#indieweb 2018-07-17
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "p-in-reply-to" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "p-in-reply-to is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi microformats are extensions to HTML for marking up people, organizations, events, locations, blog posts, products, reviews, resumes, recipes etc https://indieweb.org/microformats
# Loqi in-reply-to is a microformat for use where a post is a reply to another post https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to
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tantek___ p-in-reply-to is /in-reply-to
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "difference between p-in-reply-to u-in-reply.to" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "difference between p-in-reply-to u-in-reply.to is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "content prefixes" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "content prefixes is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "content prefix" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "content prefix is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi p-name is a microformats2 property class name that specifies a plain text name of an object, whether an h-card, h-event, h-entry, etc https://indieweb.org/p-name
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# Loqi A photo is a post whose primary content is a photograph or other image, with an optional caption. With multiple photographs it becomes a multi-photo post https://indieweb.org/p
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "u-" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "u- is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu what!?
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GWG dougbeal: Try http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2
# KartikPrabhu why is p- redireted to photo posts?
# KartikPrabhu hmmm
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gRegorLove dougbeal: deeper dive on the prefix conventions: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-prefixes
# Loqi App likely refers to native app, typically a less functional version of a web site that is usually restricted to one or more proprietary platforms, but may also refer to the .app top level domain https://indieweb.org/apps
# tantek___ app << 2018-07-10 Popular Science: [https://www.popsci.com/delete-your-apps On the 10th anniversary of the App store, it’s time to delete most of your apps]
# Loqi ok, I added "2018-07-10 Popular Science: [https://www.popsci.com/delete-your-apps On the 10th anniversary of the App store, it’s time to delete most of your apps]" to the "See Also" section of /app https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50046&oldid=47342
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@jgmac1106 #digiuri If you want students to think about how truth is shaped online or focus on culture of inquiry give students their own domain. Shaping your own truth through the #indieweb first place to start. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4537-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019067805398953986)
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# @jgmac1106 I was syndicating all my #hrderby updates from my blog to Twitter #IndieWeb style but the @NextScripts plugin seemed to give out halfway through (twitter.com/_/status/1019073707464122373)
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# Loqi ok, I added "https://thenextweb.com/media/2013/08/06/who-needs-a-comment-thread-quartz-now-lets-readers-annotate-articles-paragraph-by-paragraph/" to the "See Also" section of /annotation https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50054&oldid=41238
# Loqi Instapaper is a content hosting silo for bookmarks https://indieweb.org/Instapaper
# Loqi ok, I added "https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/16/instapaper-buys-itself-back-pinterest/" to the "See Also" section of /Instapaper https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50055&oldid=5720
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ There's some documentation at https://indieweb.org/Workflow.
I also suspect that some of the WordPress/iOS crowd hanging out in http://micro.blog may have some experience with this.Searching in chat may reveal more: https://chat.indieweb.org/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019098986551173120)
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@EduQuinn ↩️ I think this falls in the Yes AND bucket...tools will be used & disappear (especially if free), but are helpful for making the content for your #indieweb domain. About to start my own @ReclaimHosting journey. Could an organizational account be use to create a #DoOO for a class? (twitter.com/_/status/1019103449965707265)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ And the AND only works if own your content and space. Most folks get on boarded to #indieweb and #DoOO through other platforms but as #k12 educators we not only have the opportunity to change this but a moral responsibility. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4546-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019162392050196481)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ I am running my Digital Teaching and Learning Too class in the open starting 7/30. Gonna be a crash course (Summer C is short) in #DoOO and #IndieWeb. If any #digiuri folks curious come along. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4550-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019165318801960960)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ @eduquinn I will also be speaking at @WordPressRI soon about getting started with #IndieWeb tools on WordPress. #digiuri folks should hit that up. If you launch #DoOO I can help you set up a Hombrew Website Club. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4552-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019166902478888960)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Finally @CathieLeBlanc @dshanske and I are organizing an #IndieWebCamp in NYC late September. Hoping to secure venue for the free conference this week. If #digiuri folks near the City should get on the bus when it comes by. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4554-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019168214935326720)
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# @jgmac1106 We have something with the clout of Teachers Paying Teachers. It is called the Web. If we all spent time learning a bit of HTML educators could take control of their content #IndieWeb style. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4565-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019174011073368064)
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92AADJRGD Morning all, sorry about the early morning syndication spam. Do a lot of evangelizing when I start my day
# 92AADJRGD wow an even newer new user name, let me quit my client
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@00d4n1_ebooks If i search for my indieweb ostatus identifier from masto well, glitchsoc,…. (twitter.com/_/status/1019176554654588929)
# @jgmac1106 Okay now I know why I couldn’t live Tweet the #hrderby #IndieWeb style using SNAP from @nextscripts. @Twitter flagged me as a bot and throttled my account.Guess what Live Tweeting takes a lot of tweets. “Application cannot perform write actions. Contact… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4570-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019177761318064133)
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@Dreamseer Gibt es eigentlich eine WordPress/Indieweb-Magie für Links und Syndication nach Pinboard? Ich würde gerne meine Link-Sammlung nach lokal umziehen, aber neue Links weiterhin nach Pinboard publishen. (twitter.com/_/status/1019198609454182400)
