#indieweb 2017-08-31

2017-08-31 UTC
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tantek good evening #indieweb
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[kevinmarks] Silo hubris https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2007/feb/08/business.comment
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dgold good morning indiewebbers
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dgold i'm puzzling over how to markup a link to osm's copyright page.
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cweiske that's easy: <a href="...">..</a>
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dgold :)
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dgold nah - I meant microformat, but on further reading I see that this is an open issue since 2006(!)
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cweiske what exactly do you want to express?
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cweiske apart from a link
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dgold http://tinyurl.com/yaxc49a2 [ http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license-issues ]
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Loqi rel-license-issues
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dgold wanted to express in mf that this is a link to a licence for this particular element on my page
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dgold in the same way that, say, a reference to an individual or a place is/can be semantically marked up as a h-card
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@sl007 @marcthiele @bastianallgeier Apart from maybe meeting that other tourist @fredericmarx there is https://indieweb.org/events/2017-09-06-homebrew-website-club ;) (twitter.com/_/status/903174002985852928)
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[kevinmarks] Rel scoping is hard
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sl007 dgold - do you mean to give OSM credits ? Not sure about http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-author
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Loqi rel author
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sl007 dgold - oversaw last post : need exactly this too. See the discussion https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-08-10 and somewhen befor - also want to know how to "scope" such things ...
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dgold thank you
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dgold food for thought
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[kevinmarks] Hah https://xkcd.com/1883/
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Loqi [XKCD] Supervillain Plan https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/supervillain_plan_2x.png
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sebsel sl007, dgold: we had some talk about adding licenses to Mf2 in Nurnberg https://indieweb.org/2017/Nuremberg/law
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sebsel The use-case we came up with, was that we can repost and create reply-contexts only when a license that permits such things was found.
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sebsel Ah, I see sl007 was there too, sorry :)
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sebsel (I don't see sl007 on video, but his name is in the notes... strange. Where you there?)
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sknebel was remote
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dgold sebsel - i wholeheartedly approve of that wrt repost
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dgold in terms of using osm data/tiles for a tile snippet, I want to comply with http://tinyurl.com/asg38fr [ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#3a._I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F ]
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dgold and I think (but am open to correction) that such _attribution_ should be referenced in semantic markup
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sebsel license << /2017/Nuremberg/law
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Loqi ok, I added "/2017/Nuremberg/law" to the "See Also" section of /license
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dgold gods, I wish i'd been at Nurnberg
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sebsel dgold: I've added a "why and when" section to /license#Brainstorm
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sebsel feel free to add your case :)
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dgold the GPDR mention, while strictly correct, is kind of not relevant to mentions/repost/h-cards
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dgold the GPDR (like most EU legislation) has a principle of proportionality
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sebsel The point that was made in Nurnberg is that we don't know, and that it's good to be aware and careful about it. We're all no lawyers.
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sebsel I believe no-one was actually planning on making this auto-license-check anytime soon for showing likes and comments, and not for reply-contexts but for reposts it might make sense.
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[kevinmarks] Different set of principles https://twitter.com/MEF/status/903172662662496256
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@MEF We're at #MyData2017 which is kicking off today with MEF member @cozycloud @nitot on the main stage sharing the 7 principles for self #data https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIi2JJBW4AIYkPN.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/903172662662496256)
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb
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schmarty ahoy, indieweb!
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[kevinmarks] Hello
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EmreSoku_ hi everyone,
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GWG Hi
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@m_ott Publish on your own domain. Own your content. #IndieWeb https://twitter.com/r00k/status/902721054312996864 (twitter.com/_/status/903265461793587202)
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sl007 Wanted to buy a 10m HDMI cable for a presentation monitor at https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE - Festival for journalism - it was 85€. They told me, Chromecast can do this as well. So bought Chromecast.
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sl007 On the package it says "SCREEN sharing from Laptop" - inside the package it says "Sharing only from Chrome" ( ? ? ? )
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sebsel I have a Chromecast (old version) too here
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sebsel There is a way to cast webpages to the Chromecast, indeed, but it only works from Chrome
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sl007 WTF ? This is totally against german law!
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cweiske the chromecast integration in chrome supports full screen casting
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cweiske IIRC
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sebsel Seems so indeed https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3228332?hl=en&ref_topic=4602553
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sl007 ok, thx. - I'll try it out now. They should write it on the package and not hide it in the Internet - loving long printed manuals …
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cweiske what actually do you expect of google?
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cweiske and that for 35€?
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sl007 I do expect them to respect the german law.
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cweiske and that requires printed manuals?
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cweiske and the "chrome" in "chromecast" didn't give you a hint?
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sebsel There is always software on your machine involved. In this case, you need Google Chrome.
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cweiske if there was a hdmi-dongle, no software would have been needed
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sl007 No, it requires to print the requirements on the package and not inside …
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sebsel cweiske Ah, yeah, true
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cweiske then it simply would show up as another display
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sl007 Ok. I see. sebsel, tested the beamer today - it was so/so (when it is light) and I noticed that I need glasses ;( [used daddys glasses, was better] - however I'll bring a monitor as fallback.
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sl007 sebsel - do you've got an external webcam?
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petermolnar "I do expect them to respect the [instert any country] law." lol
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sebsel I do, and I will bring that one. It's not the best, but not bad either. https://assets.logitech.com/assets/55370/hd-webcam-c310-gallery.png
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sl007 cool. btw: am in Dinslaken now until the festival. Will go also Wednesday (setup) /Thursday. Car is always free.
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sebsel sl007 Okay! Yeah, it's going fast now!
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sl007 yes - and the schedule is huge now https://campfirefestival2017.sched.com
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Loqi [superfeedr] "First day at the new house" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2017/08/31/first-day-at-the-new-house/
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sketchess Good morning Loqi, good morning Indieweb.
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Loqi sketchess: tantek left you a message 4 days, 15 hours ago: no impoliteness intended, rather, noting that any attempt to write a guide should follow having achieved whatever level of indieweb the guide is trying to teach
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sketchess xD
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sketchess_ wow, jumpy evening
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@cleverdevil Enjoying the 2nd meeting of the @DreamHost Website Club! Nearly 20 attendees working on owning their digital presence. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/903337989052534785)
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@megarush1024 Welcome to the #indieweb! https://twitter.com/derekriemer/status/903339932646858756 (twitter.com/_/status/903347587415146496)
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