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tantek__
looks like nothing links to "using" and there isn't a /generator page and the existing redir of the using page really is about the "generating application" which meta generator is about sooo ... moving ...
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tantek.com
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[eddie]
!tell tantek, aaronpk Jean MacDonald had a great idea. Essentially having a “sponsor read” for the IndieWeb’s Open Collective in the half-way point of the My Url Is episodes.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie]
It would provide a way for more people to know that’s available, and different episodes I could feature different aspects. One about help maintain public services,
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[eddie]
one about providing support for planning the summit, one for the travel assistance fund, etc.
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aaronpk
oh good idea, maybe for the this-week podcast too!
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[eddie]
My only question is, is the travel assistance fund separate in any way or just part of the same open collective account?
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aaronpk
tho I suspect the audience of the this-week podcast already knows about it so maybe that's not as important
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[eddie]
And is it only for the summit?
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[eddie]
I know there’s been discussion about it in the past, and I think General IWC were trickier about the travel assistance if I remember correctly
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aaronpk
we've always done it as a one-off per event, and only at IWS
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aaronpk
we should talk about how we want to formalize it though since we are about to have actual money for it
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[eddie]
Yeah that makes sense. The more formal it is, the smoother that can all operate
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[eddie]
I’ll not mention the travel assistant in any of the episodes yet until we get closer towards IWS prep season
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[eddie]
I’ll send you guys the first couple of “sponsor reads” for feedback prior to publishing them
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aaronpk
awesome
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[eddie]
The other funny thing is unintentionally it turns out My Url Is’ release cycle is on HWC day
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[eddie]
Haha 😆
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tantek__ i'll write about my CardDAV implementation when i can link to it from lahacker.net proper
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Loqi
tantek__: [eddie] left you a message 2 hours, 9 minutes ago: Jean MacDonald had a great idea. Essentially having a “sponsor read” for the IndieWeb’s Open Collective in the half-way point of the My Url Is episodes.
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jeremycherfas
!tell Eddie I enjoyed 01. If release were the day before you could do a read for HWC at the end. On the day is a bit short notice.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie]
Ohhhh interesting idea jeremycherfas
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Loqi
[eddie]: jeremycherfas left you a message 2 hours, 49 minutes ago: I enjoyed 01. If release were the day before you could do a read for HWC at the end. On the day is a bit short notice.
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@sl007
↩️ @wblau​'s keynote und die Konferenz besprechen die wirklich wichtigsten Probleme. Auch hier kurz skizziert: https://derstandard.at/2000088782030/Wolfgang-Blau-Europas-Chance-ist-maschinelle-Uebersetzung?ref=rss – mein Ziel wäre nun, während der FOSDEM 2019 in Brüssel die EU, W3C seniors, Mozilla, #indieweb grassroots, EFF u.a. zusammenzubringen ! #justdoit
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jeremycherfas
No desire to mess with your #dadtimetable [eddie]
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[eddie]
Haha, the funny thing is I had originally intended to release My Url Is on Tuesdays. Then this last week it seemed like it was gonna be a stretch so I posted it on a Wednesday
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[eddie]
So then I had just decided to stick with Wednesdays. So it could definitely work to move it back to Tuesday’s
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GWG
I think I am leaning towards trying to come to Berlin, I just have to figure out when to arrive/leave.
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[Rose]
You'll have a great time!
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[Rose]
I like to arrive in countries with other timezones as far in advance as I can, jetlag usually hits on day 3 for me
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GWG
I will? How do you know m
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[Rose]
Well, lots of the people going to Berlin will also be going to Nürnberg, and I expect to have a great time so...
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GWG
I have to figure out the logistics. Flights are easy with Aer Lingus
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[Rose]
Berlin has 7 day travel tickets by the way, so they're valid for 7 days from the day of purchase
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GWG
Not sure if I can stay that long
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GWG
If I leave Thursday night, I might come back Monday or Tuesday
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[Rose]
It might still be cheaper to get a 7 day ticket than another, I don't remember off the top of my head
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GWG
I also have to decide how much sightseeing I want to allocate
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[Rose]
It's €7/day for a daily ticket, or €30 for a weekly ticket
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[Rose]
A single ticket is €2,80.
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GWG
Also depends on where I am going
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[Rose]
And that page is available in English, whoops.
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GWG
I don't speak German
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Zegnat
It also depends what sort of sightseeing you want to do. I just walked around the city last I was there, hopping in and out of the tubes to get to places.
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GWG
I know some phrases, but that's it
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[Rose]
German won't be necessary
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Zegnat
There is a really simple public transit app with 0 German requirements if you go that route :)
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GWG
Zegnat, I like to take one of those half day bus rides where you see everything but go nowhere
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[Rose]
If you want to see the Reichstag you could register now, just don't forget your passport
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Zegnat
Aah, hop-on-hop-off I think is one of those bus tours. I did one of those in Copenhagen. They’ll have audio tracks like a museum in multiple languages available.
