#indieweb 2017-06-28

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@webrocker
I'm attending yes to Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg #tollweek @tollwerk #indieweb Come and hack some fun with us… https://www.webrocker.de/2017/06/28/homebrew-website-club-nuremberg/
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@martijnvdven
Inspired by #iws2017? Want to talk more #indieweb? If there is no Homebrew Website Club near you, join me online! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club#Virtual_European_Time
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Zegnat
Thanks to sebsel’s linguistic training, there is now a pronunciation guide on my site. Have at it schmarty, I expect this to go in the next podcast when you read out pages I have edited ;)
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sebsel
who is Zegnat?
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Loqi
Martijn van der Ven is a long-time web tinkerer living in Sweden https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se/martijn/
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sebsel
was expecting a homepage url
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sebsel
nice!
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Zegnat
sebsel++ thanks for the help :D
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Loqi
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schmarty
Haha, thanks, Zegnat!
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Loqi
haha
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schmarty
starts learning how to read pronunciation guides
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petermolnar
heads up for ubuntu/debian server admins: https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3341-1/
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cweiske
thanks, lennard
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cweiske
s/lennard/leonard/
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cweiske
s/leonard/lennart/
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petermolnar
I've tried 17.04 on a laptop and couldn't get network running; I traced it to systemd-resolved, turned it off, and voliá, things started working... grr...
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[eddie]
My first self-hosted gif… and it’s hilarious 😄 https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/06/27/12/photo/
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sknebel
petermolnar: curious why ubuntu switched to resolved so quickly, AFAIK it was fairly obvious that it wasn't all that stable yet
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[eddie]
It was super manual to upload though. I definitely need to get the photo sharing feature working in Indigenous
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petermolnar
not that dnsmasq was that good when it was first deployed
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[miklb]
good morning!
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Loqi
morning!
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Zegnat
60 minutes until Virtual Homebrew Website Club on https://talky.io/hwc
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 2017-06-28 5:30pm CEST (#6038)
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Loqi
zegnat has 64 karma in this channel (102 overall)
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[eddie]
morning, miklb!
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sebsel
lol, talky has a game when you're the only one in the room
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sebsel
it's quite hard and addictive
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Zegnat
Yes, I played that for a bit
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petermolnar
hm, I remembered an hour later :/
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[miklb]
monrin’ eddie
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[miklb]
s/monrin’/mornin’/
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[miklb]
needs more coffee
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[eddie]
😆 Don’t we all?
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Zegnat
petermolnar you thought HWC starts an hour later?
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petermolnar
because I'll be at work till ~17:00 BST
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Zegnat
I am sticking to the standard 18:30-19:30 with an optional hour in front
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Zegnat
Adjusted to CEST
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petermolnar
oh, right
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petermolnar
keep forgetting about the extra hour
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petermolnar
in case, yay
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Zegnat
petermolnar, I am just updating the listing on the wiki. Do you still want to be shown as organiser?
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Zegnat
Same goes for you, Jeena, do you still want to be listed as organiser for Virtual HWC?
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petermolnar
I think you can get me off, maybe I can revisit that in the future
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Zegnat
Of course. Taking you off. Just trying to do some cleaning on my own events before I ask others to clean theirs ;)
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[barryf]
Zegnat: I can’t make the London HWC tonight so will be joining the Virtual version a little later.
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Loqi
[barryf]: calumryan left you a message 6 days, 6 hours ago: could you confirm venue details for HWC London next week?
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Zegnat
You are welcome to, [barryf]!
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dougbeal
No one in the talky room yet?
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sebsel
4 more minutes dougbeal!
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Zegnat
sebsel come join us
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sebsel
on my way!
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dougbeal
Yay! Made this one
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Loqi
😊
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Loqi
Virtual Homebrew Website Club on https://talky.io/hwc
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Loqi
Countdown set by Zegnat on 2017-06-28 at 4:30pm CEST
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tantek
good morning #indieweb!
