#dev 2018-12-14
2018-12-14 UTC
# [jgmac1106] !tell mblaney why isn't indiepay.me picking up the h-card on https://jgregorymcverry.com/badges ?
# Loqi mblaney: [jgmac1106] left you a message 7 minutes ago: why isn't indiepay.me picking up the h-card on https://jgregorymcverry.com/badges ?
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# [jgmac1106] ahh I would need to add a rel=me link on that page in the h-card
# [jgmac1106] i shouldn't be doing what I was doing anyway....but wanted to see it as a micropub ledger...very close to a badge issuing platform
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# kisik21 when I set visibility, is it available in micropub JSON as .properties.visibility or as .visibility?
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "visibility" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "visibility is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pickled file" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pickled file is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# kisik21 pickled file is a file containing Python objects serialized with pickle module. These files can be used as simple databases.
# kisik21 ahem
# kisik21 what is a pickled file?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pickled file" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pickled file is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# kisik21 pickled file is a file containing Python objects serialized with pickle module. These files can be used as simple databases.
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# @jackysee 我極之buy indieweb 的精神, 唔係乜野左膠大愛無私野,只需要一個非常自私的理由:留底!indieweb 的技術面向(POSSE,micropub,indieauth..)也令人覺得這才是應做之事。 http://chainsawriot.com/mannheim/2018/11/25/indie.html (twitter.com/_/status/1073406602806476802)
# kisik21 google translated this, and it is surprisingly not spam!
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# kisik21 !tell snarfed is there a way to use another username in fediverse when using bridgy fed? for example, @vika@fireburn.ru. Self-hosting bridgy fed is ok, I just wanna know which parts to change in code...
# aaronpk I don't see it in the docs but there is a resolved issue about it https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/3
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# jacky some talks that dansup shared re: scaling and social media https://www.infoq.com/presentations/Real-Time-Delivery-Twitter + https://www.infoq.com/presentations/scaling-instagram
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# [eddie] Hmmm seems like a lot of PHP frameworks aren’t very compatible with shared hosting 🤔 so far I’ve looked at Laravel and Symfony. Which is saddening because if I used PHP it would be because it can be installed in places easier than Node.js and Swift, but it seems like if I use a modern framework, it’s not that easy. So now I’m confused haha
# kisik21 aaronpk: am i right that bridgy-fed will use a custom name if I have <a href="acct:vika@fireburn.ru"></a> in my h-card?
# kisik21 is this markup correct?
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# kisik21 Did you know that logging in on my site has roughly 1/4 chance to succeed?
# kisik21 I have 4 workers, and each of them is NOT sharing the transient state that I need to keep track of users login flow. Once you logged in, you are logged in. But if you're in the middle and you hit the wrong worker, you're screwed.
# kisik21 An interesting case of russian roulette (it's funny because I'm russian myself)
# kisik21 can I make uwsgi somehow share a variable between several workers running Python code?
# kisik21 auth codes for indielogin module (I call it like this because it does what indielogin.com does) are indeed stored in memory (I don't need them for more than a minute!)
# kisik21 Ruxton: should they be stored in a file maybe?
# kisik21 Ruxton: it's not a sessionID, it's a transient code in indieauth client flow. The cookie is an encrypted token that cannot be modified without me noticing, so once you're logged in, your session is stateless!
# kisik21 That's something I'm a bit proud of
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# kisik21 how can I advertise a page that contains A FULL FEED of my site without pagination on my main page so people would see it?
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# kisik21 aaronpk: if I added a websub hub (btw using switchboard for this!), how fast Aperture will discover it? next crawl?
# kisik21 switchboard++
# kisik21 switchboard.p3k.io++
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# [Vincent] I’m 2/3rds of the way through writing my media endpoint. It’s been easier than i thought (especially for a coding n00b like me). Ironically the hardest part is deciding where the uploaded image lives, file path, naming etc. Rather than the code to do it
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# [kevinmarks] Node on Heroku is often cheaper to run than php or Ruby. If you want static types Go is probably your best choice - appengine runs it well, and you can install it as a binary on hosting.
