#indieweb 2017-06-28

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@indietechrocks Indie Tech now also rocks on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/indietechrocks #indieweb #indietech (twitter.com/_/status/879863076643758080)
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M-podviaznikov At IndieWeb Summit I showed small demos from my personal CMS/wiki that I use for keeping track of books and for writing. It's still in development, but if anyone has time to provide me feedback - that would be great
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M-podviaznikov Do people here know about http://nownownow.com/? It looks like a very indieweby things to have
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KartikPrabhu what is now?
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Loqi A now page is a page that tells you what a person is focused on at this point in their life https://indieweb.org/Now
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M-podviaznikov oh, nice
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gRegorLove -dev chat logs seemed to have died at 4:41 PDT https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-06-27
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@webrocker I'm attending yes to Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg #tollweek @tollwerk #indieweb Come and hack some fun with us… https://www.webrocker.de/2017/06/28/homebrew-website-club-nuremberg/ (twitter.com/_/status/879963893417877504)
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@jkphl Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg tonight, w/ special guest @webrocker. Come join in! http://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/879965650571198466 (twitter.com/_/status/879965650571198466)
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@martijnvdven Inspired by #iws2017? Want to talk more #indieweb? If there is no Homebrew Website Club near you, join me online! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club#Virtual_European_Time (twitter.com/_/status/879980881569603584)
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Zegnat Thanks to sebsel’s linguistic training, there is now a pronunciation guide on my site. Have at it schmarty, I expect this to go in the next podcast when you read out pages I have edited ;)
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sebsel who is Zegnat?
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven is a long-time web tinkerer living in Sweden https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se/martijn/
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sebsel was expecting a homepage url
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sebsel nice!
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Zegnat sebsel++ thanks for the help :D
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schmarty Haha, thanks, Zegnat!
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Loqi haha
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schmarty starts learning how to read pronunciation guides
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petermolnar heads up for ubuntu/debian server admins: https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3341-1/
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cweiske thanks, lennard
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cweiske s/lennard/leonard/
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cweiske s/leonard/lennart/
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petermolnar I've tried 17.04 on a laptop and couldn't get network running; I traced it to systemd-resolved, turned it off, and voliá, things started working... grr...
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[eddie] My first self-hosted gif… and it’s hilarious ? https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/06/27/12/photo/
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] ? https://eddiehinkle.com/images/entry-images/2017-06-28_01.gif
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sknebel petermolnar: curious why ubuntu switched to resolved so quickly, AFAIK it was fairly obvious that it wasn't all that stable yet
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[eddie] It was super manual to upload though. I definitely need to get the photo sharing feature working in Indigenous
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petermolnar not that dnsmasq was that good when it was first deployed
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[miklb] good morning!
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Loqi morning!
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Zegnat 60 minutes until Virtual Homebrew Website Club on https://talky.io/hwc
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-06-28 5:30pm CEST (#6038)
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat++
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[eddie] morning, miklb!
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sebsel lol, talky has a game when you're the only one in the room
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sebsel it's quite hard and addictive
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Zegnat Yes, I played that for a bit
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petermolnar hm, I remembered an hour later :/
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[miklb] monrin’ eddie
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[miklb] s/monrin’/mornin’/
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[miklb] needs more coffee
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[eddie] ? Don’t we all?
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Zegnat petermolnar you thought HWC starts an hour later?
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petermolnar yes
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petermolnar because I'll be at work till ~17:00 BST
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Zegnat I am sticking to the standard 18:30-19:30 with an optional hour in front
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Zegnat Adjusted to CEST
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Zegnat First one we did was actually on the same schedule as today https://indieweb.org/events/2017-05-31-homebrew-website-club#European_time_.28new.21.29
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petermolnar oh, right
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petermolnar keep forgetting about the extra hour
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petermolnar in case, yay
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Zegnat petermolnar, I am just updating the listing on the wiki. Do you still want to be shown as organiser?
