#dev 2018-11-27

2018-11-27 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Tantek++
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Loqi Tantek has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (82 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] Never thought about a background image in css mixing up meaning in html and design in css
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jgmac1106 !tell gRegorLove that what made me think of it. Was driving so couldn’t investiagte, but wondering if the way you use p-category is the same way Known marks up hashtags, just out of curiosity
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jacky anyone has an example of JF2 for h-event?
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jacky hmm actually
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jacky I might have to do some more processing on accepting h-event data
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gRegorLove xray should do jf2 I think?
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Loqi gRegorLove: jgmac1106 left you a message 1 hour, 55 minutes ago: that what made me think of it. Was driving so couldn’t investiagte, but wondering if the way you use p-category is the same way Known marks up hashtags, just out of curiosity
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gRegorLove http://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2F2018%2F11%2Fan-introduction-to-microformats%2F&pretty=true
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cjwillcock !tell Sim,[Sim] regarding your self-hosted site and some traffic spikes you are seeing -I had issues on a new self-hosted server at DO too. I run nginx on this server. I found that the access logs were slammed with repeating web-mention attempts. I disabled web-mentions, for a quick fix. Now after some time, I have found a missed something in my site's config, in nginx. Nginx passes .php
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cjwillcock files on to php-fpm. My try_files directive didn't include the query string, so the PHP-FPM didn't receive and GET params. Check for `try_files $uri $uri/ /index.php;` in your configs. If you find that, change to `try_files $uri $uri/ /index.php?$query_string`. It's a long shot, but it worked for me. Maybe we followed the same bad advice re: setting up nginx at DO.
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jjuran cjwillcock: Only the first part got recorded.
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cjwillcock hmm
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cjwillcock so break into chunks then - I can't tell where it got cut off. How to check?
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jjuran I don't know. I see two messages, the first ending in "Nginx passes .php".
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cjwillcock !tell Sim Nginx passes .php files on to php-fpm. My try_files directive didn't include the query string, so the PHP-FPM didn't receive and GET params. Check for `try_files $uri $uri/ /index.php;` in your configs. If you find it, change to `try_files $uri $uri/ /index.php?$query_string`. It's a long shot. Maybe we followed the same bad advice re: setting up nginx at DO.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cjwillcock jjuran: thank you
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cjwillcock hopefully that finds him okay
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jjuran you're welcome
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cjwillcock !tell Sim I see that you are using Ghost, so not PHP. If it goes through nginx, perhaps the $query_string remains relevant
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cjwillcock New release (beta): record your browsing history from Chrome onto your own server - https://cjwillcock.ca/2018/11/27/tab-quantizer-chrome-extension-beta/
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aaronpk whoa cooool
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aaronpk is there any documentation on what it takes to receive the data it sends?
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cjwillcock oh, I have the server script included in the repo there
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cjwillcock documented in php - as close as it gets I guess for today
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aaronpk ah cool. I hadn't clicked through yet cause I just assumed it was only the browser extension code
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aaronpk hm this is 404, is it private? https://code.cjwillcock.ca/experiments/tab-quantizer
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cjwillcock yes, private by default
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cjwillcock try again now
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cjwillcock whoops :)
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aaronpk sweet
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[eddie] wow that's cool!
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cjwillcock thanks guys! I've been using it at home & work daily since July 23 2018. I have about 8 Gigs of data that I need to do something with soon. And clean up after.
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cjwillcock Since I'll be looking at it again, it's a good time to share I guess
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cjwillcock for now, time to catch some z's. enjoy
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aaronpk omg 8gb??
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aaronpk my tab data is only ~150mb since April 2017, but i'm only storing a snapshot of current tabs, not the chronological history like yours
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Zegnat cjwillcock, that looks really nice. Going to have to try it out. Have you tested with Firefox or Chrome only?