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Zegnat
Good morning tantek
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dougbeal
hi tantek
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tantek
It's HWC day!
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Zegnat
Definitely is, tantek!
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sknebel
Zegnat: woah, you appeared twice in talky
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sknebel
and apparently the wifi here is horrible :/
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sknebel
Zegnat: can you hear me?
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Zegnat
sknebel. No. Unless the robot sounds are oyu
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sknebel
I hear someone with pot and pans, but thatS not me :P
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dougbeal
Oh, can you hear the keyboard?
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Zegnat
And I keep losing lukasros again, like 2 weeks ago.
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sknebel
dougbeal: probably. very loudly
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Zegnat
I am going to switch browsers. Entertain yourselves without me for a bit ;)
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[miklb]
sounds like talky isn’t ready for prime time
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lukasros
@Zegnat: Hm this is weird; somehow our connections don't seem to get along well with each other.
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Zegnat
[miklb] we are open to suggestions on other platforms: https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC#Platforms
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[miklb]
let me rephrase that, sounds like group video chat on the internet is ready for prime time 😉
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[miklb]
s/is/isn’t
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sknebel
I can hear someone asking if they can be heard, but apparnetly my answer doesnt go through
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dougbeal
Were you stil hearing keyboard noises?
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sknebel
not much
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Zegnat
goes to try the iOS app for his iPad and see if that helps
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Zegnat
We might have to switch to Mumble half way through at this rate, sknebel ;)
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sknebel
I see sebsel
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sknebel
but he apparently can't hear me either. something is wonky with this headset
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sknebel
but I can't use the laptop mike here
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sebsel
I see or hear nobody
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Zegnat
puts up technical difficulties sign
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@anomalily
The video of my keynote from #indieweb summit is out “A Brief History of my Website” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGX8iBWrTE&index=4&list=PLk3TtIJ31hqrLIPqz55TczawWu-30cnXM
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tantek
anomalil++
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Loqi
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tantek
anomalily++
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Loqi
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Zegnat
I think talky might be having the technical difficulties :o I can’t even join the room with the iOS app
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sebsel
what are alternatives?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "alternatives" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10nJ
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dougbeal
I can turn on video :)
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "A post on Twitter byLillian Karabaic The video of my keynote from #indieweb summit is out “A Brief History of my Website” https://t.co/5TDgGXCAat— Lillian Karabaic (@anomalily) June 28, 2017 Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to make even more accessible to more people." by Michael Bishop on 2017-06-28 https://miklb.com/2008-2/
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@miklb
Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to… https://miklb.com/2008-2/ https://twitter.com/anomalily/status/880088905944412162
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sknebel
apparently I still can'T be heard
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[miklb]
ugh. something wonky in my mf2
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sebsel
no, sknebel, I can't hear you :(
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sknebel
might be that the connection here is too shitty
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Zegnat
virtual HWC has switched to https://appear.in/hwc
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sknebel
now I suddenly can'T connect to appear.in at all
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sknebel
"loading camera" and then stops
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Zegnat
sknebel. perfect. I think these P2P WebRTC conferences are just not ready for prime time :/
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sknebel
now I can hear and see you guys (at leasth eard sebsel talking), but apparently still cant reach you
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sknebel
hear Zegnat fine
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sebsel
I believe I am the only one talking :D
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sebsel
we're kind of figuring things out still
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sknebel
ok, apparently I can only listen in and watch you guys
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Zegnat
Considering moving to Mumble for the next Virtual HWC. No cams, but hopefully also none of the connection problems of WebRTC.
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dougbeal
What is microsub
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Loqi
Microsub is an early draft of a spec that provides a standardized way for clients to consume and interact with feeds collected by a server https://indieweb.org/microsub
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tantek
Zegnat what do you think of the need (or not) for screensharing, e.g. for demos etc. for HWC Virtual?