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Zegnat Same goes for you, Jeena, do you still want to be listed as organiser for Virtual HWC?
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petermolnar I think you can get me off, maybe I can revisit that in the future
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Zegnat Of course. Taking you off. Just trying to do some cleaning on my own events before I ask others to clean theirs ;)
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dougbeal o/
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[barryf] Zegnat: I can’t make the London HWC tonight so will be joining the Virtual version a little later.
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Loqi [barryf]: calumryan left you a message 6 days, 6 hours ago: could you confirm venue details for HWC London next week?
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Zegnat You are welcome to, [barryf]!
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dougbeal No one in the talky room yet?
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sebsel 4 more minutes dougbeal!
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Zegnat sebsel come join us
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sebsel on my way!
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dougbeal Yay! Made this one
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Loqi ?
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Loqi Virtual Homebrew Website Club on https://talky.io/hwc
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Loqi Countdown set by Zegnat on 2017-06-28 at 4:30pm CEST
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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Zegnat Good morning tantek
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dougbeal hi tantek
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tantek It's HWC day!
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Zegnat Definitely is, tantek!
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sknebel Zegnat: woah, you appeared twice in talky
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sknebel and apparently the wifi here is horrible :/
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sknebel Zegnat: can you hear me?
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Zegnat sknebel. No. Unless the robot sounds are oyu
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sknebel I hear someone with pot and pans, but thatS not me :P
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dougbeal Oh, can you hear the keyboard?
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Zegnat And I keep losing lukasros again, like 2 weeks ago.
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sknebel dougbeal: probably. very loudly
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Zegnat I am going to switch browsers. Entertain yourselves without me for a bit ;)
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[miklb] sounds like talky isn’t ready for prime time
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lukasros @Zegnat: Hm this is weird; somehow our connections don't seem to get along well with each other.
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Zegnat [miklb] we are open to suggestions on other platforms: https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC#Platforms
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[miklb] let me rephrase that, sounds like group video chat on the internet is ready for prime time ?
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[miklb] s/is/isn’t
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sknebel I can hear someone asking if they can be heard, but apparnetly my answer doesnt go through
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dougbeal Were you stil hearing keyboard noises?
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sknebel not much
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Zegnat goes to try the iOS app for his iPad and see if that helps
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Zegnat We might have to switch to Mumble half way through at this rate, sknebel ;)
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sknebel I see sebsel
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sknebel but he apparently can't hear me either. something is wonky with this headset
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sknebel but I can't use the laptop mike here
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sebsel I see or hear nobody
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Zegnat puts up technical difficulties sign
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@anomalily The video of my keynote from #indieweb summit is out “A Brief History of my Website” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGX8iBWrTE&index=4&list=PLk3TtIJ31hqrLIPqz55TczawWu-30cnXM (twitter.com/_/status/880088905944412162)
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Zegnat I think talky might be having the technical difficulties :o I can’t even join the room with the iOS app
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sebsel I already have a group photo https://seblog.nl/temp/media-endpoint/03f027-groupphoto.jpg
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sknebel heh
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sebsel what are alternatives?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "alternatives" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dougbeal I can turn on video :)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "A post on Twitter byLillian Karabaic The video of my keynote from #indieweb summit is out “A Brief History of my Website” https://t.co/5TDgGXCAat— Lillian Karabaic (@anomalily) June 28, 2017 Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to make even more accessible to more people." by Michael Bishop on 2017-06-28 https://miklb.com/2008-2/
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@miklb Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to… https://miklb.com/2008-2/ https://twitter.com/anomalily/status/880088905944412162 (twitter.com/_/status/880089951177723904)
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sknebel apparently I still can'T be heard
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[miklb] ugh. something wonky in my mf2
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sebsel no, sknebel, I can't hear you :(
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sknebel might be that the connection here is too shitty
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Zegnat We can test this: https://appear.in/hwc
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Zegnat virtual HWC has switched to https://appear.in/hwc
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sknebel now I suddenly can'T connect to appear.in at all
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sknebel "loading camera" and then stops
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Zegnat sknebel. perfect. I think these P2P WebRTC conferences are just not ready for prime time :/
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sknebel now I can hear and see you guys (at leasth eard sebsel talking), but apparently still cant reach you
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sknebel hear Zegnat fine
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sebsel I believe I am the only one talking :D
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sebsel we're kind of figuring things out still
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sknebel ok, apparently I can only listen in and watch you guys
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Zegnat Considering moving to Mumble for the next Virtual HWC. No cams, but hopefully also none of the connection problems of WebRTC.