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swentel hmm
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swentel snarfed, sorry to ping you, it's probably evening for you :)
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swentel just got at work heh
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swentel but do you see a request on fed.brid.gy for https://realize.be/notes/1665 by any chance ? Just trying to figure out if something went wrong on my end or not (the webmention is send, but nothing happened apparently)
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Loqi [swentel] Because 🥕 posting 🎣 emoji's 🐈 is 😏 fun, 🥐 Indigenous 👩‍💻 finally 🎶 supports 🐕 it! Great, right ?! 👍
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swentel haha
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swentel emoji, my god, why did I do that
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk If someone sends a webmention delete (where source is 410) to a webmention.io endpoint does it delete the webmention and/or ping the web hook?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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swentel [eddie], do you handle webmentions who don't get a 200 or 201 response ? as in try again later or so ?
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kisik21 !tell myfreeweb https://unrelenting.technology/replies/2018-11-26-22-34-48 - error couldnt render entry, something may be broken
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Greg] test
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[eddie] swentel webmention.io handles all of my webmentions. I just retrieve json blobs from the service
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[eddie] I believe webmention.io handles that
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swentel [eddie], oh, also the sending ?
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[eddie] Oh I send through Telegraph
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swentel ah ok
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[eddie] Which also handles the resending 🙂
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swentel aaah hehe
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swentel ok, need to monitor my send queue a bit more
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[eddie] ahhh gotcha. Yeah, one day I may build webmention handling into my site but for now I enjoy offloading that responsibility 🙂
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swentel tried sending one to fed.brid.gy - but nothing happend, although I stored a success, but I fear the response probably was a non 2xx
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[eddie] ohhh uh oh
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[eddie] lol
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swentel oh well, it's not that I that many followers yet there :)
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[eddie] Haha, Yeah I have 1: my mastodon social test account
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swentel heh, same here, although I /think/ ryan follows me too, but it's not reflected on the followers list
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[eddie] Yeah that’s the funny thing about Mastodon, because of it’s decentralized nature I think it only knows about followers on that instance
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swentel yep, looks like it indeed
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swentel I've seen people complaining about that in the queue, so it might get a solution one day
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swentel oh, looks like fed.brid.gy is erroring when sending a webmention, unless I'm doing something wrong
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GWG swentel, did you see my proposed venue/location search query?
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swentel GWG, I did, not sure when I would have time to start implementing that though
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swentel mostly in bugfixing modus now, first period I can focus again on new features will be mid december
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GWG swentel, just asking if it makes sense. I am set to fix some location bugs in my code and could add it concurrently
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GWG I am in no rush
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GWG I separate brainstorming and implementation
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swentel GWG, oh makes much sense to me
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swentel I think it offers more possibilities than trying todo reverse location on the phone
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swentel also, it would allow to just return of known venues
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swentel and possibly cache them
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swentel so picking a venue/location can go really fast
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GWG Exactly.
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GWG The other property I added to my config query is q, which is a list of all the q values that would be accepted
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GWG As an alternative to the configuration settings
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swentel oh, right
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swentel mm makes sense too
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GWG swentel, if you could ask the server what it supports, that would dictate what fields you display
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GWG We already have a proposal for post type support
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swentel now I might possibly be doing requests which would potentially not work
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GWG Exactly
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GWG I may add the proposal as well
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GWG But I will have the location query available, and someday I will get venues working
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swentel might be a good thing to work on during the holidays end of year
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swentel I have zero integration on the drupal side re: location or venus
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swentel well
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swentel except for storing a location
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swentel but I don't do anything useful with it right now
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GWG I have a stub
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swentel checkin isn't supported either
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GWG I consider a venue to be the equivalent of a bookmark for a location
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swentel And I think I ignore all checkin posts in indigenous too (at least at, the microsub server then)
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GWG swentel, added to the query for supported vocabulary issue on the matter of querying for properties and queries
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GWG I don't do supported vocabulary yet, but will in future
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GWG It's a two pronged process
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GWG I need to code for two different plugin lists
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swentel two ?