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[miklb]
live in the future?
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[miklb]
Oh, I misread the question, sorry
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petermolnar
where is virtual hwc running now then?
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Zegnat
tantek, yeah, screensharing would be the real miss. sebsel already used screensharing for a demo today.
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tantek
demos++
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Loqi
demos has 1 karma
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Zegnat
But if you know a good open video-conference system that does not rely 100% on P2P-WebRTC we are all ears, tantek ;)
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tantek
Zegnat have issues with Talky been documented?
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tantek
what is Talky
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Loqi
Talky is a video chat and screen sharing web service from andyet https://indieweb.org/talky
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Zegnat
What is Virtual HWC?
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Loqi
Virtual HWC is an online Homebrew Website Club for IndieWebbers who either can’t make a regular meeting or don’t yet have critical mass to host one in their area https://indieweb.org/Virtual_HWC
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Zegnat
The only place for now where we documented, I think
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@WardCunningham
Federated wiki returned to IndieWeb Summit for sixth birthday. We'll chat about the experience in 15 min. https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/epn5oao4qvhwdcvbwturlqyttmu
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tantek
ward++
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Loqi
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "An aside: I’ve stopped displaying brid.gy webmentions publicly on my site at http://werd.io. Facebook friends were complaining. #indieweb" by Douglas Beal on 2017-06-28 https://dougbeal.com/2017/06/28/an-aside-ive-stopped-displaying-brid-gy-webmentions-publicly-on-my-site-at-httpwerd-io-facebook-friends-were-complaining-indieweb/
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[miklb]
dougbeal that post doesn’t seem to link to the original post by Ben, fyi.
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dougbeal
[miklb]: Yeah, there is nothing in the link
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dougbeal
[miklb]: Need to tweak the Press this javascript, maybe.
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dougbeal
[miklb]: Not sure I want a title on it...
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[miklb]
yeah, When I use post-kinds to import a tweet and it sets the title to “A post by X” so I manually remove it. Haven’t taken the time to figure out how to prevent that.
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Loqi
[Jeremy Keith] Catching up on videos from the Indie Web Summit at Homebrew Website Club Brighton. Catching up on videos from the Indie Web Summit at Homebrew Website Club Brighton. https://adactio.com/images/uploaded/12467/large.jpg
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BigShip
[cleverdevil] Hey, just a heads up but a link on the bottom of your Nextcloud login page goes to owncloud.cleverdevil.io instead of cloud.cleverdevil.io
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BigShip
[cleverdevil] I noticed when I was admiring your theme :)
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@jkphl
Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg w/ special guest @webrocker. Yeah! #indieweb https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/880118212217774080/photo/1
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[cleverdevil]
Fixed 🙂
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[cleverdevil]
Okay, feature request in Quill for aaronpk
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[cleverdevil]
I'd like a repost with comment for twitter URLs.
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[cleverdevil]
Which will also do the RT with comment on Twitter.
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aaronpk
what is quote tweet?
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Loqi
A quote tweet (also known as a "retweet with comment") is a reply on Twitter to an original tweet that displays the entirety of the original in a reply-context below the reply text https://indieweb.org/quote_tweet
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sebsel
what is retweet with comment?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "retweet with comment" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10nQ
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schmarty
[cleverdevil]: i have been doing these with quill as new notes with the quoted tweet as a URL by itself
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schmarty
i think bridgy publish does the right thing?
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schmarty
goes to verify this
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sebsel
retweet with comment is quote_tweet
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aaronpk
quill doesn't post tweets to twitter, so all you really need to do is include the link to the tweet in the text field
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snarfed
bridgy publish quote tweet support: https://brid.gy/about#quote-tweet
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snarfed
(tldr: h-cite u-quotation-of)
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[miklb]
I do quote tweets with bridgy & WP https://miklb.com/2008-2/
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Loqi
[Michael Bishop] Watch this for the best explanation of what IndieWeb is, can be and what I’m helping to make even more accessible to more people.