# [jgmac1106] [kevinmarks] hope you don't mind... Gave Marcus a nudge about your site
# dansup aaronpk: your http signature code in nautilus has been really helpful. I can't wait for federation! https://mastodon.social/@pixelfed/101232877790019192
# Loqi [pixelfed] The new tumblr inspired "micro" UI is ready! It will be released with federation support. #pixelfed #tumblr https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/008/834/383/original/d0de625378dda317.png
# [jgmac1106] What pixelfed instance should I join since the main one is closed for new members?
# dansup pixelfed.social registration is re-opened
# dansup you can find other instances on https://the-federation.info/pixelfed
# kisik21 tries to send toots with fed.brid.gy
# kisik21 for me it fails...
# [jgmac1106] Trying to convince [benwerd] and @mapkyca Bridgy Fed be fine for Known... But they want native AP support.... Worried about Single Point of Ryan
# kisik21 swentel: YAY IT WORKS
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# [jgmac1106] Will look today
# [jgmac1106] My semester officially done @swentel... We block out 2-3 half hour time slots we can record you walking me through Drupal install.. Make a video series
# [jgmac1106] Going to do @gwg 2016-IndieWeb today I hope.... If the laundry machines are off.... Right next to my "studio"
# [jgmac1106] Any archive.org users know how to get around this
# Loqi [Greg McVerry] I am trying to add files to items but the buttons to the classic uploader not working. I am sure it is a flash issue. How can I authorize Flash on this page for Chrome I did not get a prompt?Anyone have workaround? https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/file/971f4d1cb56b35980f2ad0e164aae9bb/thumb.png
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# @voss ↩️ @Cambridgeport90 Yup, worked a treat! I had to kick http://brid.gy a little before it showed up, but it's there now (: (twitter.com/_/status/1073538158829146112)
# [jgmac1106] @kisik21 content warning interesting. Not something we thought of in our place of privilege
# [jgmac1106] I wonder how Atom handles those in Mastodon feeds and what happens on mf2 conversion
# [jgmac1106] !tell aaronpk when you get a chance can you switch my aperture domain to https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com
# [jgmac1106] Okay... Will do... Figured it should be documented befire discussing possible solutions
# Loqi aaronpk: [jgmac1106] left you a message 13 minutes ago: when you get a chance can you switch my aperture domain to https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com
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# sknebel it's p-summary, not p-name, at least in the current code: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/d723f2a0a88d4ac106638733b7ba17f8d205850a/app/views/stream_entries/_simple_status.html.haml#L25
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# [kevinmarks] It's summary in the atom too. I map it to details in mastoview
# [jgmac1106] I know proposing new properties is frowned upon but content warning something we should think about soon. p-summary different use case
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# sknebel content_warning << [https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/232 discussion for explicit CW vs summary in AP] – deferred to "later"
# Loqi ok, I added "[https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/232 discussion for explicit CW vs summary in AP] – deferred to "later"" to the "See Also" section of /content_warning https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54686&oldid=51229
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# [jgmac1106] That guy later always has so many tasks to finish
# [jgmac1106] Bad joke
# [jgmac1106] Personified "Do Later" as a person
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ I think @kevinmarks can not use any micropub or microsub tools from his hosted withknown account. For individuals updating htaccess to https from http did the trick..
...Yeah Known to Known migration tricky as you said...database integration (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1p58KA) (twitter.com/_/status/1073619776252112899)
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# @kevinmarks ↩️ I'm just hoping to get micropub working well enough to use with microsub clients, as it is giving token endpoint errors now. (twitter.com/_/status/1073624274685095937)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ This is how https://brid.gy works with Tumblr now...comments through Diqus a lot of people fear native comments as attack vectors for spam. Few use them anymore..most of my comments come in form of webmentions. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1PlX8x) (twitter.com/_/status/1073634570656989184)
# @jgmac1106 ↩️ This is how https://brid.gy works with Tumblr now...comments through Diqus a lot of people fear native comments as attack vectors for spam. Few use them anymore..most of my comments come in form of webmentions. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1PlX8x) (twitter.com/_/status/1073634570656989184)
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# jgmac1106 I may have mentioned that back in May: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/microformats-i-would-like-in-remixable-indieweb-classrooms
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# snarfed hey jmac just fyi your webmention endpoint fogknife.com:4000 advertised on http://fogknife.com/ is down. not sure how long it's been that way
# snarfed kisik21: looks like people already pointed you to https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/3#issuecomment-381028834 , which is the right way. put an acct: url in your site's representative h-card's u-url property, and bridgy fed should use it.