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GWG
Is it worth seeing?
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[Rose]
I loved the Reichstag
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GWG
Zegnat, when they have an English speaking driver I like to engage with them
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GWG
Ask schmarty about our trip on the 🦆 ⛵.
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Zegnat
That could be problematic ... in my experience even though the drivers get in touch with a lot of tourists, their proficiency in foreign languages tends to be limited...
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GWG
I will survive not engaging
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Zegnat
When I moved to the Netherlands, my busdriver from Germany to Amsterdam hardly spoke anything other than German. And he’d have been transporting tourists every day cross-border :/
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GWG
I am sure my heckling would lose something in the translation
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GWG
I've never been to the Netherlands either
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[Rose]
I love the Netherlands
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GWG
I really should go to Europe more
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[Rose]
Whereabouts do you like GWG?
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Zegnat
So when I tried to relay information about a big traffic accident that would be blocking our route, I was listening to Dutch radio translating to English and having that translated by a German tourist on the bus.
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[Rose]
Ouch, that's tricky Zegnat
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[Rose]
Though I still struggle a lot with Dutch
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GWG
I have trouble picking vacation destinations, so I pick based on Indiewebcamps
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[Rose]
(Understanding is usually fine, speaking not so much)
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GWG
It's worked well in the last two years
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[Rose]
And to correct my question for GWG: Whereabout are you _from_?
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Zegnat
I would instantly know if the German translation was wrong though, as I understand it. I just didn’t trust myself to translate the stuff correctly, as I do not tend to use a lot of traficrelated German :P
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[Rose]
(Multi tasking...)
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GWG
That's how I saw Austin, LA, etc
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Zegnat
Picking based on IWC is great GWG! I had never been to the UK prior to Brighton IWC, haha
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GWG
New York. It still took me 2 hours to get to IWC NYC
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GWG
Zegnat, I would do a UK event
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GWG
Lots of flights I could get on
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[Rose]
I am a fan of that tactic, I pick places based on events happening too - e.g. Seattle in January for PodCon
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sknebel
Gotta bug adactio again about having another Brighton one
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GWG
Rose, if you ever come to one I am attending, tell me. I feel like I know you after your face was up on that big screen for a long time
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[Rose]
New York is advantageous location wise.
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[Rose]
Hahahaha
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Loqi
nice
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[Rose]
I had no idea 😆
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[Rose]
But I will definitely let you knpw.
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GWG
I tried to mention it at one point
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[Rose]
Friday/Saturday might work well next year for me next year in New York
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GWG
That goes for any community members. When aaronpk was in NYC a few months ago for a day unexpectedly, I headed down to see him
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GWG
We forgot photo evidence though
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[Rose]
It's only about 10 hours to New York, direct. I could do a weekend trip
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GWG
That reminds me, I still need to write down the contact for the local University wanting to do HWC from jgmac1106. I forget what he said
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GWG
Rose, change planes in Dublin, you get Immigration Pre Clearance.
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GWG
But I'm biased
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[Rose]
I prefer direct flights generally, and Star Alliances don't fly via Ireland
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[Rose]
As soon as I know when the next IWC NY is I'll see about getting holiday
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[Rose]
Is there a place I can order a tshirt though? 😛
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GWG
Talk to jgmac1106, he's much more successful at networking than I am
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GWG
He probably wants a break before the next one
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[Rose]
Understandable
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GWG
I did very little by comparison
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[Rose]
I can't do anything for a while anyway. Might be nice if it's attached to another event I attend somehow. New York is a good stopover point
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GWG
I have the T-shirt mockup to prove it
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GWG
Well, it's hard to find events I enjoy
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GWG
I tried Wordcamps, but too business oriented
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[Rose]
I have a fair few US trips on my calendar for next year
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[Rose]
I'd like to at least attend HWCs if I can
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Zegnat
“too business oriented” - lots of events are :(
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Zegnat
I have proudly attended HWCs in 3 countries :D Hahaha
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GWG
Zegnat, easier when the countries are so close together
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Zegnat
Oh for sure!
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GWG
We need a...If you like Indiewebcamps, you might like... section
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[Rose]
Seconded
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Zegnat
I should look into possibilities of starting up the Swedish HWC again if I am going to be spending more time in the city
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[Rose]
That would be smart
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sknebel
we already try to cover potentially interesting events on /Events
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sknebel
but of course that has limits, especially when it comes to small events
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[Rose]
I wonder if subsections under events or some kind of filter/tagging system might be useful. E.g. online, Europe, Northern USA, Southern USA, etc.
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sknebel
tricky
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[Rose]
In the wiki it is, yes.