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dougbeal What is microsub
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Loqi Microsub is an early draft of a spec that provides a standardized way for clients to consume and interact with feeds collected by a server https://indieweb.org/microsub
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tantek Zegnat what do you think of the need (or not) for screensharing, e.g. for demos etc. for HWC Virtual?
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[miklb] live in the future?
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[miklb] Oh, I misread the question, sorry
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petermolnar where is virtual hwc running now then?
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sebsel https://appear.in/hwc
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sebsel :)
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Zegnat tantek, yeah, screensharing would be the real miss. sebsel already used screensharing for a demo today.
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tantek demos++
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Zegnat But if you know a good open video-conference system that does not rely 100% on P2P-WebRTC we are all ears, tantek ;)
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tantek Zegnat have issues with Talky been documented?
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tantek what is Talky
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Loqi Talky is a video chat and screen sharing web service from andyet https://indieweb.org/talky
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Zegnat What is Virtual HWC?
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Loqi Virtual HWC is an online Homebrew Website Club for IndieWebbers who either can’t make a regular meeting or don’t yet have critical mass to host one in their area https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC
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Zegnat The only place for now where we documented, I think
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@WardCunningham Federated wiki returned to IndieWeb Summit for sixth birthday. We'll chat about the experience in 15 min. https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/epn5oao4qvhwdcvbwturlqyttmu (twitter.com/_/status/880105707500064769)
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tantek ward++
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Loqi [superfeedr] "An aside: I’ve stopped displaying brid.gy webmentions publicly on my site at http://werd.io. Facebook friends were complaining. #indieweb" by Douglas Beal on 2017-06-28 https://dougbeal.com/2017/06/28/an-aside-ive-stopped-displaying-brid-gy-webmentions-publicly-on-my-site-at-httpwerd-io-facebook-friends-were-complaining-indieweb/
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snarfed http://indieweb.org/backfeed#Discussion
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[miklb] dougbeal that post doesn’t seem to link to the original post by Ben, fyi.
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dougbeal [miklb]: Yeah, there is nothing in the link
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dougbeal [miklb]: Need to tweak the Press this javascript, maybe.
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[miklb] ah
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dougbeal [miklb]: Not sure I want a title on it...
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[miklb] yeah, When I use post-kinds to import a tweet and it sets the title to “A post by X” so I manually remove it. Haven’t taken the time to figure out how to prevent that.
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aaronpk nice https://adactio.com/notes/12467
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] Catching up on videos from the Indie Web Summit at Homebrew Website Club Brighton. Catching up on videos from the Indie Web Summit at Homebrew Website Club Brighton. https://adactio.com/images/uploaded/12467/large.jpg
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BigShip [cleverdevil] Hey, just a heads up but a link on the bottom of your Nextcloud login page goes to owncloud.cleverdevil.io instead of cloud.cleverdevil.io
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BigShip [cleverdevil] I noticed when I was admiring your theme :)
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@jkphl Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg w/ special guest @webrocker. Yeah! #indieweb https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/880118212217774080/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/880118212217774080)
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[cleverdevil] @BigShip oh thanks!
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[cleverdevil] Fixed ?