# snarfed (following https://fed.brid.gy/#use )
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# [jgmac1106] I think I messed up at this step: Finally, configure your web site to redirect these URL paths to the same paths on https://fed.brid.gy/, including query parameters:
# [jgmac1106] I did this: Here are instructions for a few common web servers
# jgmac1106 yeah don’t even show up here: https://fed.brid.gy/responses
# snarfed those are for individual posts/responses, not sites. have you tried eg replying to a mastodon post and sending a webmention from it to bridgy fed? ie this? https://fed.brid.gy/#To%20use%20it
# [jgmac1106] Dublin Core..that's the metadata all the librarians love..didn;t even realized I had that too
# [jgmac1106] I see the Granary link for the atom feed in my Pubsubhubbub section
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# snarfed [jgmac1106]: neither jgregorymcverry.com nor quickthoughts are redirecting the /.well-known/... paths to bridgy fed. you'll need to set those up first. ie https://fed.brid.gy/#Finally
# [jgmac1106] Is this step: Finally, configure your web site to redirect these URL paths to the same paths on https://fed.brid.gy/, including query parameters: before the htaccess?
# [jgmac1106] let me try manually and see if that works since the htaccess file change didn;t
# [jgmac1106] who knows if it is all the security stuff. firefox won't even let me delete comments now because of the mixed http/https warningsa
# [jgmac1106] yeah and i probably only turn an engine on once, hate to crank the starter
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# Zegnat jgmac1106, re your htaccess file, I think lines 20–22 (rewriting for files that do not exist on your server) run before the one you added for .well-known. So the server never gets to it. Move the bridgy fed rewrite to after the css rewrite. Also, drop the RewriteEngine / RewriteBase lines, you already have those up top.
# [jgmac1106] sweet my car engine metaphor was on point
# [jgmac1106] screwed the pooch on that one..gonna be late..will try later: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/
# [jgmac1106] even my old working htaccess file doesn't work......really hope I have a backup that includes my tutorial I wrote today, rest is vapid nonsense mainly
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# [jgmac1106] I could just move off my shared host onto AWS and use ngix... But that is migration to nth...
# [jgmac1106] But reverting back not working seems weird
# [jgmac1106] I back up on half hour
# [jgmac1106] Should be okay
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# [jgmac1106] Puzzles are fun to solve
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# Loqi [snarfed] chrisaldrich++ oh man facebook backfeed from email notifications might actually be possible. https://snarfed.org/fb_email_comment.png , https://snarfed.org/fb_email_like.png
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# [jgmac1106] just in a rush the file name was at top of the gist....cut and pasting error back in business
# jgmac1106 I get this one to work: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/12/14/absolute-last-try-and-then-i-give
# Loqi [Greg McVerry] absolute last try and then I give up on getting https://fed.brid.gy going for awhile...wanna get outside before it's dark.
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# [jgmac1106] you probably turned it off. it is hell getting them all
# [jgmac1106] just the once
{snarfed}
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# [schmarty] Oh have we talked about a browser extension for bridgy backfeed?
# [jgmac1106] I was wonderign that the way FF wraps facebook to strip away trackers
# [schmarty] Yeah I guess it's not bridge-like at that point
# [jgmac1106] facebook hired a PR firm to spread antisemitic memes to influence congress, the supported SOFTA juts to throw Congress a bone, they secretly sell data....I think we are having the wrong conversation IMO...#AllIGottaSayAboutThat
# [schmarty] It would probably need a server component for the synthetic pages for WMs
# [jgmac1106] could you use this make a big microoub container: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/facebook-container-extension/
# [schmarty] Interesting! Micropub edits to add responses to a post.
# snarfed [jgmac1106]: just fyi bridgy fed is getting timeouts and 403s from fetching http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/ . that's at least part of the reason you're seeing flakiness, if not the whole reason
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