KevinMarksUX improvement suggestion for indiauth.com in the email message put the code in the beginning of the subject so I can read it from the notification without switching apps
petermolnar!tell cleverdevil I tried to use ditchbook on a current facebook page export, but it doesn't like it, due to mismatches in available/unavailable dictionary elements, eg. status without media elements.
[Vincent]I’ve noticed that when I use social readers the static images from mapbox.io dont render correctly. Not sure if that’s some weird specific issue to me or something you need to bear in mind.
LoqiWhile self-hosting is comparatively easy for content formats like photos, same does not apply to interactive maps – given the sheer amount of data and/or the complexity of its processing. Experimenting with OpenMapTiles, it for the first time appea...
[Vincent]You are free to copy, distribute, transmit and adapt our data, as long as you credit OpenStreetMap and its contributors. If you alter or build upon our data, you may distribute the result only under the same licence.
sknebel[Vincent]: it's a bit more complicated than that. the map data is one thing. another thing is the pixels being generated from it, and the terms under which you can ue APIs giving you the pixels is yet another
sknebelvarious places give you tile images, but often free tiers are limited. and GWG ideally wouldn't want tiles, but larger images already combined he can store locally
sknebelthe staticmaplite script above could be interesting to assemble tiles yourself, then the issue is "only" finding a set of tile providers that work
aaronpkgenerally you'll want to find a way to use a proper geospatial type in the database, but that isn't going to work on the lowest common denominator for wordpress
aaronpki think if you want to avoid the actual geospatial extensions your best bet is to use an indexed column that is an integer that is the geohash https://gis.stackexchange.com/a/92331
sknebeltrying to find a small-ish setup to use OSM venues is still on my todo list, but different priorities right now before diving into something like that
ZegnatEspecially if waiting rooms are involved where they still want to use their device without publicly broadcasting whos waiting room they are in, he
ZegnatThat is interesting though, do you expect the geofence to apply retroactively? Because then you are looking at checking every post when the list of fences is edited.
aaronpktake the lazy approach, and give the user a checkbox when editing the post so they can turn it off and on per post, and only set the checkbox automatically for new posts
aaronpksounds like you have a good mechanism in place already. i'd make the new zone thing just set that default value if it's not provided by the user or in the micropub request
ZegnatTheoretically you should be able to merge h-cards as long as they share their url value, I think, GWG. So rather than finding 1 just concat them together?
Zegnatyeah, so I am saying rather than having to create criteria for finding the right h-card, just merge them together so you only ever “find one” :) Though I am not sure anyone is doing it that way today
ZegnatTheoretically, because the url property on the h-card identifies it, and other h-cards with the same url property can be merged into it. So someone can have an h-card on their h-entry, h-feed, and outside in their footer, yet those could probably all be merged into just one card.
GWGI anticipated a top level h-card, but I assumed that if you had one, you wouldn't also have it on the h-feed and on every individual post. I ended up storing all h-cards in a temporary array and merging them together, then adding where missing
[cleverdevil]ditchbook is a tough project, because in order to really make it work well, I need to have a large number of people's facebook exports to work with.
Loqi[cleverdevil]: snarfed left you a message 5 days, 4 hours ago: hey podcasters, we don't yet have exact audio file size (in bytes) in mf2. how should we represent that? i'm looking at converting to RSS, where it's required. more: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2019-02-17#t1550418872983700
Loqi[cleverdevil]: petermolnar left you a message 13 hours, 20 minutes ago: I tried to use ditchbook on a current facebook page export, but it doesn't like it, due to mismatches in available/unavailable dictionary elements, eg. status without media elements.
aaronpkjacky: there's also the micropub overloading for syndication. Like how silo.pub handles the silo APIs and gives you an API to it that happens to look like micropub
snarfedyup. micropub definitely seems like the right cross-tool protocol for POSSE/syndication going forward. bridgy using webmention was really just a historical accident because i built it before micropub.
snarfedGWG: right but this is beyond that. you can outsource the targets to bridgy and still hard code or have the user enter their silo accounts in site setup
GWGsnarfed: I built something in this area into Syndication Links. Someone can implement a class that tells it what the strings are to display, and a function that does the POSSEing, and it handles the Micropub target registration and checkboxes in the Classic Editor.