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[cleverdevil] Okay, feature request in Quill for aaronpk
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[cleverdevil] I'd like a repost with comment for twitter URLs.
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[cleverdevil] Which will also do the RT with comment on Twitter.
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aaronpk what is quote tweet?
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Loqi A quote tweet (also known as a "retweet with comment") is a reply on Twitter to an original tweet that displays the entirety of the original in a reply-context below the reply text https://indieweb.org/quote_tweet
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sebsel what is retweet with comment?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "retweet with comment" yet. Would you like to create it?
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schmarty [cleverdevil]: i have been doing these with quill as new notes with the quoted tweet as a URL by itself
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schmarty i think bridgy publish does the right thing?
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schmarty goes to verify this
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sebsel retweet with comment is quote_tweet
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk quill doesn't post tweets to twitter, so all you really need to do is include the link to the tweet in the text field
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[cleverdevil] Ah, cool.
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snarfed bridgy publish quote tweet support: https://brid.gy/about#quote-tweet
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snarfed (tldr: h-cite u-quotation-of)
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[miklb] I do quote tweets with bridgy & WP https://miklb.com/2008-2/
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Loqi [Michael Bishop] Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to make even more accessible to more people.
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[cleverdevil] Like this? http://share.cleverdevil.io/2ic2r8H7gx.png
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sketchess good morning / evening
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aaronpk ah! I see the quill feature request now
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[cleverdevil] ?
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aaronpk bridgy publish expects the h-cite u-quotation-of markup in order to create the retweet with comment
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aaronpk so quill would need to send that in the micropub request, and also teh micropub endpoint would need to recognize the 'quotation-of' property and then the site would need to render it the way bridgy expects
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snarfed yup
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snarfed in general, bridgy publish deliberately expects specific markup like this for specific silo features like quote tweets, instead of trying to be clever. background: https://snarfed.org/2015-11-29_keep-bridgy-publish-dumb
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Keep Bridgy Publish dumb
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schmarty this worked for me:
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schmarty https://martymcgui.re/2017/06/28/135024/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] This is quite an interesting re-framing of accountability issues in tech companies.https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/880113154906312704
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schmarty a sentence and a link to a tweet
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schmarty rendered as an h-cite
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schmarty bridgy publish catches that it is a quote tweet: https://media.martymcgui.re/81/46/09/80/54218afed8f6f7276cf58386243c58e1952ab69964b33b3a20166eb1.png
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schmarty ... uh, but then tweeted something different. ;_;
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schmarty (but it also... worked?)
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snarfed ruh roh, the preview and publish were different?
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schmarty i'm confused about the twitter result but not unhappy with it: https://twitter.com/schmarty/status/880122131127967749
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@schmarty This is quite an interesting re-framing of accountability issues in tech companies.https… http://mmg.re/4p5HqQ QT [@_danilo] I've written to you before on how startup founders and execs act as mine foremen for their venture capital sponsors https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/687384992893288449 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDbKCKqVYAElAw1.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/880122131127967749)
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schmarty i think the lack of a space between "companies." and the URL made it confused.
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@webrocker @_alexanderneng @jkphl @egoexpress @iwontsignuphere @sfeldeu hi, https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club , meinstens in den Räumen… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880122870206275585 (twitter.com/_/status/880122870206275585)
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snarfed looks like the preview showed the same thing as what got tweeted. i see that missing space in the preview too.
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snarfed it's also missing in your original post :P
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schmarty ah, yeah, i didn't scroll far enough down when looking at the preview.
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snarfed but yeah bridgy publish could definitely be smarter and catch it
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schmarty looks like markdown processing swallowed the newline.
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schmarty and replaced it with "" ?‍♀️
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snarfed whee
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schmarty anyway, aside from my trip-up and the idiosyncrasies of my setup, that is kind of an example of how to make Quill + Bridgy Publish post a quote tweet. :p
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[cleverdevil] I'm lazy and just want a "do it for me" button.
