#dev 2018-01-04
2018-01-04 UTC
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loqi.me created /posting_from_mobile (+40) "prompted by [chrisaldrich] and redirect added by [chrisaldrich]" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] I think twitter only autolinks if it starts with a letter (as #1 was autolinking)
# [kevinmarks] #dt_2018_01_04 maybe
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sebastiangreger.net edited /Bookmarklet (+416) "/* Indieweb-related bookmarklets */ +Android Share "bookmarklet"" (view diff)
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk: IndieAuth.net section 5 is Authentication, but 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 all say Authorization. I’m thinking those should say Authentication? It tripped me up because I focused more on the subtitles than the titles so I found myself in Authentication when I was looking for Authorization
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# [eddie] IndieAuth Authentication/Authorization: When a client is making the initial request to the endpoint, if required params aren’t found such as client_id, redirect_uri, etc. What should the endpoint return? Does it follow standard OAuth 2.0 rules such as the error response section of this page?: https://www.oauth.com/oauth2-servers/authorization/the-authorization-response/
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# [kevinmarks] interesting that people are saying "disable javascript" in response to Spectre
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@licuende Freaking out right now: "As a proof-of-concept, JavaScript code was written that, when run in the Google Chrome browser, allows JavaScript to read private memory from the process in which it runs" https://spectreattack.com/spectre.pdf (twitter.com/_/status/948964367487422464)
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# [kevinmarks] Firefox has pushed a build disabling some features too
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[cleverdevil] I've been thinking about this a lot, with regard to the web. It seems to me that JavaScript should be delivered by browsers using a trust model similar to that of apps on iOS or Android.
# [kevinmarks] turning off SharedArrayBuffer is pretty severe for WebASM
# [cleverdevil] When you visit a website that needs JavaScript, the browser should inform the user that the website is requesting permission to run JavaScript, and the user should have to grant it.
# [cleverdevil] I am not sure my preferred browser allows that, actually.
# [cleverdevil] Meaning, if you disable JavaScript, I think its just *off*.
# [cleverdevil] Maybe!
# [cleverdevil] My current solution is a heavy dose of ad/tracking blockers both at the browser, and on my home network.
# [kevinmarks] chrome will let you turn it off by default, and get a widget in the address bar that lets you re-enable site by site
# [cleverdevil] Cool. I need to experiment with this.
# [cleverdevil] Yup, just verified, Safari doesn't offer JavaScript as a per-website preference.
# [cleverdevil] Its global.
# [cleverdevil] it offers many other settings per-website.
# [cleverdevil] Hmm... I do know a few.
# [kevinmarks] I am kind of an android developer, though I haven't done much recently
# [kevinmarks] my reflex these days would be to PWA rather than app
# [kevinmarks] Ben made one
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Loqi Android is an open source operating system for mobile devices (AOSP) combined with a set of proprietary cloud services provided by Google https://indieweb.org/Android
# [kevinmarks] no wait, that's the other way around
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tantek.com edited /Android (+248) "clean up a bit, add indieweb relevance to dfn, stub indieweb examples" (view diff)
# Loqi mobile, in the context of the indieweb could refer to mobile apps, mobile use-cases, or being mobile friendly https://indieweb.org/mobile
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mobile posting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "mobile posting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# tantek.com moved /Posting_from_mobile_devices to /mobile_posting "shorter"
# Loqi ok, I added "[[iOS]]" to the "See Also" section of /mobile_posting
# Loqi ok, I added "[[Android]]" to the "See Also" section of /mobile_posting
# tantek.com edited /Android (+493) "add ryan and ben since their info was on [[mobile posting]]" (view diff)
# Loqi Android is an open source operating system for mobile devices (AOSP) combined with a set of proprietary cloud services provided by Google, which some use to post to their IndieWeb sites https://indieweb.org/Android
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# Loqi mobile posting is the act of using a mobile device to post to a site, typically your own personal indieweb site https://indieweb.org/mobile_posting
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# tantek.com edited /100DaysOfIndieWeb (+492) "100 Days of Positive Doing Posting Days, move last year's to previously (until someone wants to re-up for this year!)" (view diff)
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tantek that page needs a bunch more clean-up (or maybe rescoping or splitting off a general 100Days page?) but I added mine for 2018: https://indieweb.org/100DaysOfIndieWeb#100_Days_of_Positive_Doing_Posting_Days
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# [eddie] abode-authentication-screen.png https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F8N8LS326/screen_shot_2018-01-04_at_2.06.36_pm.png?pub_secret=f630384e5b&name=Screen Shot 2018-01-04 at 2.06.36 PM.png
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grantcodes aaronpk: Monocle updates dont appear to have fixed the issues I had. Will open some GitHub issues for you ;)
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gRegorLove Interesting. I guess I'd misread the DMCA safe harbor stuff before. It doesn't appear there is any particular protection it provides if you're a content creator who posts copyrighted work.
