#dev 2021-04-16

2021-04-16 UTC
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marinin[t] commit for that one last test: [master 14acfe1] webmention: 23/23 webmention.rocks 15 files changed, 510 insertions(+), 347 deletions(-)
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[snarfed] you earned it
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jacky I think there is a spec for that
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jacky like vaguely
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jacky it's like something where you could visit `/.well-known/oauth2` or something
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aaronpk prof_milki: I've encountered this same issue with the Microsub endpoint in Aperture. Basically I give each user a unique endpoint so that I know where I need to validate the token
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jacky oh this is interesting
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jacky I kind of need something for this with Sele (to be able to properly handle what authentication method a particular site wants to use)
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jacky I think I have this easy because of the `me` param
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jacky but it _has_ to be valid / recognizable to Sele
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@jaybearca https://jaybear.ca/14670/ Why do comments on my blog show up as "This Status was mentioned on ..." rather than actual comments? I've been using the Webmention plugin for WordPress. I don't think I had this problem years back. (twitter.com/_/status/1382924534819393536)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ The Webmention plugin only does notifications. You also need the semantic linkbacks plugin for the parser which will give you the richer data you're looking for. https://wordpress.org/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/ (twitter.com/_/status/1382941111975620610)
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@jaybearca ↩️ Thank you so much, Chris. I installed that plugin, but have deactivated it since last migration. Will it automatically parse existing Webmentions and render them into 'natural' comments if I re-activate it? (twitter.com/_/status/1382974579048648708)
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@jpcaruana test de post de tweet depuis mon propre site #indieweb #webmention (https://jp.caruana.fr/notes/2021/04/16/test-de-post-de-tweet-depuis/) (twitter.com/_/status/1382996942716870658)
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[manton] I’ve been improving various bit of IndieWeb-related code in Micro.blog this week. Kind of on a roll, so if anyone has Micro.blog gripes or suggestions, let me know. 🙂
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[snarfed] [manton] awesome! are inbound and outbound webmentions fully working yet? we’d love to remove the caveats around recommending m.b on https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Custom_domain_silos !
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[manton] [snarfed] Yep, should be fully working now. I made some outbound improvements this week, and I know we get inbound Webmentions… I might send some more from my test WordPress blog.
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GWG [manton]: I haven't gotten a webmention from micro.blog in a while, so unsure if I have anything right now
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[snarfed] awesome! i’ll remove those caveats
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[manton] @GWG Last week I had some server problems that prevented some notifications from going out, so maybe that was it? If you have a post I can try replying to, I can test it.
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GWG [manton]: I just figured no one was interested
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2021/04/11/5016/ Try this one
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GWG Pretty generic
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Loqi [David Shanske] Just began a major reorganize at of my apartment, as I’ve been here very little in the last year. This will take weeks to complete. Anyone have any advice?
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[manton] @GWG Replied. Let me know if you get a Webmention.
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[manton] I don’t see anything as a comment on your site, but maybe it needs approval…
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GWG It's in my moderation queue
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GWG I need to teach moderation about multiuser sites
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GWG Right now I can only auto approve by domian
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GWG domain
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GWG Approved now
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[manton] Great, looks like it worked then!
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GWG Great
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GWG I really need to enhance my webmention implementation
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[schmarty] manton++
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@MagnoliaJSconf ↩️ About the talk: Webmentions are an exciting standard which help enable the IndieWeb. We can own our own content, hosted on our own domains, without sacrificing social connection and replies with other people! Eleventy is JavaScript-based static site generator that requires... (twitter.com/_/status/1383084170973417472)
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@MagnoliaJSconf MagnoliaJS 2021 presents @TheGreenGreek! Join the Indie Web with Eleventy and Webmentions Register today! https://ti.to/magnoliajs/2021 (twitter.com/_/status/1383084169685794820)
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[chrisaldrich] [manton], speaking of webmentions, comments, and micro.blog, it would be nice to see some movement in the area of external replies to posts on micro.blog stripping out any reply contexts when they appear in the home stream. I'm pretty sure they're still showing (repeating) the context before showing the reply (or worse, concatenating the actual reply).
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Alas no. You can resend them manually by putting the URL links into the "Ping Me" box on your original posts. If you're using http://Brid.gy, there's a resend functionality there as well which might speed things up. (twitter.com/_/status/1383092019732500483)
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jacky looking for a loader for my consent screen and wow https://loading.io/animation
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jacky like Kirby gets twisted lol
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jacky oooooh even more interesting https://loading.io/background/
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jacky this gives me "Discord sign-in page" or "Discord paying for Nitro" animation vibes https://loading.io/background/m-fluid/
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jacky I _really_ love the feel of Discord
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[manton] [chrisaldrich] Thanks, I’d like to improve that. One thing I could do is ignore replies in a feed if there has already been a Webmention for that reply sent to Micro.blog. Would that mostly solve what you’re talking about? Separately I think Micro.blog could pay more attention to u-in-reply-to in HTML in a feed post.
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[chrisaldrich] I suspect things work properly for the notification side on people's stand alone sites. The bigger presentational issue is how they appear in the micro.blog timeline (or conversation pages). Things may be trickier if folks are sending threaded replies between their site and micro.blog, in which case you may need/want to watch out on that first part.
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jacky does anyone have tips and ideas for presenting threaded comments (just got reminded about the above)
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jacky like in a semi-tree structure a bit similar to Disqus/Reddit
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KartikPrabhu well any thread has the potential to be infinitely nested so watch out for that :P
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KartikPrabhu you can restrict to any n-level nesting
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KartikPrabhu and so you can choose n = 0 ;)
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jacky oh I'm definitely capping the nesting to be around 3
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GWG I forget what the WordPress default is, but I can't say it is informed
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KartikPrabhu on wide screens nesting can be done by having some relative indentation
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KartikPrabhu but on small/mobile screens it becomes weird
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jacky yeah I'm thinking about collapsing comment threads by default and giving them a "more focused" as it goes down
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jacky like a sideway slide kind of click through
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jacky god knows how the CSS for that will work, lol
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jacky switching gears again, this is probably super flashy but https://imgur.com/qzhVsiy
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jacky I was thinking about adding a hint about PKCE verification without mentioning PKCE but eh
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jacky adds it
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[aciccarello] That looks clean 👏
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[aciccarello] jacky++
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jacky thank you!
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jacky wanted it to be something 'fresh' but also not too overwhelming
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jacky the report function is a bit loaded b/c right now, that's mainly placebo and would ideally go to something I'd host to help keep a index of apps (tbh, I'd love to have it backed by the Wiki so by joining the Wiki, you can help moderate said list _and_ we can get reasons as part of the diff)
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[schmarty] jacky: dang those loading backgrounds are very exciting to me for some reason.
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jacky [schmarty]: right? lol I don't know what it is
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@RoselinBooks Things I love: witchcraft, activity books, and planners. Things "You're Out of this World" has: all of those, plus self-care help! ctrlaltcassie outdid herself with this one. #selfhelp #bookstagram #workbook #activitybook #witchcraft #witchesofinstagram #indiebooks #indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/1383195041695424514)
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[chrisaldrich] BossWitches++ :female_mage::skin-tone-2:🗓
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