#indieweb 2024-05-11
2024-05-11 UTC
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cophee [tantek]: That happened to my art account and it got permanently deleted ☹️
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# cophee capjamesg[d] I've made a Google Form for the questions!
# cophee and please let me know if the indieweb/decentralised social media section explanation isn't clear or is missing anything important!!
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# cophee [tantek]: I think the worst part of it was losing the drawings I did when I was a teen – the account was 6 years old and really showed my growth as an artist
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capjamesg IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf will be starting in 15 minutes! https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/indiewebcamp-d%C3%BCsseldorf-2024-lPSJYTuqCdL2
# cophee capjamesg[d]: AHHH I'm having dinner atm!!!
# capjamesg Etherpad for the site demos event: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/DusseldorfSiteIntros2024
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pcarrier [edit] https://jkphl.is
# pcarrier (https://jkphl.is/index.php old homepage)
# pcarrier [edit] (https://jkphl.is/index.php old homepage)
# pcarrier [edit] https://jkphl.is
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mind mapping software" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "mind mapping software is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# cophee Hopping on in a bit!!
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# cophee Oh I think it just froze!!
# cophee capjamesg[d]: Ooo ok!!
# cophee I think it disconnected
# cophee OHHH
# cophee the passcode is 513638
# cophee for the meeting
# cophee No worries!!
# IWDiscord <cophee>
# cophee For future reference, it can be fount here ^
# cophee yes hahaha
# cophee by the way, the caption's in German for the zoom for some reason
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# stefan1 :)
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GWG Session 1: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whatwhere
# capjamesg What goes where session: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whatwhere
# cophee this is awesome
# cophee yes! can hear perfectly
# cophee When I think of a feed that aggregates website content + allows interactivity, the first thing that comes to mind is Tumblr
# cophee that is true
# cophee i feel the same way about blogging vs social media
# cophee tumblr had a bit of both i think before it fell off
# cophee also what about private vs public posts (e.g. separation between professional or private feeds)
# cophee i see
# cophee @pcarrier for example people making private instagram accounts where only authenticated viewers can see
# cophee I think a lot of people are more content consumers than producers on Instagram
# cophee A website my partner + I are working on has a shortened version of our content in the home page
# cophee https://beretegg.page/
# cophee but i think i agree with the short posts belonging to the home page
# cophee or on our own page
# cophee it's similar to how people post images without captions on Instagram
# cophee but like to use it just to keep a log of their daily lives
# cophee capjamesg[d]: yes! I think a lot of people I know use it for the temporal aspect
# cophee as well
# cophee HAHAHA
# cophee justifiable
# capjamesg See https://chat.indieweb.org/2024-04-07 for discussion.
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# pcarrier [edit] "everybody" has Meta accounts though (but the people who've already decided not to use their services). I don't want to sign up / confirm-email-or-the-like on every website I'd consume protected content from. I also don't want to deal with SAML/OIDC/…, neither as a visitor nor as a publisher
# cophee pcarrier[d]: would indieauth help with this?
# cophee that is so true
# cophee pcarrier[d]: i was discussing this with my partner and he said that it would be hard to get normal people on board
# cophee + results from my survey from friends also show that the complicated part of setting up a website might be a bar of entry from them
# cophee is it possible to simplify the process of creating/hosting a website with everything in one package?
# pcarrier add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register wing.ident.me with an E-mail address in 1 minute
# pcarrier [edit] add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register wing.ident.me with an pseudonym + E-mail address in 1 minute
# cophee pcarrier[d]: that would be v cool
# pcarrier [edit] add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register https://wing.ident.me with an pseudonym + E-mail address in 1 minute
# cophee my partner's in tech as well and he said that if making a pseudonym/website is as easy as making an email address, it would work a lot better for the normal folks
# cophee yes!
# cophee a lot of people love it since it's so easy
# cophee i have no idea hahaha
# cophee but then that also poses the threat of if the service shuts down
# cophee yeah...
# cophee what if there's an indieweb ver of it?
# cophee pcarrier[d]: I guess so!
# cophee capjamesg[d] I wrote the characters/letters on my iPad on Vectornator and then exported it as an SVG to my computer
# cophee And then used CSS stroke path animations!
# cophee Only the fading in/out for different languages was done using some JQuery
# cophee I like this one: https://mylinks.ai/cafeclub as an alternative to linktree
# cophee I used it for my old uni soc and it shows a preview of our Instagram posts
# cophee [edit] I like this one: https://mylinks.ai/cafeclub as an alternative to linktree
# cophee if it has microformats that would be awesome 😆
# cophee having the ability to aggregate all your feeds on a home page + maybe even publish to it
# cophee [edit] if it has microformats that would be awesome 😆
# cophee having the ability to aggregate all your feeds on a home page + even publish to it
# cophee [tantek]: 100%, I just use that for my university society since we didn't have a website
# pcarrier jeeesus, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
# pcarrier [edit] wooow, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
# pcarrier [edit] wooow, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
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# cophee pcarrier[d]: that's bigggggg
# cophee for a site with two links
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# cophee sucks that twitter shut down its api
# cophee would've been so cool
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# cophee what about anonymous comment boxes for people without webmentions + let them add an email address or name if they want to
# cophee might be harder to moderate but can potentially ban from IP
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# stefan1 on the topic of styling webmeentions. This one is about sidenotes... but could be comments aswell: https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2023/09/12/nuclear-anchored-sidenotes/
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# cophee that is awesome!!!!