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[cleverdevil] ?
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sketchess I have a question. :) Does it always give a youtube live stream and / or uploaded videos of the gatherings?
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@_alexanderneng @jkphl @webrocker @egoexpress @iwontsignuphere @sfeldeu @tollwerk @IndieWebCampDE Wird erledigt, danke für die Info… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880126761710870528 (twitter.com/_/status/880126761710870528)
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sketchess greetings gRegorLove :)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "❤️ gRegorLove’s photo" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-06-28 http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/28/gregorloves-photo/
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gRegorLove Hi sketchess. Good morning, indieweb.
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@egoexpress @_alexanderneng @jkphl @webrocker @iwontsignuphere @sfeldeu @tollwerk @IndieWebCampDE Mea culpa! :) (twitter.com/_/status/880128892052307968)
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snarfed hey vouch contributors (aaronpk tantek gRegorLove ben_thatmustbeme) have any of you thought about how it should interpret and handle u-url vs webmention source url?
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snarfed i'm thinking about if/how bridgy would support, it as a sender
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gRegorLove Hm, not sure I follow
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snarfed bridgy wms have source=https://brid.gy/... but e.g. u-url https://twitter.com/...
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gRegorLove Aha
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sketchess Do you know, if there is always live stream and video upload of the gatherings, gRegorLove?
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snarfed sketchess: often yes but no guarantee
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snarfed in spirit, vouch would maybe prefer u-url, but that may open the door to spoofing? not sure
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sketchess I would prefer not to. XD
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gRegorLove sketchess: The annual summit in Portland has had video the last 4 years, as far as I remember. Should all be linked on the wiki. The German IWCs are good about video, too. Others I'm not sure about offhand.
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sketchess Wow.
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gRegorLove sketchess: Let me know if you're looking for any particular video. Past years may not be linked up as clearly.
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed: i go based on the webmention url only, so i "trust" brid.gy
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sebsel sketchess HWCs are as far as I know always without video (except for the Virtual ones), so you can go there safely if you don't want to be videotaped.
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sebsel just dug when the group photo is taken ;)
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snarfed ben_thatmustbeme: yeah, in practice many people will whitelist. i'm still interested in if/how bridgy would actually support vouch, though
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gRegorLove snarfed: Refreshing my memory about my code, heh. Will let you know.
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, its a very good question
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sketchess Thank you sebel. Otherwise it would be very worrying.
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ben_thatmustbeme you i'm assuming you mean for sending vouched webmentions
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ben_thatmustbeme s/you i'm/i'm/
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snarfed yes
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gRegorLove snarfed: The concern is someone could use a bridgy URL as a vouch?
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ben_thatmustbeme so, the biggest difficulty is getting the vouch links, its a rough task for the site itself to do, for a 3rd party i could see that being neigh impossible
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snarfed right
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sketchess And no, I am not looking for something, gRegorLove. I only wanna to get past. ;)
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gRegorLove sketchess: What do you mean by "get past"?
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sketchess invisible
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sketchess a I missed letters, I see
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gRegorLove Oh, if you have privacy concerns at an event, let an organizer know. You definitely don't have to be in any photos or video you don't want to be.
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed, yeah, i think you are correct, it would allow spoofing
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ben_thatmustbeme thinking it over
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Zegnat I like how gRegorLove tried to use the indieweb chatlogs as a vouch
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gRegorLove Hah, that's probably a mistake.
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sketchess Yeah that would be very important. And good to know.
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gRegorLove I should re-visit my Vouch implementation, update the URLs it ignores.
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Zegnat sketchess, if you are thinking of going to a Berlin Homebrew Website Club, I guarantee they are OK with keeping you out of any photos. sknebel can take care of that
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snarfed gRegorLove ben_thatmustbeme: yeah you can point u-url to any page that has the link path target => vouch => u-url
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Loqi yea!