# gRegorLove So someone could just go to your host and get you taken down?
# gRegorLove And it's at the host's discretion whether they contact you or not first
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aaronparecki.com edited /swag (+113) "move shirts to past, remove dead stickermule marketplace links" (view diff)
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# grantcodes New Together build online for those testing together.tpxl.io
# grantcodes Featuring new maps and channel editing (sort of :P)
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# [cleverdevil] grantcodes is this dupe photo thing a known issue? -> http://share.cleverdevil.io/gj5ql90AtU.png
# [cleverdevil] Or is that what you're talking about aaronpk?
# [cleverdevil] Hah
# grantcodes Yeah duplicates are a big thing
# grantcodes What aaronpk said
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aaronpk it does, but also matches the json keys 😂 https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=duplicate+photo&type=
# aaronpk here we go https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-12-23
# grantcodes Similar issue with a lot of name / content duplication. I see decent number of posts were perhaps the name is just a truncated version of the post or plaintext version or I think I've even seen Twitter friendly version appear vs indieweb versions (@handle changed to @website.com). I imagine it'll be hard to dedupe everything but the majority should be quite possible
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# [cleverdevil] I've just moved most of my subscriptions from my current reader into Monocle/Together to see how things go.
# grantcodes Yeah will do moving forward.
# [cleverdevil] One other thing, it'd be nice if everything was sorted in chronological order by publish date.
# [cleverdevil] Yeah, I think that's a nice fallback, but the problem then is that things can be out of sequence based upon when things happen.
# [cleverdevil] Anyway, having an option to view it either way would be good.
# [cleverdevil] The content/title dupes definitely are a thing, especially for microblog type content: http://share.cleverdevil.io/2LqbAPNfPt.png
# grantcodes I think it makes sense to insert newly followed content in based on the published date, when I had a channel that had a bit of content and added a new subscription it's annoying that the entire first page may become out of date content from that feed
# [cleverdevil] That's what I'm experiencing now.
# grantcodes After that though found date makes sense
# grantcodes Should be more or less chronological anyway
# aaronpk the microformats parsed version does not have the duplicate "name" https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwerd.io%2Fcontent%2Fstatusupdates%2F
# [cleverdevil] Maybe a Known thing?
# [cleverdevil] My site does it as well.
# [cleverdevil] Ah, gotcha.
# [cleverdevil] wat.
# [cleverdevil] Looks like a bug in Known, I am guessing.
# [cleverdevil] grantcodes have you considered doing URL unfurling?
# grantcodes It's going to be fun getting everyone to fix their feed markup
# [cleverdevil] Heh
# [cleverdevil] s/fun/impossible
# [cleverdevil] Gotta be practical, I think, and use some heuristics to massage things into what is expected.
# grantcodes There's an issue about url unfurling on GitHub. Don't think it's a priority yet
# [cleverdevil] Agreed.
# [cleverdevil] nods
# grantcodes What I do need to at least do is show reply-of, like-of etc in some way
# grantcodes It's not reply-of but you get the idea 😂
# [cleverdevil] Yeah, but still, overall its looking pretty great.
# [cleverdevil] Here's a little demo if anyone wants to take a look: http://share.cleverdevil.io/NYDDf8Lg4c.mp4
# grantcodes Commits / Pull requests accepted 😉 Probably the easiest major thing to help with is the card component that displays the post. Needs to handle all those other properties that I've not worked on yet
# [cleverdevil] It should likely just pick on its own, unless the user clicks some sort of "advanced" view.
# [cleverdevil] In Together, when you go through that interaction, it shows you a preview of a feed before you follow it.
# [cleverdevil] Good point.
# grantcodes What has become quite clear is those content filters that I set up in together are not that useful with microsub as is. Like in your video you clicked to load more reposts but that's not possible with microsub. But think it's more a ui thing that microsub spec thing
# [cleverdevil] I agree with that, aaronpk.
# grantcodes Yeah probably
# [cleverdevil] I will say, my Micro.blog JSON Feed looks pretty great in Together already: http://share.cleverdevil.io/2MPeQbzpJG.mp4
# grantcodes Definitely wanting a compressed UI for certain channels as well
# grantcodes That micro.blog feed does look good. Benefits of a consistently written feed 😜