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sketchess
good morning / evening
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aaronpk
ah! I see the quill feature request now
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aaronpk
bridgy publish expects the h-cite u-quotation-of markup in order to create the retweet with comment
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aaronpk
so quill would need to send that in the micropub request, and also teh micropub endpoint would need to recognize the 'quotation-of' property and then the site would need to render it the way bridgy expects
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snarfed
in general, bridgy publish deliberately expects specific markup like this for specific silo features like quote tweets, instead of trying to be clever. background: https://snarfed.org/2015-11-29_keep-bridgy-publish-dumb
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Loqi
[Ryan Barrett] Keep Bridgy Publish dumb
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schmarty
this worked for me:
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Loqi
[Marty McGuire] This is quite an interesting re-framing of accountability issues in tech companies.https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/880113154906312704
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schmarty
a sentence and a link to a tweet
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schmarty
rendered as an h-cite
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schmarty
... uh, but then tweeted something different. ;_;
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schmarty
(but it also... worked?)
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snarfed
ruh roh, the preview and publish were different?
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schmarty
i'm confused about the twitter result but not unhappy with it: https://twitter.com/schmarty/status/880122131127967749
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@schmarty
This is quite an interesting re-framing of accountability issues in tech companies.https… http://mmg.re/4p5HqQ QT [@_danilo] I've written to you before on how startup founders and execs act as mine foremen for their venture capital sponsors https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/687384992893288449 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDbKCKqVYAElAw1.jpg
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schmarty
i think the lack of a space between "companies." and the URL made it confused.
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snarfed
looks like the preview showed the same thing as what got tweeted. i see that missing space in the preview too.
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snarfed
it's also missing in your original post :P
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schmarty
ah, yeah, i didn't scroll far enough down when looking at the preview.
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snarfed
but yeah bridgy publish could definitely be smarter and catch it
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schmarty
looks like markdown processing swallowed the newline.
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schmarty
and replaced it with "" 🤷‍♀️
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schmarty
anyway, aside from my trip-up and the idiosyncrasies of my setup, that is kind of an example of how to make Quill + Bridgy Publish post a quote tweet. :p
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[cleverdevil]
I'm lazy and just want a "do it for me" button.
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sketchess
I have a question. :) Does it always give a youtube live stream and / or uploaded videos of the gatherings?
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sketchess
greetings gRegorLove :)
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "❤️ gRegorLove’s photo" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-06-28 http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/28/gregorloves-photo/
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gRegorLove
Hi sketchess. Good morning, indieweb.
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snarfed
hey vouch contributors (aaronpk tantek gRegorLove ben_thatmustbeme) have any of you thought about how it should interpret and handle u-url vs webmention source url?
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snarfed
i'm thinking about if/how bridgy would support, it as a sender
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gRegorLove
Hm, not sure I follow
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snarfed
bridgy wms have source=https://brid.gy/... but e.g. u-url https://twitter.com/...
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sketchess
Do you know, if there is always live stream and video upload of the gatherings, gRegorLove?
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snarfed
sketchess: often yes but no guarantee
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snarfed
in spirit, vouch would maybe prefer u-url, but that may open the door to spoofing? not sure
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sketchess
I would prefer not to. XD
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gRegorLove
sketchess: The annual summit in Portland has had video the last 4 years, as far as I remember. Should all be linked on the wiki. The German IWCs are good about video, too. Others I'm not sure about offhand.
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sketchess
Wow.
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gRegorLove
sketchess: Let me know if you're looking for any particular video. Past years may not be linked up as clearly.
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed: i go based on the webmention url only, so i "trust" brid.gy
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sebsel
sketchess HWCs are as far as I know always without video (except for the Virtual ones), so you can go there safely if you don't want to be videotaped.