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sketchess greetings Zegnat and thanks
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed, i don't allow rel=nofollow links to work
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Zegnat My vouch endpoint will ignore links that have rel="nofollow". Most comment forms on traditional websites add that to user posted links, so you can’t post your link to a trusted website and then trick my endpoint
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Zegnat ... as ben_thatmustbeme was saying
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ben_thatmustbeme and then any comments on posts are rel=nofollow
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snarfed nofollow seems unrelated. this is about checking a link path from target => vouch => source vs target => vouch => u-url
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ben_thatmustbeme that way, just getting a comment onto my site, doesn't mean i count as a vouch for you
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sketchess I am relieved now. :) Would really like to come in November.
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ben_thatmustbeme its target-(follow)>vouch -(follow)> u-url
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ben_thatmustbeme otherwise someone can quickly propogate through vouches
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Zegnat IndieWeb Camp in November could be more tricky, sketchess. Best talk to one of the organisers there: Joschi or Marc.
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ben_thatmustbeme by finding any 1 person not following vouch, once you have a comment there, use that as a vouch to post on anyone who has commented on any post on that site, repeat
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sketchess Oh yeah, it was something different, right?
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snarfed yes, i understand the value of nofollow. my question is about source vs u-url, which seems unrelated :P
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Zegnat How does vouch relate to a u-url property? Not sure I am following, snarfed
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ben_thatmustbeme oh, you mean that part, lets move to -dev
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Zegnat follows to dev
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snarfed sure
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ben_thatmustbeme crossed convos is getting messy
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Zegnat sketchess, yes. IndieWeb Camp are generally bigger events
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Zegnat Homebrew Website Club is a small fortnightly (every 2 weeks) gathering of IndieWeb community people
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The duplication of Instagram posts was a bug that got fixed. Mostly it's got a bunch more post kinds (you can choose which in the" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-06-28 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/the-duplication-of-instagram-posts-was-a-bug-that-got
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sketchess the Homebrew Website Club was the Wednesday session, not often weekend
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Zegnat The Homebrew Website Club in Berlin is pretty small and has some really clever people there.
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sketchess Yeah.
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Zegnat Yes, HWC is Wednesday evening.
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sketchess Does anyone has timings?
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snarfed when is next-hwc
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2017-06-28 at Starbucks Sony-Center https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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tantek what is events
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Events
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sketchess *lol* today
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sketchess What a pitty. My free days are next week.
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sketchess It remains strange to me that it takes place in the middle of the week.
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sketchess would have to drive 2 hours *lol*
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Zegnat sknebel takes the train in from somewhere outside of Berlin too.
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Zegnat I think it is on a weekday because you can’t expect people to sacrifice one of their weekend days every two weeks ;)
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sketchess Oh I just calculated, if I still would make it in time to see anything of it. ;) .... Oh, well after a 14 hours day I am more than tired.
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sketchess I sleep in the train every time.
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sketchess day starts 4.45 am
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sketchess Hmmm, friday would be an option. ;) Short day and weekend on the horizon.
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sketchess That's life I guess, we can't have everything.
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Zegnat There are the virtual ones, we just ended hours, you can call into one of those without leaving your house
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sketchess Thihihi, I guess I will not disappear soon.
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sketchess The funny thing is I work in Berlin. So we will see how things will work out.
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Zegnat I hope to visit Berlin in november. I have never been there. Don’t think we ever got to that part of Germany at all
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sketchess That would be cool.
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sketchess And thanks again vor yesterday. Currently I am working on my skeleton. :)
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sketchess good morning / evening Kartik
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sketchess happy coding everyone
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tantek hey sketechess - if you're interested in more of the coding, check out #indieweb-dev and feel free to ask coding questions there!
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KartikPrabhu hello sketchess
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sketchess has finished the todays goal and cawls into bed now
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KartikPrabhu night
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sketchess you too :)
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sketchess no thanks tantek
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sketchess is fine and baba
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sknebel HWC Berlin ends
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sknebel Someone mentioned me and HWC?
