#indieweb 2018-12-17
2018-12-17 UTC
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jacky but this is if a user provides input at http://x.com, we do some work and realize it's https:// but don't update the collected URI/user info
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[kim_landwehr] yes [sknebel] I can log into aperture and that the microsub endpoint at the bottom of the page.
# [kim_landwehr] I did try logging in using both https and http and both come up with the same error.
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# jacky [kim_landwehr]: try changing the URI there from http://wrke.online to https://wrke.online/
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# [kim_landwehr] I tried all suggested updates, nothing seems to help
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# [Marco] why is everyone so happy running with schema.org …
# [Marco] Unfortunately the article is in German language only but I'm linking it anyways for good measure: https://www.lifepr.de/inaktiv/deutsche-zentrale-fuer-tourismus-ev-dzt/Open-Data-in-Deutschland-Diskussion-eines-gemeinsamen-Weges/boxid/733489
# [Marco] Just read an article about the "Open Data in Germany" discussion in terms of Tourism … and of course everyone involved agrees on using schema.org as the technical basis (whatever that means 😄 ).
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# [Vincent] Morning Indieweb!
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[jgmac1106] Morning
# [jgmac1106] Can anyone send me a like to here: https://indieweb.org/toolbuilder-badge and post a link. Need the markup example for a blog post
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[eddie] !tell jgmac1106 https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/12/17/1/like/
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# [jgmac1106] Thx eddie
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Loqi [jgmac1106]: [eddie] left you a message 25 minutes ago: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/12/17/1/like/
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# Tin2 Hi there . There is no way to edit the Indiweb wiki without having indielogin ?
# kisik21 commentpara.de maybe?
# kisik21 if it's not banned as cheating your way in
# [jgmac1106] No, anonymity is important... And we have rollbacks... Never had any malicious edits... And people don't usually ask how first
# kisik21 so, yeah, Tin2, you can use commentpara.de
# kisik21 it provides anonymous/pseudonymous IndieAuth
# [jgmac1106] @tin2 is there a page you want help editing? Or better yet adding IndieAuth to your site so you can sign in? Happy to help either route
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# Tin2 interesting, thanks . I wanted to edit Known page to add a tip on how to reset local password (some days ago I asked here and now I figured out how)
# Tin2 I still havent set up my site. But it'll surely have IndieAuth when its done
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# [jgmac1106] @tin2 if you are on Known much of this is built in. Check your plugins on site configuration.
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[tantek] Marco, re schema apparent acceptance - because schema has done just enough openwashing to appear open to people who don't bother investigating or don't know the history to know that actually it was all invented by a small team (mostly one guy) at Google, and forced upon other search engines, and still effectively controlled by Google.
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# jgmac1106 I couldn’t find a repo to this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.testpilot.notes&rdid=org.mozilla.testpilot.notes but it might be interesting to see if someone with [swentel]’s skills could also make it a micropub client…or syndicate…though with end to end encryption…not sure possible
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barnabywalters heya Loqi, any messages for me?
# barnabywalters indeed!
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# barnabywalters greetings sknebel!
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gRegorLove o/ barnabywalters
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# barnabywalters hi gRegorLove, tantek!
# barnabywalters what is Indieweb Challenge?
# Loqi The IndieWeb Challenge is to collectively ship something IndieWeb-related that benefits the community, people in addition to yourself, every day of December! https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Challenge
# barnabywalters thanks Loqi!
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# barnabywalters hmm, every day in December might be a bit of a challenge, as we’re already half way through and I’m all sorts of busy for the rest of the month… a new year’s resolution to do some work on my site might be a bit more manageable
# gRegorLove We've got that too: https://indieweb.org/2019-01-01-commitments
# barnabywalters I was chatting with a friend about Instagram, which led me to look at ownyourgram, which led me to micropub.rocks, which led me to try to figure out how my site actually works again so I can implement all the cool micropub work the community’s been working on recently
# barnabywalters and I also finally want to implement some of my tag page ideas which have been slowly developing
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# [jgmac1106] Never thought about tag page...made onr on my bookmark website on blog I added common tags to my footer
# barnabywalters my idea is to not only have a /tags page (which I already had but broke), but more importantly to make each invididual tag page (/tags/tag) customisable. By default the pages show a list of posts tagged with that tag, but I want to be able to customise the page title, add text about the topic, “pin” particularly important posts related to that tag, etc
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# barnabywalters I had the problem that my website contains years worth of quite interesting and useful information about a large variety of topics, which are easy enough to search via external search engines, but extremely difficult to explore other than in reverse-chronological order
# [jgmac1106] Been a day of discussing collections
# barnabywalters aaronpk: nice, I should have guessed you’d already implemented any given feature I think up ;) do you have a nice example of a tag page with some pinned posts?
# barnabywalters aaronpk: interesting, so you do almost exactly what I’m thinking about, except that the tag page text is a post by itself. How do these posts fit into the rest of your site? do they pop up in you other feeds? are they authored using the same UI, and maybe set to “hidden” or a different post type or category or something?
# barnabywalters nice!
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[cleverdevil] That's a pretty big siloquit
# [cleverdevil] Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but - https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689946571685888
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@waltmossberg 1/ Some personal news: I've decided to quit Facebook around the end of the year. I am doing this - after being on Facebook for nearly 12 years - because my own values and the policies and actions of Facebook have diverged to the point where I’m no longer comfortable there. (twitter.com/_/status/1074689946571685888)
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# [jgmac1106] That's cool. Was talking this morning about playing with flex-grow on h-entries... Like what if post on a tag page with most likes got biggest size in box
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# [cleverdevil] Indeed.
# [cleverdevil] Mossberg has quite a following.
# @waltmossberg 2/ I am also quitting Facebook-owned Instagram and Messenger. I will remain on Twitter, and will continue to communicate via iMessage, email and SMS text with those who have my email address and/or phone number. Obviously, people who follow me here can also reach me via DM. (twitter.com/_/status/1074689947242848257)
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# Loqi business models are ways to offer indieweb products and or services that users pay for both for their own benefit, and in support an open indie web https://indieweb.org/business-models
# [tantek] business-models << https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074763698407960581
# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074763698407960581" to the "See Also" section of /business-models https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54815&oldid=46756
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# [tantek] Wow this thread has lots of gems if anyone wants to help go through and add people from there to /silo-quits and many other criticisms! https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689946571685888
# @waltmossberg 1/ Some personal news: I've decided to quit Facebook around the end of the year. I am doing this - after being on Facebook for nearly 12 years - because my own values and the policies and actions of Facebook have diverged to the point where I’m no longer comfortable there. (twitter.com/_/status/1074689946571685888)
# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689946571685888" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54816&oldid=54772
# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689947242848257" to the "See Also" section of /silo-sponsorship https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54817&oldid=23100
# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689947242848257" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54819&oldid=54816
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# [jgmac1106] Awesome. We need that. Kind of pissed how silent social justice folks have been on the moves.... "We need it to mobile... Or it provides access to underrepresented people" is not acceptable on a platform that not only allow hate to be weaponized but then use it themselves
# [jgmac1106] Down with Tomo!
# [cleverdevil] Someone should inform Walk Mossberg about Micro.blog 🙂
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# [tantek] came up with another item for two days ago https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-12-15#t1544905195852900
# [tantek] 5. the sooner you can post about positive things that you personally observed or especially participated in (actions, events, accomplishments), the more details you will remember, and the more you reinforce your own short-term (then longterm) memory of the thing! Since that value decreases as the time since the thing happened increases, post the about the most recent thing first to get the details down, the the next most recent thing etc.
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