can you review that I kept your intent? https://indieweb.org/WordPress_with_Bridgy
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tantek GWG, according to cdevroe, by installing everything our wiki says to install, "not a thing worked": https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-01-25/1485375370278000
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[cleverdevil] As a followup to our contribution to manton's Kickstarter campaign, we're planning on working on making a streamlined, pre-configured Indie microblog with WordPress at DreamHost.
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[cleverdevil] I tend to agree that a simplified, pre-packaged WordPress setup would go a long way to driving Indieweb adoption.
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[cleverdevil] aaronpk it remains to be seen, but the idea would be that people could create Indie microblog that is hosted at DreamHost and is "compatible" with Micro.blog and other Indie microblogs.
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[cleverdevil] aaronpk yup.
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[cleverdevil] there's that, and also you still have to properly configure your WordPress to behave.
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[cleverdevil] all of this is very complex, sadly.
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chrisaldrich cleverdevil: We've been having Homebrew Website Club meet ups for Indieweb on the East side of LA for a while, would you/DreamHost have space to host in-person meetups at your LA offices in the future?
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[cleverdevil] We've got a lot of WordPress talent inside of DreamHost, and I'd really love all of this to be simpler.
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[cleverdevil] I know that the general principals are also shared by Matt Mullenweg.
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[cleverdevil] chrisaldrich absolutely, we have an office in downtown LA and we have an office in Orange County (Brea).
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[cleverdevil] Also, I'll take any and all feedback on what we could do as a host to make all of this better.
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[cleverdevil] Our major focus at the moment is getting people excited about owning their own website (and entire digital identity).
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chrisaldrich cleverdevil, do you have a phone number we could chat at offline to set up some details?
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[cleverdevil] chrisaldrich yup, PM incoming.
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[cleverdevil] :wink:
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[cleverdevil] I used to connect here via IRC, but I'm on so many Slacks now that it just made sense to consolidate everything that way :stuck_out_tongue:
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[cleverdevil] chrisaldrich just hit me up via email at jonathan at dreamhost dot com.
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chrisaldrich cleverdevil, you can find my phone number/email etc in my h-card at http://boffosocko.com
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[cleverdevil] Howdy howdy :slightly_smiling_face:
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[cleverdevil] chrisaldrich I'll send you a quick email and we can coordinate a time to chat on the phone, I am in and out of meetings at the moment.
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ben_thatmustbeme cdevroe: yeah, aaronpkworking out quite a nice tie in between the two
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chrisaldrich sounds good cleverdevil...
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ben_thatmustbeme s/working/ worked/
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chrisaldrich thinks it's time to do another semi-annual updating of the WordPress wiki pages. Perhaps getting slimming down /getting_started_on_WordPress to the minimum set for basic functionality would be the best place to start and then push the rest into additional pages.
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[manton] cdevroe Replies are kind of the weakest area right now, more centralized. I'm trying to do a couple things at once (including the Safe Replies feature which matters a lot to me) so that part is evolving more slowly. I'm a fan of Webmention though and think that's the goal. First step to me is getting more people their own microblog so that the infrastructure for cross-site replies is even possible.
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chrisaldrich What is JetPack?
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Loqi Jetpack is a WordPress plugin that adds many site management tools including visitor stats, security services, performance improvements, and syndication options https://indieweb.org/Jetpack
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KevinMarks_ What are safe replies?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "safe replies" yet. Would you like to create it?
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@t Record eight cities host Homebrew Website Club meetups today! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-25-homebrew-website-club#Where Nürnberg, Brighton, ... http://tantek.com/2017/025/t2 (twitter.com/_/status/824389558259290114)
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@100daysindieweb Day 36: Parsing h-review with XRay #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/25/14/day-36-xray-hreview (twitter.com/_/status/824389844977618944)
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KevinMarks_ I'm asking to understand - I'd like to hear what [manton] means
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@dougmckown I just backed Indie Microblogging: owning your short-form writing on @Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manton/indie-microblogging-owning-your-short-form-writing?ref=thanks_tweet #indieweb @manton2 (twitter.com/_/status/824396955241644033)
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martymcguire[m] HWC Baltimore spinning up our quiet writing hour
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@davidmead @cdevroe @schnarfed I see you’ve found the #indieweb IRC ? Did that help? in reply to: > @schnarfed @davidmead I’… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/824400792119611393 (twitter.com/_/status/824400792119611393)