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GWG Micropub has built in support for post types and the Post Kinds plugin has support for more
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GWG So, if you install both, it needs to address that
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GWG It already does this for q=source. There's a barebones implementation in Micropub, but if you install Post Kinds, it returns the extra properties it knows about
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GWG So I have to maintain two sets of code that do the same thing
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swentel aah right
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GWG I usually try to enhance in parallel though
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GWG But sometimes I lose track of which is which
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swentel heh, I can imagine
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GWG I like the flexibility though
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GWG So Micropub has only a minimal implementation
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GWG And filters allow enhancements
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swentel wordpress filters is what allows plugins to extend on eachother right ?
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swentel or enchance/change etc
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GWG Correct
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GWG So, I filter the query response and can hook into it
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GWG Where to put things is always a question
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swentel hehe yeah
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swentel I want to refactor at some point on the drupal module
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swentel I almost have 100% test coverage, so that will be without fear
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GWG I need to do better testing
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GWG Micropub has great test coverage due to snarfed being involved, but I find designing tests a challenge
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GWG I need to do more basic tests
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kisik21 swentel: I got the tags issue with Indigenous. It somehow posts categories as "category[]" property, not "category". Check for duplicate [] on your side. As for emoji, my endpoint does not seem to receive any content.
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kisik21 swentel: do you happen to use JSON when sending Emoji? My endpoint doesn't support JSON.
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Zegnat category[] sounds right if you are sending multiple categories
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Zegnat That’s what arrays look like in form encoding
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GWG aaronpk, was it you who had a script for getting location out of Gogo?
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GWG Never mind, found it
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GWG https://github.com/aaronpk/GoGo-WiFi-to-Geoloqi
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Loqi [aaronpk] GoGo-WiFi-to-Geoloqi: Send the in-flight GPS tracking data from flights with GoGo WiFi to your Geoloqi account
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GWG I love when I read code and see debugger, remove for production
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cjwillcock zegnat: I have not tested with Firefox. The code has 'chrome' there in a few places, so I am expecting it's not portable as is now.
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Zegnat It actually is. IIRC Firefox specifically supports the `chrome` object where the API matches up
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kisik21 Zegnat: python's cgi module handles lists natively
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kisik21 And this list arrived as category[][], seemingly
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kisik21 Which is weird
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Zegnat That does sound weird
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Zegnat I don’t know Python
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kisik21 I know Python
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Zegnat I can only say that the HTTP request body containing `category[]` is correct ;)
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kisik21 Is it correct to send category[]=tag only once but use []?
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kisik21 Also Quill handles multiple tags correctly I think...
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Zegnat Interesting question, kisik21. My first thought was that yes, it is allowed. But it isn’t actually specified by the Micropub spec
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cjwillcock zegnat: good to know! thank you. I will review later, after my after workday
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Zegnat Probably worth filing a spec bug on for clarification
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kisik21 Zegnat: Isn't it handled by some common specification for query strings?
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Zegnat No
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Zegnat But if you find a common specification for x-www-form-urlencoded we’d love to know ;)
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Zegnat Ugh, looks like the fragment identifiers on the HTML spec changed again so the x-www-form-urlencoded reference within the micropub spec isn’t even pointing to the right part anymore
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Zegnat The actual standard: https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#urlencoded-parsing
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sknebel I personally would just accept "prop[]" and "prop" equally on a server
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Zegnat Doesn’t include real support for arrays, which is why Micrpub itself specifies the [] extension
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kisik21 Zegnat: means I'll just extend the get list function to get what I want by monkey-patching...
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Zegnat However, if we know some often-used libraries cannot handle "prop[]" if there aren’t multiple of those, maybe we should address that in the spec
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Zegnat Basically as soon as [] comes in, it is Micropub-spec-defined behaviour
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kisik21 For reference: this is python's stdlib cgi.FieldStorage class and its getlist higher-level function doesn't handle []
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[kevinmarks] indigenous is indie-shaming me - I need more endpoints 😞
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[kevinmarks] also https://silopub.p3k.io/ is very sad now
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[kevinmarks] python handles the older model of passing the same parameter multiple times to get an array, which blows ruby's mind
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kisik21 [kevinmarks]: that's it!