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@mxbck ↩️ Awesome! Would love to see more people going the indieweb route with their content. This really should be easier for people without tech knowledge as well... (twitter.com/_/status/1019213440328531968)
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@bradenslen New Urbanism and the IndieWeb Share a Common Thread: https://ramblinggit.com/2018/07/new-urbanism-and-the-indieweb-share-a-common-thread/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019218670390833152)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ The #IndieWeb tools get more user friendly every day. Feel like more and more people embracing the ability to control their data and shape their identity. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4597-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019220500256641026)
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@GR36 ↩️ It's pretty easy to get it too work out the box with the indieweb plugin. It's taken me a bit of work to get the rss feeds working as I wanted but that's just me (twitter.com/_/status/1019225402211004416)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Setting up WordPress to http://micro.blog is actually pretty easy (full disclosure I was sitting next to @jeaniemcgenie and @manton at the http://micro.blog meet up at the #IndieWebSummit…that helped) but just to https://micro.blog/account then… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4611-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019230245373792261)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Also one thing to note Independent Publisher doesn’t have a native h-card. If you use the #IndieWeb plugin you can add one (fill out your WP profile and then use the h-card widget) or you can manually add one to your site. Always feel free to reach out… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4613-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019230970875203584)
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@jhugman ↩️ Perhaps I’m behind the times here with your thinking; are you looking for something like https://withknown.com ?
https://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1019236339169005570)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Okay booting the redo of the SOE pages another two days. I am just too old to do web design on a 15 inch screen. Just need to get home to big displays. Back to the IndieWeb grant. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4623-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019240090307055616)
# jackjamieson Good morning indieweb!
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@benwerd Notes from Homebrew Website Club, Night Vale chapter:
The creepy old woman who lives under the stairs has finally migrated her blog
We wish we didn’t need p-skeletons, but here we are
The goo in the corner is just curious about CSS
DO NOT WEBMENTION THE EYE
#indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1019249652657344512)
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# KartikPrabhu ha!
# KartikPrabhu benwerd++
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# [Vanessa] Ha ha very good. Love a bit of Nightvale 🙂
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ @UnixSysAdmin These are called webmentions they are the glue of the #IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/Webmention (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4630-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019261140042440705)
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# gRegorLove Howdy, #indieweb
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# tantek__ Great post by Laura Kalbag about some of the challenges for "everyone" to be on the indieweb: https://laurakalbag.com/beyond-my-means/
# Loqi Generations in the context of the IndieWeb refer to clusters of potential IndieWeb adopters in a series of waves that are expected to naturally adopt the IndieWeb for themselves and then help inform the next generation https://indieweb.org/barriers
# tantek__ maybe worth documenting each of these explicitly as subsections (financial, time, ability (that's basically /generations), confidence (interesting), accessibility) in a new /barriers page
# snarfed https://indieweb.org/web_hosting does that a decent amount
# tantek__ generations << 2018-07-17 Laura Kalbag: [https://laurakalbag.com/beyond-my-means/ Beyond my means]
# Loqi ok, I added "2018-07-17 Laura Kalbag: [https://laurakalbag.com/beyond-my-means/ Beyond my means]" to the "See Also" section of /generations https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50061&oldid=49476
# kicks it seems like some kind of micropub proxy to neocities could really help the financial, time, ability angles
# kicks well, i think it's probably better than so many of the other options listed on the web_hosting page (tumblr, blogger)
# kicks i wish isps still gave away free space - that was an ideal answer
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# snarfed should generally be documented on https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Custom_domain_silos and the individual silo wiki pages
# kicks i forget that brid.gy offers webmentions for stuff like tumblr
# kicks what an invaluable service
# tantek__ perhaps add that to /GitHub#Brainstorming ?
# snarfed dougbeal: lots of other options similar to GH pages! https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Static_domain_hosting
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@rboren ↩️ There’s a part of me that wants links to come back first class and be added to Calypso (with some Reader integration). That’d be a nice thing for IndieWeb and indie ed-tech movements. Also, an easier IndieWeb onboarding experience. Gimme an IndieWeb toggle on .com. (twitter.com/_/status/1019280767225090049)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ I see that you have a WordPress site. We have all the plugins you need. If you ever want help figuring it out and adding #IndieWeb to your website just hit any of use up at anytime or stop by https://chat.indieweb.org (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4632-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019285811546742785)
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ OMG an #IndieWeb toggle on .com sites would be amazing! How I onboard everyone to the web. Though I do believe this would require a removal of some older microformats and replacing them with microformats2. Having mf2 native in core would simply make the… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4634-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019288104463667200)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ We are currently doing UX study (user stories of people who have not used #IndieWeb @Wordpress, people just starting, veterans, and developers. Using this to guide my work of a tutorial rewrite: https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com/getting-started-with-WordPress-for-beginners Would love feedback from either of… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4636-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019289006281019392)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Actually in DC for awhile to watch ⚾️ had tix to the #hrderby but gave my son tix to tonight’s game. Probably gonna be around Yards Park tonight. If by some weird chance you around the area love to talk @WordPress and #IndieWeb (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4639-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1019289915610320897)
