#indieweb 2026-08-12

2026-08-12 UTC
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[tantek]
lol that's so real
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boredgargoyle
lecaseus[d]: Try the Tufte-viz skill to inspire your AI. In general for data visualization Edward Tufte is a god
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[tantek]
nope nope nope
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[tantek]
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lecaseus
boredgargoyle[d]: Thanks 😄 but I try to keep my use of AI to a minimum especially with major decisions. This way I can still practice my own skill. Also I'm starting to feel like a hypocrite for being in the no AI webring lol
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katx
sooooo silent... everybody works on their website?
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[Murray]
I mean I'm working on *a* website, just not my own 😅 Imagine there are a few folks lurking though
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katx
i forgot some folks make actual money on website making ;)
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[tantek]
katx, indieweb chats are fairly "slow" chats without the typical "instant response" urgency of say, social media, or Discord, or other high-twitchiness places. perhaps we can make that more clear on the /discuss page
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[tantek]
what is discuss
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Loqi
💬 Join #indieweb discussions via Discord, Slack, web chat, or IRC, (they are all bridged!) with focused channels for developers, events, meta topics, and WordPress — please keep chats brief and relevant to the IndieWeb community across all indieweb chat channels https://indieweb.org/discuss
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katx
[tantek] got ya
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[tantek]
katx, it's pretty funny because you're not the first to wonder why things are "quiet". if you search the logs you'll see every month or so we get someone who says "hello?" or "anyone here?" as their first chat and then if they don't get an instant (like within 1-2 min) response they give up because they think lack of instant response means something is "dead".
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katx
every channel has its own specifics. i came back to irc after 20 years and need to figure everything out again.
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[tantek]
exactly! the assumption that all chats are either "instant response" or "oh well they must be dead" is a false assumption. there's a whole spectrum
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[tantek]
I think it's gotten worse (more people making that assumption) over the years due to social media.
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[tantek]
something that many of us here feel great relief from leaving
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katx
funny you mention that. one of the best days in my life would be when all waled gardens have simply collapsed.
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katx
walled*
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[tantek]
you don't need to wait for them to collapse. you can exit them any time you wish.
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katx
i have, not fully though. there are dozens of communities i like to be a part of present *only* on facebook. making people switch to, say, phpbb forums is impossible these days. unless fb seize to exist :)
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[tantek]
what are silo-quits
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Loqi
silo quits are public statements by individuals announcing they have quit posting on or using various silos with no intention to return. Sometimes people take a temporary break or soft quit, AKA a social media break or social media detox https://indieweb.org/silo-quits
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[tantek]
^ if you remember what dates you have left various silos (especially if you blogged about leaving them!) feel free to add yourself to the year clustered/sorted examples there
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katx
silo = big walled social media?
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[capjamesg]
What is a silo?
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Loqi
A silo or web content hosting silo (AKA walled garden), in the context of the IndieWeb, is a centralized web site (like most social media) typically owned by a for-profit corporation that stakes some claim to content contributed to it and restricts access in some way (has walls) https://indieweb.org/silo
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katx
so i left all of them.
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doesnm
<[tantek]> ^ if you remember what dates you have left various silos (especially if you blogged about leaving them!) feel free to add yourself to the year clustered/sorted examples there <- i left discord in summer 2023 :)
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[tantek]
yeah that counts
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/6EUccFK2vZSh
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club - Eastern is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/1lxwqbDsC1dL
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lecaseus
Loqi: TIL a new term, but I'm not sure if I can ever commit to permanently deleting my social media since that's mainly how my friends and family contact me
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lecaseus
Looking at various statistic articles, the Philippines is always gonna be somewhere in the top 10 for social media addiction
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lecaseus
Btw, can anyone tell me if I can mention people outside of discord?
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[tantek]
What is discuss?
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Loqi
💬 Join #indieweb discussions via Discord, Slack, web chat, or IRC, (they are all bridged!) with focused channels for developers, events, meta topics, and WordPress — please keep chats brief and relevant to the IndieWeb community across all indieweb chat channels https://indieweb.org/discuss
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[tantek]
See that for how to mention people ^
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lecaseus
[tantek] Thanks, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right lol
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