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sebsel sknebel sketchess would like to attend HWC Berlin once but does not want to be on photo or video
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sknebel sebsel: OK, thx. Won't be a problem
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snarfed interesting: https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/2017/06/27/API-Change-Log-Modifying-Link-Previews/
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Zegnat Wasn't that already a thing, snarfed? I thought I couldn't edit link descriptions anymore when I posted a link through Facebook's UI.
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snarfed Zegnat: yup
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sknebel But they still had it in the API?
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snarfed i guess?
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Zegnat shrugs at Facebook inconsistencies
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Zegnat Well. Of toned for me. Have a good continued HWC day everyone!
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Zegnat s/toned/to bed/
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sknebel Zegnat: good night!
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[eddie] Zegnat: I think they removed it from the UI to avoid easy scamming but left in the API for “official publishers” except scammers can be official publishers too
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[eddie] lol
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@t I work @Mozilla on @CSSWG & https://wiki.mozilla.org/CSS #OpenWeb https://wiki.mozilla.org/Standards @W3CAB @SocialWebWG @IndieWebCamp (ttk.me t4p52) (twitter.com/_/status/880174774495916034)
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[miklb] I wish there was a way to merge issues in GitHub ?
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[cleverdevil] Hehe... gee I wonder why?
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[miklb] I’m tempted to close one because at this point, the discussion has completely overlapped.
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[miklb] overlapped and morphed
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GWG [miklb]: I'm sorry
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[miklb] Not anyone’s fault GWG. It’s a really good healthy conversation that needs to happen.
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GWG [miklb]: I know.
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@DreamHost If you live in #PDX and want to connect with your local #WordPress community, check out @indiewebcamp! https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/880183554805780480)
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@priya_somani_ If you live in #PDX and want to connect with your local #WordPress community, check out indiewebcamp! https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/880184408212467712)
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@calum_ryan Homebrew Website Club London Year 1 and #indieweb matters https://calumryan.com/blog/homebrew-website-club-london-year-1/ (https://calumryan.com/note/809) (twitter.com/_/status/880188799782854656)
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[kiai] Looking forward to the meetup!
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[kiai] <-- spends too much time alone.
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snarfed added json feed support to granary (input and output). https://granary-demo.appspot.com/?input=jsonfeed
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snarfed maybe jf2 next
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[cleverdevil] snarfed++ nice!
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[cleverdevil] FWIW, the jsonfeed implementation I added to Known has an extension that supports some JF2-ish things: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/51
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Loqi [cleverdevil] #51 Representing alternate post types
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snarfed [cleverdevil]++
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schmarty HWC Baltimore quiet writing hour is started
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schmarty we are playing the IWS keynotes in the background.
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neilpdx hi kiai
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neilpdx what city are you from [kiai]
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gRegorLove Is there a North America TZ Virtual HWC tonight?
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gRegorLove I think that was [chrisaldrich] heading that up. He's probably busy with new house stuff.
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[chrisaldrich] That and GWG is out of the country... ;)
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Your point?
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GWG Pretend I'm on NYC time.
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GWG Hotel has wifi, and I have a microphone
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GWG kraftbj: Hello
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tantek The latest IndieWebCamp season has been released! IndieWebSummit 2017 - an exciting series with several parallel storylines in parts, serialized for your convenience into 24 episodes! Links (with durations) here https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Saturday
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tantek now to do the math on how many hours of actual footage has been posted
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tantek we may have hit a new record
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aaronpk 14 hours IIRC
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snarfed aaronpk++ for professional grade video capturing and editing
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[cleverdevil] weapons grade.
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[cleverdevil] CARRIER GRADE.
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tantek That's like an entire TV season
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tantek aaronpk did we not record the main room hack day intro?
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tantek oops going to meta