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aaronpk
I want to do that kind of thing wth rags once we start using calagator for events
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aaronpk
tags not rags
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sknebel
we've looked at various other things, but nothing felt right enough to be worth the extra maintenance. been meaning to expand Kaja's abilities too
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[Rose]
That sounds good. I should look at calagator
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aaronpk
calagator has tag pages so you can easily browse events that way too
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GWG
aaronpk, we're going to do that?
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aaronpk
the main instance is http://calagator.org it's just for Portland events
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Loqi
Pacific Northwest Software Quality Conference
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GWG
aaronpk, I just remember us discussing it, but not sure what happened
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aaronpk
There's a few things we need to add to the software before we can use it
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aaronpk
mainly allowing edits only by logged in users
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GWG
Any movement?
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aaronpk
Not in a while
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GWG
Oh well
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[jgmac1106]
we will do another NYC for sure, but @gwg is right we will make sure it won't be same time President is in lower Manhattan, reeked havoc on travel and security
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[Rose]
Good to know, thanks [jgmac1106]!
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[Rose]
I haven't been to NYC since I was 8, so I'll be scouring the wiki page for recommendations.
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GWG
We can help with that
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GWG
jgmac1106 and I still have to plan a Tenement Museum run
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tantek__
[jgmac1106]: the subways were fine during IWC NYC
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tantek__
and AFAIK the security issues had nothing to with timing, but rather untrained staff
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[jgmac1106]
I got a couple emails people saying they weren't coming due to the announced travel advisory...but yeah the security at Pace had to cost us a dozen or so people
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tantek__
also makes me wonder if we should start charging a minimal amount to increase attendance
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tantek__
like we do / did for IWS
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tantek__
[jgmac1106]: what are the popular tech meetups in NYC, even just for an evening, and do they charge?
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[jgmac1106]
yeah $10 tix maybe good gate keeper
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[jgmac1106]
not sure, don't know the scene
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tantek__
[jgmac1106]: even $5 might be enough for an IWC. I think we do $10 for IWS
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[Rose]
I'd be willing to buy a ticket.
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[Rose]
And it would contribute towards costs a little perhaps. Something like Eventbrite could even be used as marketing as well as for ticket sales.
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[jgmac1106]
sweet landed a speaking gig at Moz Berlin day before IWC, now to raise the travel funds from Provost and Dean's office. Pieces coming together
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[Rose]
Nice!
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GWG
I need to look into accommodations
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[jgmac1106]
@gwg if you aren't bunking with [schmarty] and I get funding I will happily room with you again
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GWG
He already arranged accommodations
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GWG
I will post once I get the plane tickets
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GWG
I still need to figure out which days
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dougbeal
Rose: HWC Seattle should happen wednesday before PodCon. Though thats crunch time for Foolscap Prep (Feb 1-3)
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[Rose]
Wednesday before... I could swing that
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Loqi
manton has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (61 in all channels)
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[manton]
I'm moving forward with planning for IndieWebCamp Austin 2019. The 3 weekends that seem the most promising so far are Jan 12-13, Feb 9-10, and Feb 23-24.
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[manton]
If anyone thinks they can attend, add your name here: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Austin
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[manton]
So that we can get closer to picking a good date.
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aaronpk
Ooh awesome I will take a look at my calendar
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GWG
[manton]: Sounds fun
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gRegorLove
voted on those three. Most of the others I'm flexible on currently.
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gRegorLove
Haven't been to Austin in a while; will be nice to visit.
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[manton]
Cool, thanks! Would be great to have you in town.
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@manton2
I learned a lot helping organize IndieWebCamp Austin last year. We’re doing it again in early 2019. Planning is underway now with possible dates on the wiki. https://indieweb.org/Planning#Austin
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Zegnat
gRegorLove, anything we can do to get you to IWC Berlin?
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gRegorLove
Not this year, but maybe next year
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gRegorLove
I'd never really considered traveling that far for an IWC before, but it would be fun :)
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Zegnat
Not going to blame you. I have no idea what needs to happen for me to seriously consider a US one!
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@mrwiblog
#testing just trying something out, part of my #IndieWeb intentions...
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tantek__
looks like I should post an indie event for MV!
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@jgmac1106
@kunez5 you may want to try the Knownchat on IRC or https://chat.indieweb.org I saw this error before with someone and they had overwritten their config.ini file. Not sure if that helps. (https://jgregorymcverry.com/7754-2/)
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@edtechdev
↩️ @OnlineCrsLady More motivation for me to get my own site up :) #indieweb
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[kevinmarks]
Tantek, invite Maf, he came to an earlier south bay HWC
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@edtechdev
↩️ Well, folks like you make everyone else feel connected & at home no matter what social network you're using, including the Canvas community site. I want to start publishing on my own site(s) though as a backup: https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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