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sebsel
just dug when the group photo is taken ;)
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: yeah, in practice many people will whitelist. i'm still interested in if/how bridgy would actually support vouch, though
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gRegorLove
snarfed: Refreshing my memory about my code, heh. Will let you know.
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ben_thatmustbeme
yeah, its a very good question
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sketchess
Thank you sebel. Otherwise it would be very worrying.
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ben_thatmustbeme
you i'm assuming you mean for sending vouched webmentions
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ben_thatmustbeme
s/you i'm/i'm/
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gRegorLove
snarfed: The concern is someone could use a bridgy URL as a vouch?
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ben_thatmustbeme
so, the biggest difficulty is getting the vouch links, its a rough task for the site itself to do, for a 3rd party i could see that being neigh impossible
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sketchess
And no, I am not looking for something, gRegorLove. I only wanna to get past. ;)
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gRegorLove
sketchess: What do you mean by "get past"?
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sketchess
invisible
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sketchess
a I missed letters, I see
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gRegorLove
Oh, if you have privacy concerns at an event, let an organizer know. You definitely don't have to be in any photos or video you don't want to be.
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed, yeah, i think you are correct, it would allow spoofing
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ben_thatmustbeme
thinking it over
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Zegnat
I like how gRegorLove tried to use the indieweb chatlogs as a vouch
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gRegorLove
Hah, that's probably a mistake.
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sketchess
Yeah that would be very important. And good to know.
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gRegorLove
I should re-visit my Vouch implementation, update the URLs it ignores.
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Zegnat
sketchess, if you are thinking of going to a Berlin Homebrew Website Club, I guarantee they are OK with keeping you out of any photos. sknebel can take care of that
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snarfed
gRegorLove ben_thatmustbeme: yeah you can point u-url to any page that has the link path target => vouch => u-url
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Loqi
yea!
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sketchess
greetings Zegnat and thanks
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed, i don't allow rel=nofollow links to work
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Zegnat
My vouch endpoint will ignore links that have rel="nofollow". Most comment forms on traditional websites add that to user posted links, so you can’t post your link to a trusted website and then trick my endpoint
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Zegnat
... as ben_thatmustbeme was saying
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ben_thatmustbeme
and then any comments on posts are rel=nofollow
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snarfed
nofollow seems unrelated. this is about checking a link path from target => vouch => source vs target => vouch => u-url
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ben_thatmustbeme
that way, just getting a comment onto my site, doesn't mean i count as a vouch for you
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sketchess
I am relieved now. :) Would really like to come in November.
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ben_thatmustbeme
its target-(follow)>vouch -(follow)> u-url
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ben_thatmustbeme
otherwise someone can quickly propogate through vouches
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Zegnat
IndieWeb Camp in November could be more tricky, sketchess. Best talk to one of the organisers there: Joschi or Marc.
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ben_thatmustbeme
by finding any 1 person not following vouch, once you have a comment there, use that as a vouch to post on anyone who has commented on any post on that site, repeat
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sketchess
Oh yeah, it was something different, right?
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snarfed
yes, i understand the value of nofollow. my question is about source vs u-url, which seems unrelated :P
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Zegnat
How does vouch relate to a u-url property? Not sure I am following, snarfed
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh, you mean that part, lets move to -dev
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Zegnat
follows to dev
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ben_thatmustbeme
crossed convos is getting messy
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Zegnat
sketchess, yes. IndieWeb Camp are generally bigger events
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Zegnat
Homebrew Website Club is a small fortnightly (every 2 weeks) gathering of IndieWeb community people
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "The duplication of Instagram posts was a bug that got fixed. Mostly it's got a bunch more post kinds (you can choose which in the" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-06-28 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/the-duplication-of-instagram-posts-was-a-bug-that-got
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sketchess
the Homebrew Website Club was the Wednesday session, not often weekend
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Zegnat
The Homebrew Website Club in Berlin is pretty small and has some really clever people there.
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sketchess
Yeah.
