#indieweb 2018-07-22

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tantek__ Twitter << 2018-07-20 Criticism: NYTimes [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/sunday-review/maggie-haberman-twitter-donald-trump.html Maggie Haberman: Why I Needed to Pull Back From Twitter] <blockquote>Twitter has stopped being a place where I could learn things I didn’t know, glean information that was free from errors about a breaking news story or engage in a discussion and be reasonably confident that people’s criticisms were
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-07-20 Criticism: NYTimes [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/sunday-review/maggie-haberman-twitter-donald-trump.html Maggie Haberman: Why I Needed to Pull Back From Twitter] <blockquote>Twitter has stopped being a place where I could learn things I didn’t know, glean information that was free from errors about a breaking news story or engage in a discussion and be reasonably confident that people’s criticisms were" to the "See Also" section of /Twitter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50197&oldid=50194
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tantek__ !tell benwerd re: Haberman "doesn't acknowledge any of those criticisms", did you miss this? "Twitter has stopped being a place where I could … engage in a discussion and be reasonably confident that people’s criticisms were in good faith."
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek__ what is access journalism?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "access journalism" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "access journalism is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_journalism
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@dixongexpat ↩️ @ChrisAldrich @EatPodcast @voxpelli Yes, tried that. Ended up just going WP + IndieWeb plugins (twitter.com/_/status/1020898510126964737)
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@webrocker ↩️ http://adactio.com / @adactio https://webgefrickel.de/blog / @webgefrickel http://jkphl.is / @jkphl http://seblog.nl / @Sebsel I think there's also a list on http://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1020969518095634432)
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@petermolnar ↩️ Go through the websites of people from here: https://indieweb.org/chat-names eg.: http://tantek.com/ / @t http://tantek.com/ / @aaronpk (twitter.com/_/status/1020977281563594752)
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petermolnar damn
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petermolnar ctrl+c ctrl+v fail
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@petermolnar ↩️ Let's try this again, without copy-paste fail: Go through the websites of people from here: https://indieweb.org/chat-names http://tantek.com/ / @t https://aaronparecki.com/ / @aaronpk (twitter.com/_/status/1020978028057423872)
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jgmac1106 good morning all
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Implementing Microsub yourself (part 1)" https://publog.stuifzandapp.com/posts/810 (from https://publog.stuifzandapp.com/posts/811)
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sknebel good morning!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ What @petermolnar said would work. You go to https://indieweb.org/chat-names and you can click on each name. Not sure if everyone lists their Twitter handle..but you will get everyone’s IRC name and links to blogs that have webmentions. Fooled around with this… http://jgregorymcverry.com/4812-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1021002074920824834)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I see you are in Germany. Hope you are able to make it to either IndieWebCamp Nuremberg or IndieWebCamp Berlin. Gonna try to do Berling…but need to get travel approved/find funds. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4821-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1021016199247908866)
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@_marcusherrmann ↩️ Yeah, I missed @IndieWebCampDE last time because I attended a workshop at the same time. But I'll take the next opportunity to go there. (twitter.com/_/status/1021016693320151041)
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@fatbusinessman ↩️ Looks like the protocol itself doesn’t deal with the spam problem, but there are a few extensions in the works: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-faq#How_does_this_solve_the_spam_problem (twitter.com/_/status/1021031592611983360)
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@MarcoZehe ↩️ After reading this, I'll update my blogs to support web mentions in the next couple of days. #webmentions #indieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1021052493600645120)
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tantek !tell gRegorLove_ thanks for the WP link, I'd heard of the concept but not by that label, looks like the article could use some improvment
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@_marcusherrmann With all that current @alistapart-inducted buzz around #webmention it would be great if big influential sites like @smashingmag or @Real_CSS_Tricks would implement them. To support the momentum and make the technique and #IndieWeb even more visible (twitter.com/_/status/1021058712717254657)
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[chrisaldrich] What is backdrop?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "backdrop" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "backdrop is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@mrshll1001 Hey #indieweb folk, I'm finally going to implement receiving #webmention and wondering about design patterns. Should I create a new Webmention entity or should source urls be stored in Post objects? https://mrshll.uk/p/1167 (twitter.com/_/status/1021069857406824448)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ ...it’s a shame that some of your work is out of print and not available in e-book versions. If you have the publishing rights, can get them, or your publisher will allow it, I’m happy to help create ebook versions as its something I happen to [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2018/07/16/an-indieweb-podcast-episode-8-interflux/?replytocom=61895#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1021078232999723008)
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@GR36 It’s a strange feeling when I think my blog is finally doing what I want it to do. It’s as IndieWeb as I can make it and I’m actually enjoying posting again. (twitter.com/_/status/1021080808109625344)
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[kim_landwehr] I setting up to use Indiepaper and I can’t seem to figure out where they are saved too. What url do I add as a source in Aperature.