jackysnarfed: that's fair. I'm looking a bit further ahead (towards users who might not have a deeper grasp into the indieweb of things but do want to try this out)
[eddie]I agree the UI issues are for more relevant than the need for try to automate that stuff. Also aaronpk's site because it uses Micropub supports a kind of IndieAuth like "adding" if I remember correctly
[eddie]While the Generations model isn't the best the one thing it DOES help with is the concept that we have to iterate. We can't build for Gen 4 until we've built for Gen 3
[eddie]the UI and tools will progressively iterate until they reach general public. I don't believe we can jump from our current setup to general public
[jgmac1106]...for my badges...instead of building them all one at a time, I could build them all at once and uncomment out as they are earned....just a stopgap until I build a proper system for webmention badges
Zegnatsnarfed, I am extrapolating from the fact that a receiver should look for href/src attributes. Also from the GitHub issue I linked here. If you are checking HTML for mentions, you should be using an HTML parser, which will turn a comment into just a big string.
ZegnatThough what exactly a link is, may still be up for debate ;) E.g. I initially wrote in that GitHub issue that <form action> could probably be ignored. But now that forms are getting rel attributes...
ZegnatSo, yes, Webmention spec may be a bit vague on the subject. But for it to define what are and aren’t HTML links is probably super-duper out of scope :D
[tantek]wait a minute, since forms are getting rel attributes, and we can use a form for webmention sending UI, does that mean it can double as discovery for the webmention endpoint too?!?
Zegnat[tantek], yep, it was one of the few cases where it would actually make sense. We discussed it a little when annevk came by the #microformats channel
ZegnatWonder if the mf2 spec needs changing or not. It mentions rel parsing needs to happen for tags that constitute a “hyperlink element”. While forms are now links, I don’t know if there is a spec-difference between HTML Links and HTML Hyperlinks. Or if mf2 spec hyperlink is even the same as the HTML spec hyperlink
[tantek]so here's a thought, what if we moved the @indiewebcamp twitter to micro.blog, and then had it cross post from micro.blog, then have Loqi use micropub to post to micro.blog/indiewebcamp instead of posting to Twitter?
KevinMarks UX improvement suggestion for indiauth.com in the email message put the code in the beginning of the subject so I can read it from the notification without switching apps
jacky can I assume (safely) the word 'domain' and the concept of a 'hostname' are the same in https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#authorization-response-p-1?
petermolnar !tell cleverdevil I tried to use ditchbook on a current facebook page export, but it doesn't like it, due to mismatches in available/unavailable dictionary elements, eg. status without media elements.
[Vincent] @swentel I do static maps for checkins on my site whenever there isn’t an accompanying photo https://vincentp.me/categories/checkins/page/3.html
swentel optimized the rendering a bit: https://ibb.co/Fz1qMHt
[schmarty] i have been really happy with sgreger's self-hosted static maps https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/self-hosting-maps-control-privacy-ux/
aaronpk i think if you want to avoid the actual geospatial extensions your best bet is to use an indexed column that is an integer that is the geohash https://gis.stackexchange.com/a/92331
GWG Anyone ever heard of these people? https://www.apixu.com/
voxpelli Have I missed anyones Node.js project in this? https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github/issues/97
[jgmac1106] voxpelli yes there are consoles and logs, but only issue tracker would be to export project to GitHub
KartikPrabhu I have an h-card footer on every page too
[cleverdevil] ditchbook is a tough project, because in order to really make it work well, I need to have a large number of people's facebook exports to work with.
Loqi [cleverdevil]: snarfed left you a message 5 days, 4 hours ago: hey podcasters, we don't yet have exact audio file size (in bytes) in mf2. how should we represent that? i'm looking at converting to RSS, where it's required. more: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2019-02-17#t1550418872983700
@jgmac1106 I made a webmention badges issuing site for #edu307 https://edu307.glitch.me/ If you have not added webmentions with https://brid.gy you will not be notified of the badge. You can always check the page and see if you met the criteria for a module. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1X0xG0) (twitter.com/_/status/1099068778690891776)
Zegnat If you are up for the academical debate about what is and isn’t a link: https://github.com/w3c/webmention/issues/91
[grantcodes] I wouldn't have thought so tantek. I only remember seeing one and it had a different syntax to that