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kisik21 That's how it's working probably
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[kevinmarks] I took advantage of this with urls like
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[kevinmarks] r=&letr=s&letr=t&letr=r&letr=t&letr=&letr=t&letr=&letr=eigh&letr=aigh&letr=&letr=&letr=&letr=
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[kevinmarks] http://www.headsuptutoring.com/grid?pagetitle=a-e+sound+with+eight+and+straight&top=a&top=&top=e&top=ai&top=ay&top=&top=&letr=m&letr=a&letr=d&letr=e&letr=&letr=&letr=&letr=t&letr=r&letr=ai&letr=n&letr=s&letr=t&letr=ay&letr=p&letr=l&letr=ay&letr=&letr=w&letr=ay&letr=&letr=t&letr=a&letr=p&letr=e&letr=r&letr=ai&letr=d&letr=b&letr=r&letr=ai&letr=n&letr=ai&letr=m&letr=&letr=l&letr=a&letr=t&letr=e&letr=d&letr=ay&letr=&letr=p&letr=ai&letr=n&letr=t
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kisik21 That's why it not working
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kisik21 I mean, my endpoint
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[kevinmarks] so you need to add the ruby/node [] parsing convention
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kisik21 I know how to get it, one overridden method and it's done! Also backwards compatible
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[kevinmarks] excellent
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GWG Figured out how to extract location data from JetBlue flyfi
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GWG Now what do I do with it?
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Zegnat Stream it into a Compass server instance?
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GWG I don't have one
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GWG Also, need an Android app that can retrieve it and send it
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swentel listens :)
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GWG I will search the store
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Zegnat Wonder if you could just run PHP on Android, then you could easily write something that pulls their data yourself
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GWG Well, I have an app that can pull the data and publish it to an end point, but not automatically
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swentel there are apps that do that
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swentel haven't tried them yet though
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GWG Recommendations?
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swentel can't really tell to be honest
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GWG Candidates?
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GWG Tasker probably
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GWG Should I seriously consider building a Compass alternative into WordPress?
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swentel what is Compass
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Loqi Compass is a location tracking server, part of the p3k set of applications https://indieweb.org/Compass
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GWG I would likely simplify it
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GWG I don't need geojson
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sknebel I'm not sure GeoJSON really adds much complexity, and has the benefit of being basically the standard in the web geo world
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sknebel so it's worth considering
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GWG But I am always doing a point
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GWG I suppose I will consider it if I write it
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sknebel if you really just do points then yes, no need. but e.g. trips and stuff can make use of the other things, and it might e.g. make showing trips on a map easier, since leaflet etc can work with geojson as input
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sknebel but agreed, consider it once you have the use cases, can always add a way to get queried data in geojson if thats needed later
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GWG Outputting and inputting are two different things
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GWG I wonder how aaronpk stores it in his flat files
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petermolnar he stores mf2 json
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petermolnar if I recall it correctly
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petermolnar he mentioned it a long time ago
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petermolnar oh, compass
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petermolnar sorry, wrong context
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GWG My next flight after this trip is likely Austin. I have time
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Zegnat I think compass uses the flatfile database thing he wrote, I forget the name
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Zegnat Which is a text file with every line being a single JSON encoded data record
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Zegnat https://github.com/aaronpk/QuartzDB
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Loqi [aaronpk] QuartzDB: A flat-file database optimized to hold time-series data.
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Zegnat Not sure if that is actually powering current Compass
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petermolnar feels like he should point out that https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/csv-storage-engine.html exists
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GWG He'll show up eventually
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Zegnat petermolnar say you have the gzip bomb and someone helpfully webmentions me from the URL you host it at. Now my endpoint goes to retrieve it with curl.
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Zegnat What is the best way to make sure the bomb doesn't detonate?
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petermolnar oh, that's such a lovely attack to think about, wanna try?
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petermolnar I never dwelt deep enough into the topic to know the answer
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swentel maybe adding a timeout ?
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petermolnar my guess is the php-fpm thread will run out of memory, and that's it
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swentel hmm yeah probably
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petermolnar unless you're using the apache php module
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petermolnar in which case it might take apache down
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Zegnat Most PHP curl will not decompress. But as I'm thinking of adding support for gzip to phpmf2...