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Zegnat
Yes, HWC is Wednesday evening.
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sketchess
Does anyone has timings?
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snarfed
when is next-hwc
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2017-06-28 at Starbucks Sony-Center https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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tantek
what is events
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sketchess
*lol* today
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sketchess
What a pitty. My free days are next week.
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sketchess
It remains strange to me that it takes place in the middle of the week.
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sketchess
would have to drive 2 hours *lol*
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Zegnat
sknebel takes the train in from somewhere outside of Berlin too.
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Zegnat
I think it is on a weekday because you can’t expect people to sacrifice one of their weekend days every two weeks ;)
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sketchess
Oh I just calculated, if I still would make it in time to see anything of it. ;) .... Oh, well after a 14 hours day I am more than tired.
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sketchess
I sleep in the train every time.
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sketchess
day starts 4.45 am
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sketchess
Hmmm, friday would be an option. ;) Short day and weekend on the horizon.
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sketchess
That's life I guess, we can't have everything.
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Zegnat
There are the virtual ones, we just ended hours, you can call into one of those without leaving your house
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sketchess
Thihihi, I guess I will not disappear soon.
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sketchess
The funny thing is I work in Berlin. So we will see how things will work out.
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Zegnat
I hope to visit Berlin in november. I have never been there. Don’t think we ever got to that part of Germany at all
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sketchess
That would be cool.
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sketchess
And thanks again vor yesterday. Currently I am working on my skeleton. :)
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sketchess
good morning / evening Kartik
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sketchess
happy coding everyone
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tantek
hey sketechess - if you're interested in more of the coding, check out #indieweb-dev and feel free to ask coding questions there!
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KartikPrabhu
hello sketchess
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sketchess
has finished the todays goal and cawls into bed now
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sketchess
you too :)
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sketchess
no thanks tantek
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sketchess
is fine and baba
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sknebel
HWC Berlin ends
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sknebel
Someone mentioned me and HWC?
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sebsel
sknebel sketchess would like to attend HWC Berlin once but does not want to be on photo or video
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sknebel
sebsel: OK, thx. Won't be a problem
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Zegnat
Wasn't that already a thing, snarfed? I thought I couldn't edit link descriptions anymore when I posted a link through Facebook's UI.
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snarfed
Zegnat: yup
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sknebel
But they still had it in the API?
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snarfed
i guess?
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Zegnat
shrugs at Facebook inconsistencies
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Zegnat
Well. Of toned for me. Have a good continued HWC day everyone!
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Zegnat
s/toned/to bed/
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sknebel
Zegnat: good night!
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[eddie]
Zegnat: I think they removed it from the UI to avoid easy scamming but left in the API for “official publishers” except scammers can be official publishers too
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[miklb]
I wish there was a way to merge issues in GitHub 😂
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[cleverdevil]
Hehe... gee I wonder why?
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[miklb]
I’m tempted to close one because at this point, the discussion has completely overlapped.
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[miklb]
overlapped and morphed
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GWG
[miklb]: I'm sorry
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[miklb]
Not anyone’s fault GWG. It’s a really good healthy conversation that needs to happen.
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GWG
[miklb]: I know.
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@DreamHost
If you live in #PDX and want to connect with your local #WordPress community, check out @indiewebcamp! https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club
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@priya_somani_
If you live in #PDX and want to connect with your local #WordPress community, check out indiewebcamp! https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club
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[kiai]
Looking forward to the meetup!
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[kiai]
<-- spends too much time alone.
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snarfed
added json feed support to granary (input and output). https://granary-demo.appspot.com/?input=jsonfeed
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snarfed
maybe jf2 next
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[cleverdevil]
snarfed++ nice!
