#dev 2018-10-30

2018-10-30 UTC
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GWG Evening
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petermolnar I found an alternative to IFTTT, called Zapier, and, unlike IFTTT, it can do a chain of events instead of if-then, plus it can retrieve things like tweet url - it's a very nice tool to build syndication with. Read RSS, post to [set of social networks], do a webhook call in the end with the syndication urls payload, et viola.
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petermolnar still in testing though
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petermolnar oh. there's a catch, which I didn't get: free doesn't include multi-step automations, so no callback in the free account, and the next level is 25$/m, which is way more, than I'm willing to pay for :/
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petermolnar damn.
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[xavierroy] Zapier allows upto 2 events to be chained for the free tier. If you can host so.ething, Huginn is a good option
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[xavierroy] I use Zapier for some feed parsing and posting to a WP blog. The featured image takes up one event in the chain. ☹
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[jgmac1106] What is calm technology?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "calm technology" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "calm technology is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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petermolnar [xavierroy]: 2 events as init -> thing -> another thing or init -> thing ?
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petermolnar sorry, trigger -> action, or trigger -> action -> action
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petermolnar I've looked at Huggin, but I'm very close to permanent fatigue when I need to set up my own "apps" on each and every platform
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[Vincent] I’m using Zapier in the short term to plug holes in my indieweb implementation. By 2 events, it means “any 2 thing in a chain” So in your example “Init -> thing”.
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[Vincent] I’ve found Zapier to be much better technically than IFTTT for many things, but it does come with a price if you use more than 2 step Zaps. If you only want multi-step zaps for a short period you can sign up and cancel easily enough. I did that in the first month and they refunded me all my cash, no questions asked 🙂
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[xavierroy] I use a Goodreads RSS feed as input, retrieve image from feed and post it as featured image and create a new post on my WP blog with other data.
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[xavierroy] Trigger>Action>Action. Anything more than that, you need to shell out something
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[xavierroy] You could spin it up as a docker container
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petermolnar [Vincent]: thanks for the clarification
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snarfed hey swentel, how's bridgy fed been working for you recently? ok?
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swentel snarfed, haven't interacted with it anymore to be fair :)
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snarfed np!
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snarfed the main thing i still want to do is deliver posts, ie creates
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swentel although
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swentel wait
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swentel I did send a reply to pixelfed on mastodon
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swentel and it worked fine
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swentel so that's all good
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snarfed not sure if i want to still use the webmention trigger for that, though, or if i want to subscribe to sites' atom feeds and automatically deliver when i see a new post
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4xEUPVuv.jpg
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snarfed great!
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snarfed i tried to do something with pixelfed itself recently, and that failed, but i know they're not ready yet
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swentel yeah, here, https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/100954684339143604 - works fine :)
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Loqi [pixelfed] We made contact! The first federated communication between pixelfed instances was made today.We will be making an announcement tomorrow!
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swentel mm yeah, I tried replying there too
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swentel but there's still testing it
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swentel mm atom feeds subscription sounds nice
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swentel although I guess you have much in place already for webmentions
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swentel if there's no link it, it's a post I guess
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snarfed yeah, that's just post type discovery
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swentel you can also use a hub then of course (a use for bridgy superfeeder hehe)
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swentel the user needs to ping then of course
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snarfed yeah, i'd do it with superfeedr
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snarfed actually superfeedr falls back to polling, which is nice
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swentel so you don't have to periodially check
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swentel oh
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swentel didn't know
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swentel that's great really
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snarfed yup
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aaronpk thats the idea with watchtower too, once I add websub support anyway
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swentel I do wonder though how pixelfed for instance will behave if I just have a note without an image, as that doesn't really fit in their stream
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swentel maybe they will just ignore the post
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[kevinmarks] I noticed that pleroma and mastodon have invalid Atom feeds yesterday. I should write them bugs.
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[kevinmarks] At least mastodon has h-feed
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[kevinmarks] https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks/100981675940234614
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] @jalcine @kaniini @riking what pleroma returns by default is an invalid atom feed rather than html - is there some conneg jujitsu going on? http://www.feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpleroma.site%2Fnotice%2F7333058
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swentel hmm what's @self in granary ? can't find it immediately
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swentel (in context of twitter feed here)
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swentel I could test of course ...
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swentel right, all my stuff
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swentel ok, nvm :)
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jacky I mean my personal site has "invalid" Atom data
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jacky and like it's legit complaining over me escaping HTML
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jacky I'm debating just dropping XML-based stuff altogether since it's been the biggest pain for me tbh
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jacky (sans HTML, ofc lol)
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[kevinmarks] this was broken enough that unmung and granary didn't like it
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[kevinmarks] yeah, XML--
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[kevinmarks] This was in the context of me asking pleroma for h-feed
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@ChrisAldrich A cool looking reader project from @ilikebeans with ActivityPub. Would be cool to see integrated mf2 h-feeds or even mixing with Microsub to help bridge the Fediverse and IndieWeb efforts. His http://write.as project is fantastic looking too. https://boffosocko.com/2018/10/29/read-as/ (twitter.com/_/status/1057336828473237505)
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[tantek] did anyone notice in that GitHub blog post that they ask for comments via Twitter? https://indieweb.org/comments#Native_Comments
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