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Zegnat I don't want to be to blame for adding a killswitch to all projects using the parser, hahaha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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jeremycherfas now wonders whether he should be storing his geoJSON using aaronpk's QuartzDB as well as with the posts each one refers to.
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sknebel a bunch of things are in the surrounding infrastructure too
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sknebel e.g. it's probably fine if it does it, memory usage blows up and the OOM killer throws out the bad php-fpm process
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sknebel linux is relatively good about actually killing the guilty process
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sknebel it's not helpful if after the restart it goes "oh, I need to finish this task, lets try that again"
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sknebel but i think php-fpm has it's own ability to limit memory too?
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sknebel so unless it happening in curl/gzip somehow gets around that that's probably a good start
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sknebel limiting download size in general helps of course too
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Zegnat Yeah, I need to look into that.
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petermolnar the oom killer will not kick in
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petermolnar there's a line in php.ini, memory_limit =
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petermolnar set that to something reasonable
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petermolnar if the oom killer needs to catch this, it's bad
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Zegnat Problem is, from my reading, curl will happily fill the entire memory you set for the entire application
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Zegnat Not sure people expect it ro do that
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petermolnar command line curl will, yes
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petermolnar php curl will not
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Zegnat I thought it did?
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Zegnat It will download files into memory, until the PHP alloted memory is full
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sknebel and then php resets the process, and you have the problem mitigated to some degree
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sknebel I should check how I can force memory limits on my python workers
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Zegnat Yep. I'm just wondering if this is what people expect. Say you do image processing on your media endpoint and have upped the memory limit. Do you expect your webmention endpoint to download a file that size?
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Zegnat I wouldn't expect a lot of people to set up separate PHP configs for those parts of their website
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Loqi definitely
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sknebel is it a problem if they don't expect it?
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Zegnat Maybe not. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
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sknebel (I mean sure, add lower safety limits in application code if you can, but having a backstop if that fails is good)
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sknebel i.e. catching the gzip bomb scenario in app code is hard in many languages
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sknebel so maybe not bother with that, but still do download size limits
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sknebel (which also help somewhat with it, since gzip has a limited explosion factor)
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Zegnat So, who wants to volunteer and take some gzip bombs against their endpoint? Haha
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sknebel I have upped it on the todo list :D
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Zegnat Is there such a thing as a gziped post? E.g. could I put one as a photo alongside a micropub request?
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sknebel I think you can use ocmpression with requests too, but I'm not sure if that's widely enabled by default
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sknebel I think it's used e.g. with WebDAV
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Zegnat Because that might bypass body size limits, depending on if your server is smart enough to drop it or not.
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Zegnat I'm first going to focus on what a good baseline PHP curl config is like.
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[tantek] Wondering how Bridgy it Webmention io would handle these since thy both accept webmentions
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[tantek] Bridgy *or
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snarfed feel free to try to send bridgy a gzip bomb! no clue how it handles it, but happy to find out. (you won't do any real damage, promise.)
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sknebel yeah, App Engine should handle that well
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kisik21 snarfed: can I add new Python dependencies to Granary when adding a new silo or should I refrain from that?
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snarfed kisik21: if you need them, sure. are you thinking a vkontakted API library?
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kisik21 maybe
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snarfed if the API is complicated, sure. if it's simple OAuth/REST/JSON or similar, consider just using the requests library to access it directly. up to you though!
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kisik21 ok
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[schmarty] feelin' kinda dumb with a bridgy h-feed to atom conversion. tryin'a test out my new site (presently up at https://hugo.martymcgui.re/) and seeing no URI for author info anywhere: https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=atom&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhugo.martymcgui.re%2Fposts%2F
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snarfed (also you'll need to add it to oauth-dropins first, before granary)
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[schmarty] (trying to set up a conversion of my posts page at https://hugo.martymcgui.re/posts/ into atom)
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[schmarty] lol wtf did i put in this page
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snarfed heh. looks like the authorship works on your permalinks at least. https://sturdy-backbone.glitch.me/test?url=https://martymcgui.re/2018/11/27/131006/
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[schmarty] yeah, i must be misunderstanding something about the h-feed. or how granary eats them?