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Loqi
snarfed has 276 karma in this channel (285 overall)
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[cleverdevil]
FWIW, the jsonfeed implementation I added to Known has an extension that supports some JF2-ish things: https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/issues/51
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Loqi
[cleverdevil] #51 Representing alternate post types
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snarfed
[cleverdevil]++
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Loqi
cleverdevil has 33 karma in this channel (45 overall)
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schmarty
HWC Baltimore quiet writing hour is started
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schmarty
we are playing the IWS keynotes in the background.
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neilpdx
hi kiai
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neilpdx
what city are you from [kiai]
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gRegorLove
Is there a North America TZ Virtual HWC tonight?
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gRegorLove
I think that was [chrisaldrich] heading that up. He's probably busy with new house stuff.
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[chrisaldrich]
That and GWG is out of the country... ;)
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: Your point?
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GWG
Pretend I'm on NYC time.
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GWG
Hotel has wifi, and I have a microphone
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GWG
kraftbj: Hello
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tantek
The latest IndieWebCamp season has been released! IndieWebSummit 2017 - an exciting series with several parallel storylines in parts, serialized for your convenience into 24 episodes! Links (with durations) here https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Saturday
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tantek
now to do the math on how many hours of actual footage has been posted
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tantek
we may have hit a new record
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aaronpk
14 hours IIRC
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snarfed
aaronpk++ for professional grade video capturing and editing
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Loqi
aaronpk has 515 karma in this channel (1362 overall)
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[cleverdevil]
weapons grade.
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[cleverdevil]
CARRIER GRADE.
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tantek
That's like an entire TV season
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tantek
aaronpk did we not record the main room hack day intro?
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tantek
oops going to meta
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[grantcodes]
With 24 episodes someone should totally put in the clock from 24!
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "1. #IndieWeb Summit videos: https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Saturday (14hrs, 24 episodes!) 2. HWC Meetup TONIGHT 17:30 @MozSF: tantek.com/2017/179/e1/homebrew-website-club (and also on Facebook: https://facebook.com/events/120457305222422)" on 2017-06-28 http://tantek.com/2017/179/t3/indieweb-summit-videos-meetup-tonight
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@t
1. #IndieWeb Summit videos: https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Saturday (14hrs, 24 episodes!) 2. HWC Meetup TONIGHT 17:30 @MozSF: http://tantek.com/2017/179/t3
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tantek
four of us here at HWC SF!
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tantek
just discovered that PDFs do not show any /link-preview in FB posts
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Loqi
calumryan has 8 karma
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Loqi
[Calum Ryan] June 28, 2017 Homebrew Website Club London Year 1 For the past twelve months I’ve been organising a meetup in London for people i...
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tantek
Evan Sirchuk found us accidentaly, he wanted something like indieweb so he searched to see if the name was taken - and read the first few hearders on the website was like holy s*** this is like exactly what I want to do
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tantek
... for him what was confusing was, how do I start? What service is this providing?
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tantek
... Am I supposed to upload HTML? Is this like WordPress? Alternative to Blogspot?
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tantek
... Went on the wiki and trying to figure it out and it was more conceptual stuff
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tantek
... There were some sections on things like being pluralistic - so maybe they do HTML?
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tantek
... found wiki page on migration
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tantek
... roping in different social media outlets.
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tantek
... Problem with HTML 1.0 websites that I make, no one knows about it. I update it and it's cool but no one sees it
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tantek
... I was confused about implementation
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tantek
... Found the "Get Started Now" link but didn't click on it. Don't know why.
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tantek
.. Why IndieWeb goes down the rabbithole of conceptual stuff
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tantek
... eventually I got to Getting Started, and as someone who writes HTML, I got confused by this page
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tantek
... like this is more for migrating people's WordPresses, or people that use a platform, or people that use a Blogspot?
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tantek
... but what do I if I only have HTML?
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tantek
... Maybe different start butons: Are you trying to move your WordPress? Are you trying to move your HTML?
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tantek
... Where do I host? Do I keep them?