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pstuifzand [kim_landwehr], the url that you should use to connect indiepaper and aperture is https://aperture.p3k.io/
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dougbeal kim_landwehr: Just point it at your site, I think it picks up the microsub server specified by your website, and saves to a Read Later channel
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dougbeal kim_landwehr: indiepaper.io will log into your site and get the token, and generate the bookmarklet for a browser
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pstuifzand this video from aaronpk shows how he uses it with Quill, but the idea is the same: https://aaronparecki.com/2018/07/08/15/aperture-indieauth
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] I just implemented an IndieAuth server for Aperture, which sounds crazy but it's actually pretty cool. Now you can log in to apps like https://indiepaper.io and they can post content directly into a private channel! If you have an Aperture accoun... https://aaronparecki.com/2018/07/08/15/photo.png [video]
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tantek whoa fresh silo quit minutes ago! https://www.instagram.com/p/BlizEAFlLOq
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tantek silo-quits << 2018-07-22 {{cygnoir}} quit [[Instagram]] with this last post: [https://www.instagram.com/p/BlizEAFlLOq Thank you for viewing! I'll continue to share at cygnoir.net. See you there.]
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Loqi ok, I added "2018-07-22 {{cygnoir}} quit [[Instagram]] with this last post: [https://www.instagram.com/p/BlizEAFlLOq Thank you for viewing! I'll continue to share at cygnoir.net. See you there.]" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50225&oldid=50221
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@MarcoInEnglish Just installed two plugins that should make my site https://www.marcozehe.de work much better with the proper #Webmention standard. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1021106997524140033)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ To answer a question like that best to ask in the -dev channel on chat, https://chat.indieweb.org, https://indiewebcamp.slack.com or IRC. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4837-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1021107027127488513)
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[kim_landwehr] Thanks guys that helped a lot
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@schnarfed ↩️ we'd need more details, hard to debug over Twitter. mind jumping into #indieweb-wordpress on Freenode IRC and ask @dshanske? or feel free to file an issue with plugin versions and details. (twitter.com/_/status/1021147482087088128)
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[kiai] what is synfig
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "synfig" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "synfig is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[kiai] Synfig is open-source 2D animation software available on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
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Loqi ok
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/girlziplocked/status/1021074148796391424?s=19
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@girlziplocked I’ve been on twitter for a long time now and it’s clear that it’s not really helping us in our struggle to get free since the platform is designed to facilitate maximum distraction and to channel attention away from crises. I’d like to help build what comes next. (twitter.com/_/status/1021074148796391424)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @girlziplocked This is part of what we are working on at http://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1021158737095155713)
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@OffBeatMammal ↩️ Mastadon seems interesting, but somewhat steep on-boarding. #Indieweb self hosting and distributed content breaks the stranglehold of FB etc (but discovery/community harder). Lots of good 'seeds' but hard to germinate (twitter.com/_/status/1021174365805686784)
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