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snarfed looking
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[schmarty] snarfed++ thanks for looking!
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Loqi snarfed has 66 karma in this channel over the last year (108 in all channels)
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sknebel It might not like it that the author doesn't have a url property?
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sknebel [schmarty]: try removing the "u-photo" class on the image in the h-cards on the posts
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kisik21 snarfed: what version of Python do you use for granary and bridgy? can I write Python 3 code there?
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sknebel kisik21: no, Python 2
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sknebel at least for bridgy
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snarfed yup, sadly technically python 2. app engine recently launched python 3 support, but not for most of its existing APIs yet
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kisik21 so no Python 3 for now?
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kisik21 Py2 will be deprecated in 2020
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snarfed kisik21: on the plus side granary uses https://python-future.org/ so it's both python 2 and 3 compatible
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snarfed ...which is the bigger reason we don't yet add python-3-only language features: so that python 2 users can still use granary.
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snarfed ok [schmarty]. granary is finding your author h-cards. they have name, which is in the atom; photo, which afaik atom doesn't support; and url, which isn't marked up with u-url, which is why it's not in the atom, i think.
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sknebel it's in the "value" of the author property, but not in the element in it, since it'd need to be implied, and the u-photo kills the implied URL handling
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sknebel so remove the u-photo class and it should work
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[schmarty] neat. dropping u-photo now
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[schmarty] that did it!
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[schmarty] sknebel++ thanks for the assist. and snarfed, thanks again!
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snarfed welcome!
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[schmarty] snarfed: if i wanted to understand more about how posts get converted to atom? specifically, i have a like-of post: https://hugo.martymcgui.re/2018/11/18/141803/ which gets extra wrapping content that i'd like to fix. e.g. an empty img tag for my avatar.
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[schmarty] lol i left out most of that sentence: where would i start looking if i wanted to understand... etc.
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snarfed [schmarty]: heh. you're welcome to read the templates and code! not for the faint of heart, but should be doable. https://github.com/snarfed/granary/tree/master/granary/templates , https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/atom.py
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snarfed if you think there's a bug, please do file a minimal test case as a granary issue, i'll happily look
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[schmarty] excellent, thansk!
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[schmarty] *thanks, even. i will do my best to thread the needle and adjust my own markup, since i trust your code much more than my own. :}
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sknebel [schmarty]: and the input half: https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/microformats2.py#L340 (and other bits of the file of course)
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sknebel all formats convert to and from (a variation of(?)) AS1
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gRegorLove I get that same empty img, [schmarty]. I think it's supposed to be author photo, for AS
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gRegorLove (on my feed, I mean)
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gRegorLove https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-11-30#t1480541616534000
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Loqi [snarfed] gRegorLove: re profile pictures in granary atom, uses the entry's author if it has one, otherwise runs the authorship algorithm on the source html page: https://indieweb.org/authorship
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gRegorLove Think I forgot to follow up on that
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swentel aah crap
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[schmarty] yeah, both the empty image and an empty <p> tag where something called "activity.annotation" goes.
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gRegorLove For me I think it's that my homepage h-card is inside the h-feed, so maybe /authorship isn't finding it.
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gRegorLove Will have to dig into it later.
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[schmarty] my posts each have an embedded h-card with a photo, so i would expect that photo to make it into the atom feed rather than becoming an img tag with an empty src.
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[schmarty] conversions like these are complicated, haha.
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[schmarty] i seem to remember that newer mf2-aware feed readers expect to display "summary" if they don't understand the properties on a post, so my likes (and reposts) include a summary, but they have no content of their own. i don't think granary looks for summary, which explains that.
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[schmarty] (by "that" i mean why granary is synthesizing content at all)
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gRegorLove Yeah, your author info looks good on that page, not sure why it's not working
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[schmarty] ker-shrug.
