#indieweb 2018-03-19

2018-03-19 UTC
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@schmarty
Your < 10min update on the #IndieWeb community! This Week in the IndieWeb audio edition for March 10th - 16th, 2018. https://martymcgui.re/2018/03/18/211139/
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@huffduffer
This Week in the IndieWeb Audio Edition • March 10th - 16th, 2018 https://huffduffer.com/schmarty/466567
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "2018: Some Hope" on 2018-01-03 http://inessential.com/2018/01/03/2018_some_hope.html
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Evergreen Diary #9: On IndieWeb" on 2018-01-25 http://inessential.com/2018/01/25/evergreen_diary_9_on_indieweb.html
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snarfed
interesting example of a review with comment, syndicated to Letterboxd, a new silo to me: https://mssv.net/2018/03/18/the-wind-rises-2013-%e2%98%85%e2%98%85%e2%98%85/
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Loqi
[Adrian Hon] The Wind Rises, 2013 – ★★★
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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Adrian1
Hey, regarding that thing about Letterboxd, I actually wrote that review on Letterboxd, then had IFTTT post it to my Wordpress, which was then retrieved by Micro.blog
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Adrian1
Which is a crazy way of doing things but hey it works (for now)
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@kevinmarks
Which horrible affliction is Facebook? Ben explains the pathology of modelling social networks on infectious diseases: https://words.werd.io/personality-tests-and-the-downfall-of-democracy-9a4fe2e835e5 #indieweb
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@kevinmarks
@sil @danwrong Lots of feed readers for podcasts, and we are having a feed renaissance with indieweb https://indieweb.org/Microsub
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sknebel
good morning!
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@cfiesler
I'm going to tie this to my ongoing work around platform migration in fandom. This graph shows a drop off in Livejournal use, but it didn't start until YEARS after events people told me were dealbreakers. It took Tumblr + AO3 being viable alternatives for mass migration to occur. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYqEqRdVAAEpooN.jpg
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[eddie]
What is letterboxed?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "letterboxed" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "letterboxed is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[eddie]
What is letterboxd?
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Loqi
Letterboxd is a silo for keeping track of films and reviews in what they call a "film diary" https://indieweb.org/Letterboxd
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[cleverdevil]
Good morning, IndieWeb 🙂
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sknebel
good morning
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@verso
@zcichy Allow me to introduce you to #indieweb and @microdotblog where it’s all your own stuff. (:
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gRegorLove
Facebook has been pushing for me to turn on face recognition with posts interspersed in my news feed
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gRegorLove
"Introducing Face Recognition For More Features"
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gRegorLove
"Find photos you're in but haven't been tagged. Help protect you from strangers using your photo. Tell people with visual impairments who's in your photo or video."
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snarfed1
facebook++ for making it opt in instead of opt out
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Loqi
facebook has -14 karma
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snarfed1
for now at least)
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sknebel
they ask to turn that on?
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snarfed
heh jinx
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sknebel
(was there a lawsuit recently around that? there's been so much crap in that space that I don't quite remember)
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@ChrisAldrich
@zmoglesby Wait... What?! There's a reading plugin for @WithKnown? It appears to be based on Jonathan LaCour's Food plugin, but portends some interesting new "read" post functionality within the IndieWeb community. https://github.com/zoglesby/Known-Read
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jjuran
s/opt in/nag in/
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@kevinmarks
“In 2017 240 million BBC podcasts were downloaded, an increase of 12% in a year. …We’re about to announce the appointment of a new Podcast Commissioner…” http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/speeches/2018/radiodays-bob-shennan?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_press_office&ns_source=indieweb&ns_linkname=corporate
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Loqi
[superfeedr] "Which horrible affliction is Facebook? Ben explains ..." by Kevin Marks on 2018-03-19 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2018/which-horrible-affliction-is-facebook-ben-explains
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Zegnat
BBC Podcasts are nice. Though I do not like that not all of them have a backlog of downloads. If I miss a week, there is no going back
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Loqi
misses a week too
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eli_oat
Logi, you've never missed a week
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eli_oat
Loqi, rather — whoops
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KartikPrabhu
gives Loqi a week
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Loqi
grabs the week
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[kevinmarks]
they're getting better at that - I was chatting to the BBC head of audiences last week and they're well aware that they need better rights terms
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[kevinmarks]
In Our Time and Desert Island Discs have the entire archive up
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[kevinmarks]
I love In Our Time - 45 minutes of the current knowledge about… something
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[kevinmarks]
But with the archive it is a great resource
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tantek
what is In Our Time?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "In Our Time" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "In Our Time is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jeremycherfas]
I agree IOT is wonderful, when it is good. Too often, though, I feel Lord Bragg is either just coasting or that he doesn’t really care to understand.