# cophee Oh thank you
# cophee I'm clapping too 🫡 👏
# dletorey What time are you finishing today in Düsseldorf
# cophee i'm listening in and out and just got a cms working on my website 😄
# cophee next i will try to implement webmentions
# cophee thank you!!!
# cophee thanks loqi woot indeed
# cophee capjamesg[d]: 😂
# cophee HAHAH i like the announcements
# cophee I wish I can speak German 😔
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# cophee capjamesg[d]: when I was in Japan, I tried for 6 months to learn the correct pronunciation of Brot 😭 my German friends tried their best to teach me
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# cophee [qubyte]: I love international communities! Sadly we didn't have any Italians in my country town region
# cophee Thank you so much capjamesg[d]
# cophee [qubyte]: HAHAHAH the good old akiba
# cophee capjamesg[d]: Loqi 🥹 💓
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# dletorey Floor 2?
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# [Al_Abut] Omg, layering in the IWC with my usual Sat morning routine of watching English soccer is so exciting and confusing
# [Al_Abut] I think James just scored a goal
# [Al_Abut] Readwise is great - I’m a paid user of their Reader app, which is separate from just the focused annotation tool.
# [Al_Abut] It’s so powerful with tags and summarization that it’s basically become my bookmarking datastore.
# [Al_Abut] Question for [capjamesg] - could you send a book page a webmention? In a sort of “I’m also reading this book” kind of way.
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# stefan1 here´s a library app with a shiny bookshelf for inspiration :) https://www.koingosw.com/products/librarianpro/
# [Al_Abut] Looks just like the old Delicious Library Mac app
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[dominik] Roy Tang’s Discworld page: https://roytang.net/topics/discworld/
# [Al_Abut] Mike Haynes has a great example of a book library in Wordpress: https://crashthearcade.com/book-list/
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# cophee No webmentions yet but capjamesg[d] just made a post about the CMS 🫡
# cophee Gotta head to bed now though! 1:11AM here
# cophee was really cool hearing about the progress in IndieWeb
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[KevinMarks] Reading scrollback, omg.lol is better than LinkTree
# cophee [KevinMarks]: I LOVE THAT
# cophee so much personality
# cophee capjamesg[d]: 🥹 Thank you
# [KevinMarks] And more indieweb friendly. Also they have a lot of extra nice stuff, like a mastodon instance
# sanzarote Hey people, cool to see that this channel exists. I don't know what's well-known here, but here's an old personal site (not of mine): http://autofish.net/
# sanzarote it's even http only
# [Al_Abut] Are you sure? There’s no audio
# [Al_Abut] The audio is muted
# [Al_Abut] Ah, we’re back
# [Al_Abut] No problem! Enjoying the radio show ;)
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# [Al_Abut] Great point about the disappearing stories on WhatsApp - that’s also why the younger generation felt safe sharing online with like Snapchat
# [Al_Abut] ephemeral distribution is to avoid bullying
# [Al_Abut] Tracy made a great point at one of the HWC’s that the indieweb principles assume you’re ok with putting your real identity online for the whole world to see, not everyone is comfortable with that
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# [Al_Abut] More like an implicit social understanding.
# [Al_Abut] Rather than a formal principle
# [Al_Abut] Good talking point for the upcoming popup on social norms: https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/bonus-online-homebrew-website-club-social-norms-in-the-indieweb-G05XdSfUkeR8
# [Al_Abut] Bye and thanks for a stimulating discussion! 👋
# Loqi A pseudonym is literally a "false name" and is one way in which people may choose not to reveal their true identity on the internet and IRL; IndieWeb principles do not require the use of real name or true identity at any point, and authentication and authorization are as easily accomplished with a pseudonym as with a real name https://indieweb.org/pseudonym
# Loqi GitHub is a specialized content hosting silo for code, issues, comments, and static content that has some aspects of a commons, and through free domain mapping, a content hosting service as well https://indieweb.org/Github
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# dletorey Im in the holiday inn bar look for the red hat
# dletorey Another reason to use Niu tab for tomorrow is the WiFi is open Holiday inn you need to be a guest to connect
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[tantek] Hey folks, we will be meeting for IndieWebCamp Create Day at 9am tomorrow Sunday 2024-05-12 near the far corner of the Niu hotel lobby at the long tall table with outlets that has wall couch seating on one side, and high chair seating on the other. Get there earlier (8am or so) if you want a choice of where to sit!
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# dletorey Is anyone going for food
# dletorey Cool I assume this is going on in the #indieweb-chat which I don’t have permission to see
# dletorey capjamesg[d]: Read my mind #billyNoMates
# dletorey capjamesg[d]: Banging
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# [Stefan_Rudersd] oh getting food sounds great! I´d love to join in. Can´t make it 19:30 though because my hotel is 20min away. Can you drop me a location here? I´d come there asap
# [Stefan_Rudersd] perfect! Thanks!
# [Stefan_Rudersd] Thanks [capjamesg] I´ll hurry up but will take a bit longer. don´t wait for me with ordering
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# capjamesg We now have a clickable image of today's sessions: https://jamesg.blog/iwc/dus/
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