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tantek
... [the person who is already hosting me]
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tantek
Tantek: like maybe with the github pages thing
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[kiai]
@neilpdx I'm from New York, but right now I'm in San Francisco sitting in the Mozilla lounge. Sorry to interrupt your flow, tantek
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tantek
Evan: maybe two big buttons on the home page: [ Migrate ] and [ Start From Scratch ]
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tantek
... and then from the Migrate - just a few simple options from: [ WordPress ] [ Plain HTML ] etc.
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@DreamHost
@macgenie @IndieWebSummit @voiceboxpdx @cleverdevil It was very much our pleasure! We had a blast!
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@priya_somani_
RT macgenie: #IndieWeb Summit was incredible. I so appreciate mozilla hosting in their groovy offices. And DreamHo… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/879366147417583616
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@priya_somani_
RT macgenie: Thank you DreamHost for sponsoring IndieWebSummit karaoke tonight at voiceboxpdx! I hope cleverdevil will do a duet with me.
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@priya_somani_
macgenie IndieWebSummit voiceboxpdx cleverdevil It was very much our pleasure! We had a blast!
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tantek
I showed Aaronpk's keynote from IndieWeb Summit
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tantek
and noted it's just 1 of 24 episodes from the summit
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tantek
showed aaronpk's use of Webmention and Bridgy to show responses on a recent post
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tantek
demo'd my site what I got working recently - event posts
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tantek
showed aaronpk's home stream, and werd.io as a contrast
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tantek
also showed stream.boffosocko.com
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tantek
and withknown.com
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tantek
Kiai has finished the video for her new site
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tantek
careforus.us
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tantek
has completed her 501c3 application too!
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tantek
Evan is now showing his website
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tantek
uses flexbox
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tantek
he makes audio effects for Ableton
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tantek
(hey aaronpk ^^^ !!!! )
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tantek
uses google forms for "Contact Me"
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tantek
aaronpk definitely read above where I logged what he was saying about the home page - he gave his first impression since he just found about indieweb TODAY!
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aaronpk
yeah! super great feedback
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tantek
some good insights and recommendations
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tantek
he also has sirchuk.net
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tantek
(his last name)
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tantek
has different sections
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tantek
[loving this design aesthetic]
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tantek
heh just discovering the /discuss page is confusing for new folks
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tantek
somehow the new channel descriptions crowded out the instructions to join
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[evan_sirchuk]
Woah it worked!
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[evan_sirchuk]
Hey ya'll
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[evan_sirchuk]
Web 1.0 in the house!
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tantek
welcome [evan_sirchuk] !
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[evan_sirchuk]
Thanks!
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aaronpk
welcome!
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tantek
what is a static site?
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Loqi
A static site is a website that is served by a web server directly from the file system https://indieweb.org/static-site
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[evan_sirchuk]
Thanks aaronpk
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[evan_sirchuk]
how do migrate?
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[evan_sirchuk]
hehe bot is still learning!
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@indietechrocks
Quill is a simple app for posting text notes to your website. #indieweb http://indietech.rocks/update/2017/06/29/quill.html
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tantek
good evening #indieweb
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GWG
tantek: Greetings
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Comment on The beginnings of a blogroll by Richard MacManus" by Richard MacManus on 2017-06-29 http://boffosocko.com/2017/06/26/indieweb-blogroll/#comment-35039
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@ricmac
My latest AltPlatform post looks at the state of feed readers in 2017. #IndieWeb http://altplatform.org/2017/06/28/the-state-of-feed-readers/
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb!
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sknebel
good morning Zegnat!
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Zegnat
Good morning sknebel! Any new project ideas coming out of last night’s HWC?
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Jeena
Zegnat, I don't need to be a organizer for the virtual one, but does someone else have the possibility to create events on their website so we can create a event where to rsvp?
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Zegnat
I can, but my website doesn’t show the RSVPs, they would be going to me privately
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cweiske
does webmention.io support RSVP overviews?
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cweiske
maybe you could use that