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Zegnat
[kevinmarks], I am subscribed to the Friday Night Comedy podcast. I think that’s all BBC produced content so surely shouldn’t have rights issues?! Maybe that’s a conversation for #indieweb-chat
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@sdepolo
Loads of good stuff happens each week in the #indieweb movement. Thanks to @schmarty, it's a breeze to keep up with it. Great #Podcast! https://twitter.com/schmarty/status/975540880714223616
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@Snowden
Businesses that make money by collecting and selling detailed records of private lives were once plainly described as "surveillance companies." Their rebranding as "social media" is the most successful deception since the Department of War became the Department of Defense.
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Loqi
ok, I added "2018-03-17 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/975147858096742405" to the "See Also" section of /social_media
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@NZN
#indieweb #indiedev #indiefilm #indiegame #indie indie pen dances are ALWAYS DECLARED #JohnHancock self-Sovereign #ID is de wae #OwnRoot leverage is personal, data structure yields results.. overcome #FREEdumb #OwnYourself
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sebsel
It's way too late for me to listen to a +1hour podcast, but I'm doing it anyway.
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tantek
1 hour?!?
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sknebel
chrisaldrich++
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Loqi
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Loqi
gwg has 228 karma in this channel (315 overall)
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GWG
It was fun
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tantek
I feel there's an indieweb opportunity with the recent blow-up of FB/CA
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tantek
are people following that particular trashfire in progress?
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tantek
in particular I believe this has implications for all the discussions about "private content" and "privacy" use-cases
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tantek
when asked why do you use FB? or what motivates you, the most often use-case I hear is sharing of private info (usually photos) with friends and family
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tantek
the big reveal (IMO) of the FB/CA disclosures is that nothing you post to FB is actually "private", in practice it is silent shared with random apps (that you happen to use your FB ID to sign into), which then are sharing it with other orgs via acquisition or just outright selling your data.
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tantek
this is a decent article about some of the details / examples of that: http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/03/what-is-cambridge-analytica-and-who-is-christopher-wylie.html
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tantek
silo-quits << delete your account
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[delete your account]]" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits
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EmreSokullu
@tantek I agree, I would have deleted my account long ago if I didn't have so many apps (for clients!) Facebook Connect is still the killer app and a major source of logins for FB.
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EmreSokullu
We need a blockchain based OpenID :)
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tantek
EmreSokullu: did you hear about Hiveway?
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EmreSokullu
no
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tantek
ask :)
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EmreSokullu
yes I've found the Github repo
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EmreSokullu
let me see
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tantek
no I mean what is
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EmreSokullu
This title is pretty explanatory :) "Hiveway.io forks Mastodon and slaps a blockchain on top, for some reason" -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16517108
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Loqi
[DeadSuperHero] Hiveway.io rips off of Mastodon and slaps a blockchain on top
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EmreSokullu
joke aside, I should take a closer look, is there anyone working on it here?
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16517108" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Hiveway
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Loqi
[DeadSuperHero] Hiveway.io rips off of Mastodon and slaps a blockchain on top
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tantek
EmreSokullu: lots more here...
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tantek
what is hiveway
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Loqi
Hiveway (AKA Etherhive[1]) was perhaps the shortest lived silo (~7d), ICO (~4d)[2], and supposed use of blockchain ever; as a fork of Mastodon[3] that attempted to hide the fact[4][5], later admitting it[6][7], then shutdown within two days[8] https://indieweb.org/Hiveway
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EmreSokullu
ah OK, I'm learning how to use this )
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EmreSokullu
Thanks btw, not sure it's what i'm looking for. Decentralized != Blockchain, but they use it for the sake of PR points and potentially ICO profits.
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EmreSokullu
what is Loqi?
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Loqi
Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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jjuran
pets Loqi
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GWG
What is a series?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "series" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "series is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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chrisaldrich
What is a collection?
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Loqi
A collection is a type of post that explicitly lists and/or embeds multiple other posts chosen by the author https://indieweb.org/collection
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GWG
A series is a set of posts published in installments.
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tantek
GWG, that doesn't really help
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GWG
A collection isn't in installment form
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tantek
defining a new term in terms of another new undefined term
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tantek
what are installments
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "installments" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "installments is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG
tantek, I need to elaborate
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GWG
I publish Series
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tantek
GWG, there's also tv series, episodes, podcast series etc.
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tantek
I don't think "installment" is really a good way to express the different ways people publish series of things
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GWG
Technically, it is a type of collection