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kisik21 snarfed: is there something like granary but for one tweet? need to convert single tweet to h-entry
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[jgmac1106] do that by hand
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[jgmac1106] if it is just one
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kisik21 how to? I need h-entry JSON
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[jgmac1106] you can use unmung, write the correct h-entry and throw it in
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[jgmac1106] what is link to tweet?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "link to tweet" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "link to tweet is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] http://www.unmung.com/
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kisik21 [jgmac1106]: how to use unmung with twitter?
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kisik21 I mean... it doesn't seem to handle Twitter links
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kisik21 or I am doing something wron
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[jgmac1106] i mean take the one tweet, write the h-entry and you can throw in unmung for mf2 json
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kisik21 I have mf2py for that
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kisik21 The problem is Twitter -> h-entry
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kisik21 Granary seems to be able to do it
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kisik21 well, so can I, but maybe I could outsource it to another service
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[jgmac1106] you are manually writing the h-entry if it is just one...probably be quicker than this chat we are having...if you want a lot I have no idea
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gRegorLove kisik21, XRay lets you plug in your Twitter API info and will return Twitter as jf2
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kisik21 xray lib or xray.p3k.app?
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gRegorLove lib
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kisik21 python, no PHP
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sknebel kisik21: I think granary can do that, at least if you use it as a library. not sure if the hosted can
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kisik21 oh, why silos are so complez
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kisik21 s/z$/x/
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sknebel you can also use the hosted xray with your own api tokens
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Zegnat Yep, pass api tokens to xray and it’ll work, you just have to trust aaronpk with your api tokens in that case
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snarfed kisik21: granary handles individual tweets, just put the tweet id into the "activity id" box
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kisik21 Yeah, that is what I wanted
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kisik21 snarfed++ granary++
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kisik21 snarfed++
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kisik21 granary++
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sknebel [schmarty]: your like has two "like-of", that might cause trouble in granary?
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sknebel once the naked url, once an h-cite for it
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gRegorLove I've been trying several variations on a minimal h-feed, none seem to include the img: https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=atom&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2Fh-feed.html
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gRegorLove Tried versions with an h-feed.author and same result.
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gRegorLove The h-entry's author img does show up as the rel=avatar for the feed
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sknebel [schmarty]: if I'm reading granary right that is at least the cause of why it only says "Likes this"
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snarfed gRegorLove: are you hoping for author image to show up in atom? it doesn't because atom has no field for author image/photo. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#section-3.2
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[jgmac1106] gRregorLove I had a chance to check Known will use p-category "rel=tag" which I believe parsers will handle the same way as p-category "value=X" what are the three categories you are using for Read posts?
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gRegorLove Within the activity:object <content> there is: `<img src="" />
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gRegorLove originally shared this post:`
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gRegorLove <a href="">gRegor</a>
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gRegorLove Trying to figure out why that img src is blank
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snarfed ahhh ok
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gRegorLove I was trying an h-feed.author just to cover all the bases
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snarfed if you're changing the input page, the other thing you need to do is add &cache=false :P
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snarfed https://granary.readthedocs.io/en/stable/#using-the-rest-api
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snarfed ...doesn't change this specifically though
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gRegorLove I was using the interactive form, which seems to not be caching
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snarfed right
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gRegorLove but noted!
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gRegorLove Not a high priority, [schmarty] just reminded me to check into it.
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snarfed that <img src=""> is wholly generated by granary, not sanitized from your input
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snarfed looking at where it expects the image from...
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gRegorLove `obj.actor.image.url`
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gRegorLove Which appears it should be from the author photo, but my python isn't the best
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snarfed yeah, and it's there in the AS1, but image is an array, which might be the problem
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gRegorLove ahh
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snarfed yup that's it. thanks for the report! will fix.
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gRegorLove That should fix for you as well, [schmarty]
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[schmarty] wahooo
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snarfed not deployed yet, to be clear
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[schmarty] keep the wahooo in reserve
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[jgmac1106] [gRegorLove] didn't mean to hop in the middle of your thread. Just post the three p-categories you are experimenting with and I will use the same
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sknebel [schmarty]: you should probably remove the u-like-of in the summary if you render a reply context too
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[schmarty] [sknebel] that's my next step, though i am grumpy about having to jump through the hoops to do so.
