#dev 2024-04-03

2024-04-03 UTC
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[jeremycherfas] resists the temptation to ‘splain cuneiform.
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] To be fair, Cally looks _very_ thoughtfully designed, and if you want a one line install, it’s this: `<script type="module" src="https://unpkg.com/cally"></script>`
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] An accessibility statement too! https://wicky.nillia.ms/cally/accessibility/
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] The web would do well to have more projects designed like this.
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capjamesg Yeah. I shared this _because_ it was so thoughtfully designed.
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] (Been looking at rich text editors, and finding one that isn’t huge, complicated or dependent on React is making me sad. Thankfully, found an older project that works better than some of the newer ones!)
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capjamesg [Paul_Robert_Ll] What editor are you using?
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capjamesg Perhaps separately given its complexity, but https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/ looks amazing in terms of feature richness.
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] Landed on https://github.com/Ionaru/easy-markdown-editor which is best if a bad bunch, but open to other suggestions!
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] Got to do some more testing and fit and finish, but hopefully this editor will make Indiekit a much more useful authoring experience than it is currently :crossed_fingers: https://github.com/getindiekit/indiekit/pull/728
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] (This turned out to be my Easter project 😅)
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[qubyte] I use Monaco at work for an internal gist-like tool. It’s a great big lump, but does the job nicely.
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[qubyte] What I love about that tool is that it’s a super basic rails server, and the frontend is just a few vanilla event handlers. No framework nonsense needed.
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[tantek] how does Monaco (or any of these) work on mobile?
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to2ds [jeremycherfas] - Yeah, not sure why cuneiform came to mind :D
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[qubyte] My guess is that Monaco isn’t a good fit for mobile (it’s intended for desktop editing), but I haven’t tried so I can’t say for sure.
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to2ds A mobile friendly rich editor would be cool.
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[tantek] I *think* I finally understand [jeremycherfas]'s 'splain joke. to2ds you wrote "chisel cuneiform into a stone", while cuneiform is traditionally written into clay tablets (not stone) using a sharpened stick to make impressions in the clay, not chiseled.
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[Jan_Tuomi] I use Obsidian (note taking app with good md editing UX) for writing my content. Works on both desktop and mobile but I wouldn’t describe it as very lightweight. I think it’s JS under the hood
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capjamesg Yeah. Monaco is for desktop editing.
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capjamesg The repository says: "Is the editor supported in mobile browsers or mobile web app frameworks? No"
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jeremycherfas tantek++
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to2ds [tantek] - Yeah realized it too late.
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to2ds Guess the only time you'd use a chisel on cuneiform is for redaction?
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jeremycherfas Yeah, if you've left it too long and the tablet has dried out.
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to2ds Interesting that cuneiform bears a slight resemblance to regular expressions 😄
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[tantek] This pleases my astronomy & time nerdiness: https://www.reuters.com/science/white-house-directs-nasa-create-time-standard-moon-2024-04-02/ — speaking of "location", anyone ready to have their blogging software used by astronauts on the moon?
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[tantek] ↩️ Relativistic effects sufficient to be measurable with Performance.now()
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[tantek] > for a person on the moon, an Earth-based clock would appear to lose on average 58.7 microseconds per Earth-day and come with other periodic variations that would further drift moon time from Earth time
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[tantek] LTC will make time math A LOT more challenging
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capjamesg https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2024-03-c2pa-verification-news-journalism-credentials
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sknebel !xkcd DateTime
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sknebel hm
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sknebel https://xkcd.com/2867/
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Loqi [preview] [XKCD] DateTime https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/datetime_2x.png
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[schmarty] uff. GitHub just announced that they'll be phasing out the old (pre-August-2022) "pagesworker" architecture which builds GitHub Pages that cannot, for whatever reason, be built with GitHub Actions (Actions became the default in August 2022). the announcement came via email and i can't find a blog post permalink to add it to the wiki 😒
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[schmarty] GitHub Pages << 2024-04-03 Announced by email "we will be phasing out our legacy pagesworker architecture by the end of June 2024."
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Loqi ok, I added "2024-04-03 Announced by email "we will be phasing out our legacy pagesworker architecture by the end of June 2024."" to the "See Also" section of /GitHub_Pages https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=94493&oldid=80546
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[schmarty] GitHub Pages << ^^ "If your Pages site is being built by the legacy infrastructure, a warning message will be displayed in your Pages settings starting today. Note that the vast majority of pages sites have already been leveraging Actions. We only fall back to the legacy build infrastructure if Actions is unavailable in your repository."
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Loqi ok, I added "^^ "If your Pages site is being built by the legacy infrastructure, a warning message will be displayed in your Pages settings starting today. Note that the vast majority of pages sites have already been leveraging Actions. We only fall back to the legacy build infrastructure if Actions is unavailable in your repository."" to the "See Also" section of /GitHub_Pages https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=94494&oldid=94493
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gRegor Does that make it harder to build Github Pages, like needing to understand Github Actions?
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[schmarty] gRegor: i think not? like they made GH Actions the default in Aug 2022 and seemed to indicate there were only rare cases where they couldn't switch over automatically.
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gRegor That's good, needing to understand GH Actions could be quite a barrier. I only barely understand them, haha
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gRegor [schmarty], fyi, hoping to wrap up some IBC updates next week including the persistent "new" params
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[schmarty] gRegor++ hooray! i ran into that issue just the other day. looking forward to it! indiebookclub++
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[tantek] [Ros] you might find the MDN Curriculum helpful! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/curriculum/
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[KevinMarks] did people see https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2024/04/01/OSQI
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[Joe_Crawford] [tantek] I'm starting to think about an indieweb event popup that would be a CSS clinics. Like office hours / study group / co-op. I suspect there'd be some interest.
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] make it a HTML+CSS clinic and I think you have something. CSS in the abstract is not as helpful IMO
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[Joe_Crawford] A CSS emphasis, perhaps
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[tantek] The key here is to emphasize CSS on top of valid semantic HTML, rather than treating HTML as div-soup like so many frameworks do
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[Joe_Crawford] That sounds the linkage to indieweb concerns. Thanks for that
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[qubyte] That coupling (semantic HTML and CSS) makes for such nice, mostly class-free selections. I don’t do CSS much, but it makes me so happy when I get to noodle on my own site for this reason.
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[Joe_Crawford] [KevinMarks] I'm behind on my blog and mastodon reading but XV certainly underscores fragile aspects of open source in a fresh new way. An oversight org sure seems like something. A standard for governance and security.
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[Joe_Crawford] [KevinMarks] related. https://mastodon.social/@craignewmark/112209029174763319
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[Ros] ↩️ Thank you Tantek!!! This looks *amazing* for what I was asking for.
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