# gRegorLove what is neocities?
# Loqi NeoCities is a free website hosting silo in the spirit of defunct silo GeoCities (Yahoo shutdown in 2009) that looks like a stepping stone to getting started on the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/NeoCities
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# [kim_landwehr] Image from iOS https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FBS5W2EF4/image_from_ios.jpg?pub_secret=efe3595ab9&name=Image from iOS.jpg Guys I am still getting this trying to log in Monocle. The website is a micro.blog website my own domain thru Hover. I have no problem logging in with my blot.im account. However I really would like to use my micro.blog account. I not sure what to do
# gRegorLove Checked and updated /Neocities. It does support custom domain (1GB of storage now, and free https!)
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# [Vanessa] Faff is such a useful word. Sometimes we Brits get it right 🙂 [jgmac1106]
# [kim_landwehr] Does that include the https://aperture.p3k.io/microsub/52 [aaronpk], sorry I am unclear what duplicate endpoints are
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[kevinmarks] hm, maybe UK slang is a good source for project names
# [kevinmarks] a reader named faff
# [kevinmarks] monocle doesn't like my known site either
# [Vanessa] Ought to be called “faffless” to make it an easy-to-use reader 😉
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# [kevinmarks] except reading feeds is all abot the faffing
# [kevinmarks] hm. unmung is 502ing because my quota limit got hit
# [Vanessa] Ah, the subtleties of language 🙂
# [kevinmarks] hm. feed parsing taking ~12 seconds seems a bit much
# [kevinmarks] where's the best channel for microsub troubleshooting?
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Don’t think I will have the travel budget for @CLASummit with #LRA18 being in Palm Springs but if not lurk and watch the issues my students must overcome to use #IndieWeb WordPress as decentralized LMS for when you try…Then we can plan Homebrew Website… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4644-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1019309032832753670)
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# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2014/01/20/felix-schwenzel-ueber-indieweb-und-reclaim-social-media/
# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2013/09/16/indieauth-unterstuetzt-openid-delegation/
# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2013/07/25/warum-man-medium-nicht-nutzen-sollte/
# snarfed gRegorLove: mind adding it to https://indieweb.org/web_hosting ?
# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2013/07/10/the-indieweb-as-a-minimum-viable-social-web-ecosystem/
# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2013/06/22/like/
# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2013/06/20/5231/
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# Loqi [indienews/de] New post: https://notiz.blog/2011/07/10/the-indie-web-who-owns-your-identity/
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# [kevinmarks] [dgold] I have a GDPR related question - if someone else gives a site my email address by mistake, what is my recourse under GDPR?
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jgmac1106 Anyone remember the Summit attendee who did the Arcadia Wilderness stuff. Saw this tweet https://twitter.com/StrangeInvasive/status/1018513789069807616 and remembered some of his projects
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@StrangeInvasive Does anyone have any examples of using @Raspberry_Pi for #conservation or #ecology projects?? Please RT, thanks science peeps 🤓🦋🐢🐝🦏🌿🌷🐾 (twitter.com/_/status/1018513789069807616)
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# [Vanessa] [kevinmarks] You should have the right to have your email deleted from the database of the person who has received it by mistake. The person who gave out the wrong information should ask the third party to remove it, within a month of your request - not that I’d trust them to. Comes under right of erasure, I believe. There’s bits about disproprtionate work involved in doing this, having to make a formal note of reasons for not informing third
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@gozala If you’re in SF on 7/31 day before #dwebsummit2018 & don’t already have plans, you’re officially invited by Mozilla to come participate in complementary one day #dweb Hackers Day / IndieWebCamp at Mozilla SF location https://IndieWeb.org/2018/SF (twitter.com/_/status/1019333647571214338)
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@manton2 After IndieWebCamp Austin last year, we let the Homebrew Website Club meetups kind of fade away. Time to reboot it. August 1st, 6:30pm at Mozart’s Coffee. https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/1019342789073670144)
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# [jgmac1106] Austin++
# [jgmac1106] just bc a city that ccol deserves more than one Karma
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@megarush1024 Kill Process was an extremely satisfying read and it’s definitely going on the will reread pile. I’m going to go work on the indiewebification of my websites now. Open and decentralized social networking is going to win. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1019349900964827136)
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@anildash_ebooks ↩️ @marshallk What % of indieweb stalwarts are watching wha... (twitter.com/_/status/1019365495894491136)
# KartikPrabhu what's that tweet even supposed to mean
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@t Event: IndieWebCamp SF / #DWeb Hackers Day
At: 2018-07-31 10:00 @MozSF
RSVP: http://tantek.com/e/4vi1 (twitter.com/_/status/1019368467718397957)
# snarfed feel free to look at tumblr users on https://brid.gy/users