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sknebel ?
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[schmarty] (i don't always have valid reply context data, so i don't always render a reply context)
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[schmarty] so the template bit that renders the summary now needs to know whether or not to include the u-like-of, etc., making it dependent on a check that i have a valid reply context to show.
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], Based on current read-status usage, the tags would be: to-read, reading, and finished. IBC allows posting tags, so you can try that right now
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gRegorLove It's still sending read-status, of course, but the idea is to experiment with turning that off (as an IBC setting for your profile)
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gRegorLove [schmarty], "oooh aww". I like it.
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cjwillcock GWG: re: Android app for task automation, I can't recommend Tasker enough. Like I had super-charged my smartphone. I wrote a server endpoint to receive data per two minutes and that feeds into my Now page. Works perfectly (after fiddling a bit).
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GWG What data do you send?
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cjwillcock I'll check
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cjwillcock 26 data points from my S8+
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GWG Such as and what do you do with them?
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cjwillcock origin (IMEI), collection start time, battery level, power state (plugged/unplugged), memory state (RAM usage), lat, lon, accuracy of lat/lon, altitude, speed, location update timestamp ...
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cjwillcock whew ... a few more :)
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cjwillcock cell service type, cell asu, cell dbm, cell level, wifi state, wifi connected yes/no, ssid, signal strength, bandwidth ...
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[jgmac1106] Thx gRegor going to use same variation for watch and listen
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cjwillcock I draw a realistic version of my view of the phone on my now page, https://cjwillcock.ca/now/
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Loqi [Rachel Willcock] Your map is working awesome! Love seeing about where you are and speed! This is good!
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cjwillcock other than that, not so much I guess
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cjwillcock but I also use lat/lon to collect my local weather and forecast on my local server, and push that back to my phone where it does text to speech on demand
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cjwillcock so I may not know where I am, but I should be able to get the weather forecast almost fully independent of corporate influence
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cjwillcock I like it haha
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cjwillcock my Now page also shows my land speed based on the data ... so my wife knows if I was speeding when I get home
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cjwillcock I mean apparently speeding ... it's a rough estimate of speed
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cjwillcock assuming I am travelling at the time (with my phone)
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GWG Fun
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GWG My challenge is recording data siphoned from my plane
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cjwillcock I also installed Termux -- so a linux cli environment right on the phone, and was writing and running Go & PHP while waiting for the dentist, etc.
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cjwillcock that's got potential for you GWG
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cjwillcock it was more challenging to poll the sensors and get back control quickly with termux iirc
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cjwillcock s/more challenging/not working for me/
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cjwillcock about 500 MB of data since July 16 (per 2 mins)
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snarfed tasker++ is great. i only use it for a little light automation/triggering, but it's nice
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GWG I may try to rig something for the return flight
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[schmarty] sknebel: thank you for the nudge. dropping the extra u-url when i have a valid reply context was not all that difficult after all. this granary output is acceptable!
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snarfed acceptable! i'll take it!
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snarfed high praise
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[schmarty] for generated content? acceptable is wonderful!
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GWG snarfed, what do you automate with tasker?
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snarfed right now just headset play/pause and auto-rotating specific apps. i used to do more based on location.
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[kevinmarks] The GPS Test app. On my phone tells me when it has enough satellites for a 3d fix. It also gives speed and heading
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[kevinmarks] This is one view
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cjwillcock my favorite tasker task: on server side I download and crop to fit my mobile resolution, photos of the day from various online feeds. Then tasker picks them up from the server and applies them as the BG. Fresh mobile backgrounds every 3 waking hours (or so).
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cjwillcock https://gist.github.com/cjwillcock/8127fb8d406687241a54a97cd6df9e87 is my PoTD script for https://fstoppers.com/potd
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[jgmac1106] This s stuff is soo cool
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